Nun silenced by new pope unhappy with choice

MSNBC.com ^ | 4/19/05 | Associated Press

[Evolution]

HYATTSVILLE, Md. - A nun who was ordered by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger to stop ministering to gays and lesbians called his election as pope "devastating" for those who believe the Catholic Church needs to be more tolerant on social issues such as homosexuality. advertisement Sister Jeannine Gramick said the choice of Ratzinger, who as the Vatican's guardian of doctrine silenced her and Father Robert Nugent in a 1999 order, will likely prevent the church from "moving into the 21st century and out of the Middle Ages." "

[onyx]

I have tried all day not to gloat, only to give thanks,
but the meltdown is making it impossible. Seems like
every complaint is followed by an even funnier one.
Words like "devastating" and "dark ages" ...lol... when
in fact, what these people want is an "anything goes" doctrine;
one that reinforces their own particular bent, however perverse or sinful.

[Antoninus]

I am sure the old fart will continue to sit back like PJP and say nothing while hundreds of his gay priests molest little boys, yet speak out against reaching out to those who perhaps need it the most. What a terrible decision the Catholic Church has made today.

Do you know that this Sr. Grammick is perhaps the BIGGEST supporter of the king of pedophile priests, Paul Shanley? If she's not happy, it's a good thing.

Think before posting, please, or you end up looking really stupid.

[conserv13]

Thank you, that is a great explanation.

I always thought of myself as very anti-Catholic (I went to Jesuit school for 10 years - so I know a LOT about Catholicism and have turned away from it.

You are correct, men are imperfect.

I guess like anything else, love the sinner but hate the sin, I can love the Church and the teachings but hate the corruption and hypocrisy of the men leading it.

[Miss Behave]

[Sister Jeannine Gramick]

"Hey, Sister. They didn't join you, YOU joined them!"

Bump!

[Antoninus]

What if he has urges but does not act on them?

If I have the urge to kill you, but don't act on it, does that make me a murderer?

[ArrogantBustard]

"Urges" ... you mean "temptations to sin".

I respect anyone who suffers severe (or even minor) temptations to sin, and by the Grace of God overcomes those temptations.

In this particular case, I would say "not a poofter". Poofter is defined by deviant sexual practices ... that is, by flagrantly wallowing in the sin rather than resisting the temptation.

[conserv13]

If I have the urge to kill you, but don't act on it, does that make me a murderer?

That is different.

I am sexually attracted to women. In high school, even though I had not slept with any women yet, I was still heterosexual.

[LSUsoph]

the only one looking stupid around here is you my friend, my post had nothing to do with that woman. Whether she is thrilled with the decision or not is not the issue or important to me.

[kstewskis]

Words like "devastating" and "dark ages" ...lol... when in fact, what these people want is an "anything goes" doctrine; one that reinforces their own particular bent, however perverse or sinful.

Pathetic, isn't it?

I look and pity at them, as being the mouth-pieces of this character, or a facilmilie thereof:

I think of the end of the movie, when this character was defeated at Calvary, and the scream it emitted.

Kind of like what the libs are screeching now!

[lolhelp]

You must not be a Catholic or you would not have to ask your question.

[Antoninus]

You said: I am sure the old fart will continue to sit back like PJP and say nothing while hundreds of his gay priests molest little boys, yet speak out against reaching out to those who perhaps need it the most. What a terrible decision the Catholic Church has made today.

My point was that Cardinal Ratzinger put the smack-down on this "nun" who is a quintessential pedophile/homosexual priest defender. This argues directly against your point that as Benedict XVI, he will do nothing about this problem. You chose to post to this thread which is about Sr. Gramick. I can hardly be faulted for trying to stay on the topic of the thread, can I?

I guess they don't teach reading comprehension at LSU, eh?

[onyx]

LOL! I think you captured it...lol.

Go check out Kerry's idiocy: it's deplorable.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1386902/posts?page=1#1

[Antoninus]

That is different. I am sexually attracted to women.

So? Is sexual attraction your complete identity? I assume you are attracted to women other than your wife on occassion? What keeps you from acting on those urges?

[dangus]

Between 1981 and 1994, the prevalence of pedophile priests dropped 97%, before the news media caught wind of the slightest traces of scandal.

I have no idea as to how much of that can be credited to JP2, but to say nothing was done is pure ignorance.

[Ruth A.]

If she can't reconcile herself to the Church she could always leave and get a job providing services to the homosexual community.

[dangus]

>> The Pope was a king a military ruler up until the 1800s. <<

Technically, he still is as much of a "king" as he ever was. The Papal states just shrank a lot. But they were never anything to sneeze at.

>> Priests and Popes used to be able to get married. <<

The last married Pope was Peter.

[dangus]

Edith?

[LSUsoph]

Him putting the "smack down" on her had NOTHING to do with her support of pedophiles, but instead because she chose to reach out to homosexuals (whether you want to believe it or not are just as much Gods children as you are).

You are quite accustational for having such idiotic points and logic.

[conserv13]

To quote Jesus (or rather Matthew): "You have heard it said 'Do not commit adultery' but I say, everyone who looks at a woman and lusts after her has already committed adultery in his heart".

Matt 5:27-28

[LSUsoph]

to refer to it as "the slightest traces of scandal" is pure ignorance.