Yeah, but the juror is still a punk.
Based on the info here I didn't even find the juror to be a punk. He apologized, then explained why he yawned. The judge didn't like it, and instead of lecturing the guy, he finds him in contempt? That's the definition of "punk" and "judicial arrogance" to me.
lol
What did he expect? The Dancing Itos.
How much to call the judge an a-hole?
I bet this judge is of the type who let pedophiles walk.
Give me a break.
He deserves to be fined for that stupid reply
I ok with this. A court is somewhat a church and we should strive not to disrupt the proceedings. We don't know the facts, but if the guy made an attention getting 10th grade English class "Who-the-f*** cares about Chaucer?" yawn, I see the judge's point.
While yawning is an involuntary reflex action, anyone can yawn silently and mask the yawn with a hand. Sounds to me like this person did not do that. He yawned audibly and apparently loudly enough to indicate his boredom, which he confirmed on being questioned by the judge.
The fine seems a bit large to me, but I wasn't there.
I note that a lot of Freepers in these threads whine about doing jury duty. Some even brag about being willing and able to skip it.
That's just wrong, and is one of the reasons that we have such lousy juries seated in many trials. Whenever I have been called to jury duty, I've always shown up. I've been on a couple of juries.
Here's the deal. If you're not willing to do jury duty, then you deserve a lousy jury if you ever face one. Anyone can find themselves being judged by a jury in a criminal or civil action.
If you expect to have a decent jury in your case, then you'd better be willing to serve on a jury in other cases. It's just common sense.
I am from Ca, and all I can say is only in L.A * shaking my head*
Note to self: File under things never to say to a judge.
So now we know what happens if we yawn in court, what about farting in court?
So now we know what happens if we yawn in court, what about farting in court?
This is one of those instances where reading the story does not provide enough information. I've known plenty of people who could say "I'm bored" completely innocently, yet I've known others who would say it and be incredibly snide and patronizing. It's the tone of voice that matters here, and the story does not capture that.
I think the current juror system is ridiculous. the constitution did not set it up this way so it can be changed easily.
I suggest we let people volunteer or apply to be jurors. We could even offer a living wage for a 3 or 6 month term of service.
Then out of this pool you are selected randomly for a trial.
I think the present system where they have jury 'selection' is utterly ridiculous and a waste of court time. AND I think it goes AGAINST the constitution, as people are 'selected' for a jury based on whether you believe they will form a bias in your favor- the opposite of what is intended by the constitution.
I am also in favor of 'sentence multiplier rule' whenever you are arrested and convicted of ANYTHING your sentece will be the minimum for that crime TIMES the number of times you have been convicted. (I think this is better then '3 strikes' where you can go to jail for life even if the third crime is only minor)
The funny thing about the word yawn. If you say it out loud it makes you yawn.
I agree with the judge. This punk deserved it for his disruption. The punk has an attitude problem, where if things are not going his way and he gets bored, then he makes sure everyone around him knows about it. I remember someone who would do the same thing as this jerk, yawn as loud as he could to get attention. The jerk got what he deserved. Hooray for this judge!
Seems to be that the Judge is just begging someone to be comtemptuous.
Right now I hold all courts in Amerika to be contemptible until proven otherwise.
Judges are the real punks.
What was more disruptive to the proceedings in the court... the juror's yawn or the Judge making a contemptable offense out of it?
"Yeah, but the juror is still a punk."
Yeah, but not as much of a punk as the judge.
Maybe a punk, but that pissy little judge might have gotten a good ole FU from a lot of folks.