Posted on 04/17/2005 6:08:36 PM PDT by fso301
Didn't see where another thread existed
Last week on KSFO Jayna Davis said that Congressman Dana Rohrabacher called her and said that he'd read her book "The Third Terrorist" and wants to hold hearings. She expects that the hearings will be this summer.
(No surprise that Sen. Spector reneged on the same promise years ago.)
Hundreds of Americans suffered abuse, ridicule, and even threats of violence for years but they finally got serious investigations of Ruby Ridge and Waco. Serious is a relative term, serious compared to the original Congressional "hearings."
It's time for OKC.
Most apolitical folks probably still believe that two "white supremacist ditto heads" did it. If nothing else we should expect the hearings to clear Rush Limbaugh. At least that would be something.
Records show that from March 26, 1995 -- after Marife was in the U.S. -- until April 21 when Nichols turned himself in at the Herington Police Department, the card was used to contact the boarding house, the Starglad International Lumber Co. in the Philippines and a Filipino by the name of Naneth D. Jaraive on at least 14 occasions. For what purpose?
Dana Rohrbacher is going to let it rip tomorrow night in the House. Let's see how serious people are at getting the truth. Jayna has this nailed.
Jayna Davis would not participate in the History Channel. She saw it as a whitewash.
For several years they sang his song…he was a hero to their cause
In denial many lived…he placed himself up above the laws
He knew all of the right things to say…down through…hell and then back believers would go
In eight long years he's done to us…more damage than you know
For his neglect we would finally pay the price…the count's three thousand dead
We know just where to place the blame…it is on Bill Clinton's head
When the Cole was hit and brave men died…there is no doubt that he hadn't cried
He looked at his polls and sighed
Now this is the end…this is the end…of his legacy
At OKC he saw his chance…he needed to divide us all
He would create the vast right wing…and his mind-numbed fools would pick up the ball
So we'd fight among ourselves…and the…grand scheme had worked, he got his way
With our attention diverted he…would gut the CIA
For his neglect we would pay the price…the count's three thousand dead
We know just where to place the blame…it is on Bill Clinton's head
When the Cole was hit and brave men died…there is no doubt that he hadn't cried
He looked at his polls and sighed
Now this is the end…this is the end…of his legacy
We endured a psychopath…who saw himself as the Rockstar Prez
We had sent the warnings out…watch what this man does, not what he says
For neglect we paid the price…when those great buildings fell with many dead
And we know just where to place the blame…it's on Bill Clinton's head
When the Cole was hit and brave men died…there is no doubt that he hadn't cried
He looked at his polls and sighed
Now this is the end…this is the end…of his legacy
Unfortunately I do -- heard too many speeches at the OK GOP Convention referencing Gov Keating and how much he was missed.
Believe J.C. is close to announcing for the race for Governor -- his speech was awesome and so was Senator Allen's on Saturday morning.
Great weekend and great speeches and it was an off-year election.
I never watch/listen to her. Her voice sounds like a... sorta male type of female. (snicker)
As a layman not too involved in this issue on all the theories I felt the History Channel presentation presented a digestable amount of the info at question in a one hour period.
She has OKC nailed. It is only a matter of time.
Rita Cosby is certainly beautiful. I'm a sober minded man, but I could get kinda dizzy around that woman. All due respect, of course.
who is she again, anyway?
Jayna was the first reporter on the scene. She has incredible documentation, much of which you can read about in her book, THE THIRD TERRORIST.
I did a quick look at her website - she does not provide a quick summation of of her theory and I won't buy the book.
Thanks for the thread. From reading all of it, I guess I didn't miss much. But then again, I did not have great expectations.
The Story
At 9:02am on April 19th, 1995 terrorist strike America's heartland.
A body of compelling evidence proves that
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols did not act alone.
[Jayna's bio ~ Interview with Jayna]
CONSPIRACY: The Oklahoma City
September 11th Connection
Philadelphia Daily News
October 2, 2002
By Michael Smerconish
mas@mastalk.com
When the Murrah bombing occurred at 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, Davis was a reporter for the NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City. She was among the first journalists to broadcast that an enormous truck bomb had rocked the heartland, killing 168 and injuring hundreds.
In the immediate aftermath of the explosion, the FBI launched an international pursuit of several Middle Eastern-looking men seen fleeing the Murrah Building in a brown Chevy pickup right before the blast. Without explanation, that all-points bulletin was later canceled. Two days later, Timothy McVeigh was a household name. So was Terry Nichols.
And that's where most of us left the tale. Stunned, but convinced that two Army buddies, homegrown terrorists, acted alone.
Thankfully, Davis didn't close this book as quickly as most of us did. She pursued the APB and set off to track reports of multiple sightings of McVeigh with an elusive dark-haired accomplice. The infamous sketch of John Doe No. 2 was always tucked firmly in her grip.
