Posted on 04/17/2005 12:09:59 PM PDT by wagglebee
Bombshell new evidence ignored by the FBI suggests a link between the Oklahoma City bombing and the man who masterminded the first World Trade Center bombing and who later drew up the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks, Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby is set to report Sunday night.
"It's amazing to me that not more has been made of those phone records,” Oklahoma City attorney Michael Johnston tells Cosby, for her tenth anniversary special on the 1995 attack. The explosive new evidence shows that OKC bombing co-conspirator Terry Nichols repeatedly called a boarding house in [the Philippines'] Cebu City, an establishment that has been linked to al Qaida Twin Tower bomber Ramzi Yousef.
The same kind of ANFO fertilizer fuel bomb was used in that attack and the one two years later that destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah building.
Additional phone records dismissed by earlier investigations show that repeated calls were made from Terry Nichols' home to a place called Star Glad Lumber in the Philippines.
"Star Glad Lumber is operated by a man whose brother and cousin were both notorious terrorists, splinter groups of the Abu Sayyaf terror group in the Philippines,” Johnston tells Cosby.
After Yousef's Philippine bomb factory was uncovered in February 1995, Philippine police discovered three versions of the 9/11 plot on his laptop computer.
In one formulation, Yousef intended to plant bombs on 12 U.S. airliners flying over the Pacific, with each bomb to be detonated simultaneously.
A second variation involved bombing planes over U.S. territory.
A third version of the plans discovered on Yousef's computer envisioned hijacking multiple airliners in the U.S. and crashing them into national landmarks. The World Trade Center and Pentagon were mentioned specifically.
Investigators say that after his capture, Yousef's uncle, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, took the plans and presented them to Osama bin Laden, who decided in finance the third version.
Cosby's special report will also delve into claims made by Yousef's al Qaida partner in the Philippines, Abdul Hakim Murad - who was captured on the spot after Yousef fled.
On the morning of April 19, 1995 - the day of the OKC blast - Murad reportedly told a guard at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City where he was being held that he and Yousef were behind the attack.
Reporting for Insight Magazine in 2002, investigative journalist Kenneth Timmerman detailed the episode:
"Lt. Philip Rojas, a prison guard, asked Murad what he thought [about the blast] and found his response so startling that he informed his superiors. They, in turn, called the FBI.
"Special Agents Francis J. Pellegrino and Brian G. Parr arrived later that morning, within hours after the Oklahoma City blast. 'Murad responded to the guard's question by stating that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing,' they reported in a witness report. 'A short time later, Murad passed a note to the guard, again claiming that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing in Oklahoma City.'"
Timmerman said that the "Liberation Army" was a fictitious organization used as a code by Yousef, and other al Qaida members "whenever they are making announcements" of responsibility for terrorist attacks.
Tune in to the Fox News Channel, Sunday, 9 p.m. ET, for Rita Cosby's special report: "The Oklahoma City Bombing: Unanswered Questions."
I have read different accounts of this; one report indicated that the truck was a National Car rental from DFW airport. Another account said that the license number on the brown Chevy truck was traced to a Chevy Cavalier rental car from DFW. One possibility is that the ME guys arrived at DFW, rented a Chevy Cavalier, and drove to OKC. They then used the plates from the rental car on the Chevy pickup then switched them back to the Cavalier and drove back to DFW for their return flight.
If Bush would have been in office when this happened, things would have been handled way differently. McVeigh was only the tip of the iceberg. Not one person could have pulled that off.
If the Clintonistas hadn't been so determined to blame absolutely everything on an imaginary "vast right wing conspiracy," they would have launched an actual investigation. Instead, they went out of there way to make certain that McVeigh was silenced as quickly as possible.
I don't think it is an example of incompetence. It is rather evidence that clintoon didn't have the guts to face terrorism as a world war level issue so he ordered the trail to be dusted and Nichols/McVey to be the end of the issue. There are other examples of similar suspicious dusting to end the links ... plane shot down over Atlantic are near New York, plane that ... oh never mind, folks will just accuse me of taking off my tinfoil beenie.
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I thought it was more than just strange. And it certainly has affected my opinion of both Ashcroft and Bush.
I'm beginning to question the attitude towards the FBI and CIA. During a Republican Presidency they are always the "bad" guys. The media never says it but the look or the tone implies. After the 'Rather exposure' - with the msm and dems hate of anything and anyone Republican - I wonder how much we have heard was the truth. President Nixon for one!!!
