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Spontaneous ignition discovery has ORNL [Oak Ridge] researcher fired up
Oak Ridge National Laboratory ^ | 19 April 2005 | Ron Walli

Posted on 04/19/2005 7:37:07 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

Zhiyu Hu believes it is possible to match nature's highly efficient method to convert chemicals into thermal energy at room temperature, and he has data and a published paper to support his theory.

In a paper scheduled to appear in the May 18 print issue of the American Chemical Society's Energy & Fuels, Oak Ridge National Laboratory's Hu describes a novel method to achieve spontaneous ignition and sustained combustion at room temperature. He achieves this "nano-catalytic reaction" with nothing but nanometer-sized particles of platinum stuck to fibers of glass wool in a small jar with methanol and air – with no source of external ignition.

Although this began as little more than a curiosity, Hu quickly realized that the implications could be significant because of the potential gains in energy conversion and utilization. Hu now cites possibilities in the area of distributed power generation and perhaps military and homeland defense.

While additional research needs to be performed to understand the phenomena, Hu notes that natural organisms such as microbes, plants and animals obtain energy from oxidation of the same organic chemicals at their physiological, or body, temperatures. Many of these biological reactions also use metals as part of their enzyme catalysts. Still, this is a surprising result in the field of metal catalysis.

"Since the caveman days, we have burned things to utilize their energy, and the high temperatures and the entire process have created a lot of problems that we're then forced to deal with," said Hu, a physicist in the Life Sciences Division of the Department of Energy's ORNL.

Citing the wisdom of one of the all-time great scientists, Hu noted that Albert Einstein once said, "Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." So, according to Hu, the best way to solve the energy crisis is to replace our existing fuel consuming method with one that has much higher efficiency and less environmental impact.

Indeed, there is room for efficiency improvement, Hu said, noting that an internal combustion engine is only about 21 percent efficient. The process also creates environmental concerns because of nitrogen oxide emissions that form because of the high combustion temperatures. Even an advanced fuel cell is only about 50 percent efficient, and it must be operated at a temperature that is much higher than our body or room temperature, which requires costly components able to withstand harsh conditions.

"What we have is the possibility of retrieving energy at a lower temperature with greater efficiency and lower environmental effects," Hu said.

The method outlined in the paper "Nano-catalytic spontaneous ignition and self-supporting room-temperature combustion," co-written by ORNL's Vassil Boiadjiev and Thomas Thundat, was discovered unintentionally. Hu was actually conducting another experiment with platinum particles, methanol and cotton swabs when he noticed the mixture produced smoke. He consulted with Thundat and others who encouraged him to figure out what was happening.

"This wasn't research that was funded, so I worked evenings and weekends to try to understand why and how this happened," Hu said. He replicated the discovery numerous times under different conditions and noticed that the reactions can reach high temperatures of greater than 600 degrees Celsius and low temperatures of just a few tenths of a degree above room temperature.

Hu also learned that he can control the reaction by varying the fuel-air mixture, and he discovered that the process can be dramatically changed by reducing the particle size and changing the particle's morphology, or shape.

Oak Ridge National Laboratory is managed by UT-Battelle for the Department of Energy.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; energy; environment; fission; fusion
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This could be big. (But why does it remind me of cold fusion?)
1 posted on 04/19/2005 7:37:09 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
Science Ping! An elite subset of the Evolution list.
See list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail to be added/dropped.

2 posted on 04/19/2005 7:38:17 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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He achieves this "nano-catalytic reaction" with nothing but nanometer-sized particles of platinum stuck to fibers of glass wool in a small jar with methanol and air

Why can't these things use materials a little more common like silicon or carbon?

3 posted on 04/19/2005 7:45:21 PM PDT by fso301
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To: PatrickHenry
Get your platinum. get your fabulous platinum here!


Gold! I mean, PLATINUM!

4 posted on 04/19/2005 7:45:31 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: PatrickHenry

The Spinal Tap drummer did thie years ago...


5 posted on 04/19/2005 7:45:48 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: neverdem


6 posted on 04/19/2005 7:47:50 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: PatrickHenry

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7 posted on 04/19/2005 7:47:58 PM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: PatrickHenry

bump


8 posted on 04/19/2005 7:48:20 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (The murder of Terri Schindler Schiavo - NOT IN OUR NAME)
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To: PatrickHenry

I had the same thought at first. This does sound interesting.

While it is cutting edge science, it sounds like a simple process (well compared to some other means of producing energy).

I like simple solutions. Let's hope Hu is on to something.


9 posted on 04/19/2005 7:51:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I hope this guy doesn't lose his laptop.


10 posted on 04/19/2005 7:51:47 PM PDT by TBall
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To: PatrickHenry
Hu now cites possibilities in the area of distributed power generation and perhaps military and homeland defense.

Hell, Hu could get grants from just about every government agency now in existence. Whoooopeeee! His future is assured.

11 posted on 04/19/2005 7:54:33 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: All
For those wondering "Who is Hu?": Dr. Zhiyu Hu.
12 posted on 04/19/2005 7:55:05 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

ping


13 posted on 04/19/2005 7:55:47 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: PatrickHenry

Doctor Who?


14 posted on 04/19/2005 7:58:22 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: PatrickHenry

Coincidental that you should post that article at this time.

Just a couple of nights ago, I was personally thinking through the Nano-catalytic spontaneous ignition problem.

I was just on the verge of solving nano-catalytic spontaneous ignition when I noticed that I needed another beer from the refrigerator, and when I returned, ESPN was doing another chart on the NFL draft.

I got all wrapped up in the draft pick charts, and spent the rest of the evening wondering if the first pick is that QB from Utah, or the running back from Auburn.

...and so went my nano-catalytic discovery efforts.


15 posted on 04/19/2005 7:58:54 PM PDT by Rhetorical pi2
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To: PatrickHenry

I want to see it replicated before I get excited. However, if it can be replicated, it may be the answer our dependence on foreign fuel sources.


16 posted on 04/19/2005 7:59:55 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; farmfriend


17 posted on 04/19/2005 8:06:54 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: PatrickHenry
Could be interesting, but I have to ask: if the "burning mix" doesn't get all that hot, how is the energy released? I suspect that however much energy you release, right now it's still mostly heat.

Yes, in the body all kinds of crazy cellular processes are powered at low temps including muscle contractions. We have evolved the engine to run around the low-heat reactions.

Ziyu Hu or someone will have to design the engines to run on a low-heat basis and crank out mechanical or electrical power.

18 posted on 04/19/2005 8:07:05 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry

19 posted on 04/19/2005 8:09:06 PM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: Rhetorical pi2
OMG...You too?
I think I was doing the very same thing at the very same time!... but, like yourself, the irresistable urge for uno mass cervasas, caused me to lose my train of thought, I think.
20 posted on 04/19/2005 8:11:20 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Freedom is not America's gift to man, Freedom is GOD'S gift to mankind!....G.W.Bush)
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