Davis soon uncovered that several employees at an Oklahoma City property-management company said they had seen a brown Chevy truck like the getaway vehicle aggressively pursued by law enforcement parked outside their office in the days before the bombing. The company's owner was a Palestinian with a rap sheet and suspected ties to the PLO.
Davis learned that, six months before the bombing, the Palestinian hired a handful of ex-Iraqi soldiers to do maintenance at his rental houses. Eyewitnesses told Davis that they celebrated the bombing.
She was also made aware that these same men were absent from work on April 17, 1995, the day McVeigh rented the Ryder truck that carried the bomb.
While pursuing the story of these Middle Eastern men, Davis also became aware of another ex-Iraqi soldier in Oklahoma City named Hussain Hashem Al-Hussaini. She was taken aback to see that Al-Hussaini's picture, when overlaid with the government sketch of John Doe No. 2, was arguably a perfect match. He even sported a tattoo on his upper left arm indicating that he likely had served in Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard.
Davis then set about looking for a connection to McVeigh, Nichols, Al-Hussaini and other Iraqis. It came when a colleague located two eyewitnesses who claimed to have independently seen Al-Hussaini drinking beer with McVeigh in an Oklahoma City nightclub just four days before the bombing.
This convinced her station to run with the Iraqi-connection story. It was met with some controversy.
The Justice Department responded that the identification of John Doe No. 2 was merely a case of mistaken identity. Al-Hussaini contacted local reporters, claiming to be falsely accused. Davis did not back off because she believed she could repudiate Al-Hussaini's alibi.
AND SHE LOCATED two dozen witnesses who identified eight specific Middle Eastern men, the majority of whom were ex-Iraqi soldiers, who were seen with McVeigh and Nichols. Two witnesses named Al-Hussaini as the dark-haired, olive-skinned man they observed one block from the Murrah Building just before daybreak on the day of the blast.
She also uncovered evidence that implicated several of Al-Hussaini's co-workers. One of these men was identified as sitting in the driver's seat of a Chevy pickup at an Oklahoma City apartment complex hours before the truck was abandoned on the lot and towed to the FBI command post. According to police records, the truck had been stripped of its vehicle identification numbers and identifying body molding.
The story gathered steam. Here, it would appear, was the deserted pickup that was the same vehicle that was seen speeding away from the vicinity of the Murrah building with two Arab-looking occupants.
And there was more. Five witnesses independently fingered several of Al-Hussaini's associates as frequent visitors to an Oklahoma City motel in the months, days, and hours leading up to 9:02 a.m. on April 19. On numerous occasions, the subjects were seen in the company of McVeigh, and during a few instances, associating with Nichols - at the same motel!
Davis spoke to the motel owner and a maintenance worker who said the men came within feet of a large Ryder truck parked on the west side of the parking lot at 7:40 a.m. on April 19. An unexplained odor of diesel fuel emanated from the rear carriage. Minutes later, McVeigh entered the motel office and returned the room key. The motel owner then saw McVeigh drive off the lot with a man identified as Al-Hussaini.
To this day, the Justice Department has refused to return the original registration logs for the motel.
Davis has 80 pages of affidavits and 2,000 supporting documents, and they suggest not only an Iraqi connection to the Murrah bombing, but also to the attacks against the Twin Towers.
For example, Nichols was a man of modest means. Yet he traveled frequently to the Philippines. Davis discovered that Nichols was there, in Cebu City in December 1994, at the same time as the convicted mastermind of the first World Trade Center attack, Ramzi Yousef.
She has also found evidence that Islamic terrorists boasted of having recruited two "lily whites" for terrorism.
Al-Hussaini had a very American response to Davis' investigation. He sued for defamation. In a ruling on Nov. 17, 1999, federal Judge Timothy Leonard dismissed the case.
In 1995, the federal grand jury proclaimed in the official indictment that McVeigh and Nichols acted with "others unknown." And several members of the Denver juries who convicted the two said publicly that they thought they had help.
Since 1997, Davis has repeatedly tried to interest the FBI in her investigation. She has been rebuffed.
As for Al-Hussaini, after leaving Oklahoma City, he went on to work at Boston's Logan International Airport, the point of origin for several for the 9/11 hijackers, including Mohammad Atta.
One more thing. That motel where McVeigh, Nichols and Al-Hussaini were seen together was later visited (pre-9/11) by Atta, Zacharias Moussaouy and Marwan Al-Shehi.
I was astonished at the speed at which McVeigh was executed after his conviction. It seemed as if the Clinton administration really wanted to do away with him as quickly as possible.
Rita Cosby remains me of Art Bell. A Space Cowboy and a Company man.
So she blames Saddam?
Not necessarily. But she does blame Iraqi nationals, former Iraqi military, who still have a terror cell in the city.
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