Isn't the FBI only as good as their leader. Doesn't a leader controls what can or can't happen. Such as the OKC Bombing and Flight 800 tragedy and the destroying of evidence and falsifying of evidence.
Where'd you get that idea? Al Qaeda's not out there looking to convert us. They are looking to cripple the USA and UK and an ssortment of other govenments they consider to be annoying [many of them coincidentally the ones that annoyed Saddam Hussein, too]- and they go about killing people who annoy them too. That does not require them to convert us to their views, nor does it require them to advertise their successes. They need advertise only minor actions to gain recruits, and they can do that with the occasional head-lopping of some 'fearsome' enemy of Islam like a truckdriver or Iraqi barber, all of which makes Islamic radicals feel more macho and gives them the illusion of being empowered. Al Qaeda is notorious for NOT taking credit for what they do. In the past they've used fabricated names on occasion, but they have not felt compelled to advertise in ways other terrorist groups have done. They typically do not call up the FBI and announce "Dear feebies : Al Qaeda did it! Sincerely, bin Laden."
They lack the means to force people into accepting their beliefs.
they're not interested in forcing us to accept their beliefs- they are content to try to kill those who don't.
Like the Soviets would do when they invaded countries and instituted communism.
The Soviets were looking to hold territory, and so they had to try that. Al Qaeda is looking to get rid of us- a much easier task than converting people, though they still underestimated how formidable a task that would be since Bin Laden based the idea on how quickly the US curled its tail up under itself in the past in Beirut, Somalia, etc and didn't consider that there would be a different reaction from a different administration.
So they blow up a building or plane here and there. Which in and of itself isnt going to do much of anything to bring a country to its knees. Especially one as powerful as ours.
Knocking down a few buildings, putting a smoking hole in another, and scuffing up a Pennsylvania field ended up wreaking havoc on the stock market, the airline industry, the aviation industry as a whole, travel and tourism, the oil market, insurance companies, etc- it walloped the snot out of us economically. It also resulted in some things al Qaeda didn't expect- namely that they'd get their butts kicked from country to country all across the world, lose their training camps, lose their Taliban territory, get one of their financial backers removed from power, get two countries liberated, and expose Qadeer Khan's proliferation efforts- but still, for almost no cost one organization of Islamic nutbags did give us one heck of a black eye.
If they had been able to pull off the west coast attacks, too, the economic damage to would have been exponentially worse. And if their assassintion plans for the US had worked like they did on Massoud in afghanistan, it's hard to say how much damage that would do to our ability to form and lead a coalition requiring global resources and ports to sustain.
If they had had any other administration, they may have succeeded far more. The reaction may not have lead to war and regime change in the ME but instead, only to a criminal investigation, etc.
The Master of the ship is a good place to start.
Start adding the list of Clinton aid to the enemy here.:
Used OK City to vilify any conservative, especially the NRA, the Militias, Church Groups, and anyone concerned about the slaughter at Waco. Vehemently denied any Middle Eastern Connection.
Refused to either accept custody of Bin Laden or information concrning AQ when offered by the Sudanese.
He or his minions squelched any talk of terrorism in Flight 800 and other aircraft incidents, to the point of jailing independant investigators.
Two embassies, the Khobar Towers, and the list goes on.
MY ONLY QUESTION: HOW MUCH DID THEY PAY HIM???
The New American had Nichols' Philipine ties pegged within a couple of months of the Bombing. Follow up articles detailed all sorts of flaws with the investigation. The MSM wrote it off as JBS ranting, but it has all proven correct.
I'm not sure it was even a question of guts. He had staffed agencies with cronies to the point that their efficacy was hampered, and had hordes of aides and staffers who never even got the appropriate clearances and background checks to be in the building.
He had, as a result (with the help of dame Hillary)thoroughly alienated the selfsame competent people he would need to prosecute any war on terror. I guess he didn't understand that the real professionals would have done their jobs if they had been allowed to.
Besides, terrorism, a war? What a real downer at the big party, maaaan...
It's Monday morning does anyone know if Fox actually had this on or is this another NewsMax exclusive?
'Way back when', there was some FR discussion, that the the FBI rot also included daddy Bush.
Does anyone remember if the FReepers proved/disproved that idea???
That has never been his style. Recall that they did not claim credit for 9/11 either. I think that is one thing that is unique to AQ when it comes to ME terrorists.
Suprised yet ?
WHY was he run off? (it happened during one of my 'net-less periods)
Does anyone have a way to personally contact him?
Carolyn
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I saw it, she reported it very well. Some clown at the FBI denied it. I didn't catch his name, he just said "We concluded there was nothing to it".
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