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Astonishing But True! Replies to FR Poll on Potential POTUS

Posted on 04/16/2005 7:51:04 PM PDT by jla

"We know nothing really about her, but by God, Condi is our gal!" --- Anonymous Freeper


I've repeatedly asked here at FR for anyone to tell me *CONDI'S* stand on a number of issues ranging from economics to school prayer.
I have yet to receive one reply to my queries on where Miss Rice stands on a number of issues.

So can someone please tell me, especially you, Section 9, why I should be excited about a possible Condi Rice presidency run?

FYI: Miss R. in my opinion will prove to be an excellent Sec of State. But POTUS? Sorry, unlike a lot of Freepers my vote requires more than a cute smile or even worse, a fanatical appreciation of the Condi stare.

No wonder so many here can't seem to get behind Tom DeLay.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; condiminimum; condiwantstoheadnfl; doesntmatter; enoughalready; notnews; shedoesntwantit; stupidvanity; wontbecondi
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To: bill21

Hi...welcome to FR!


161 posted on 04/16/2005 11:21:34 PM PDT by trussell (Prayers for the missing children!)
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To: FreeReign
These quotes show that she's anti late-term abortion, against government funding of abortion and for parental notification. Those are her positions.

Those are the positions of President Bush as well.

162 posted on 04/16/2005 11:22:06 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: patent
I liked her, and still do, but I won't vote for a pro-choicer or a tepid pro-lifer, which is about as far as she can credibly move at this point. She will lose because she is pro-choice.

Her views on abortion mirror almost exactly those of President Bush. And he certainly got elected.

163 posted on 04/16/2005 11:25:39 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Trinity5
Smart enough for Stanford

so was Chelsea Clinton

Maybe she got her brains from her father Webb?


164 posted on 04/16/2005 11:28:01 PM PDT by ASA Vet (FR needs a Science Forum.)
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To: FreeReign

I'm being nice.


165 posted on 04/16/2005 11:28:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Major research project. Thanks


166 posted on 04/16/2005 11:30:57 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: FreedomCalls

http://www.bushrice04.org/index.php?id=5


167 posted on 04/16/2005 11:52:04 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: patent

Yes! What you said.


168 posted on 04/17/2005 1:33:24 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: kabar
"We should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other."

How outrageous. She sounds like some kind of conservative.

169 posted on 04/17/2005 1:51:35 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Ain't I a stinker?")
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To: Let's Roll

"If Shrillary runs, we don't have to run a woman to beat her "

Agreed. If Hillary runs, it would be best to put up a strong male candidate who is a leader.


170 posted on 04/17/2005 4:41:50 AM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: Petronski
She cannot get the nomination because she is pro-abortion.

...... and her rigid hairstyle looks like 'The Liberty Bell' with no cracks.

The darling girl should be Prez, but........

171 posted on 04/17/2005 4:53:36 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: jla
No wonder so many here can't seem to get behind Tom DeLay.

I'm missing your link and logic? What does your questions about Condi have to do with Delay?

Are you saying no one knows where these two are on the issues?

172 posted on 04/17/2005 5:01:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: FreedomCalls
These comments by Bush, Clinton, etc. talk more about process than the underlying moral issue. The idea that we "should not have the federal government [or presumably state governments] in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other." If you believe that abortion is murder, than it is difficult to give moral equivalency to those who believe that abortion should be available upon demand.

Getting the federal government out of the abortion debate and returning the question to the states (which is what overturning Roe v. Wade would do) is also the position Bush has taken.

I gather you are against Congress issuing laws against partial birth abortion.

Politicians always want to have it both ways and try to avoid taking stances on controversial issues. They issue delphic statements, which can be taken many different ways depending on one's personal views. Kerry did it with his being personally against abortion but did not want to impose his views on everyone. Hillary has also taken a similar tack. If you get past their words and look at their voting records, it becomes more obvious what their real positions are.

173 posted on 04/17/2005 5:24:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: StACase

They're mistaken if they think a woman for President will help them. Republicans are a long way from ever voting for a female for President. I'm not going to touch on the other "why".


174 posted on 04/17/2005 5:29:57 AM PDT by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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To: Oztrich Boy
"We should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other." How outrageous. She sounds like some kind of conservative

Is that the conservative or libertarian position? What does "forcing its views on one side or the other" mean? There are two sides to most issues that are raised in Congress or anywhere else for that matter. Deciding one way or another results in one side being unhappy.

175 posted on 04/17/2005 5:33:49 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jla

Even after all of this time, I still don't understand why the Conservatives eat their own. After the voracious attacks by the Left on the Right one would honestly think a stand would be taken. It is amazing but the hand of God keeps the riff raff out because it certainly does not have anything to do with unity within the Conservative community.


176 posted on 04/17/2005 5:35:20 AM PDT by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: jla
Well the poll is asking who you think would beat Hillary, not who you want as POTUS.

It's the same thing.

Beg to differ.

I would have said, "Sure CR can beat HRC".

Ask me the other one, and I say, "Dunno, yet. Tom Delay would be good, but he has to beat the current assault publicly and forcefully, and not be seen simply as 'getting away with it', before he can go national."

Long story short:

CR can (probably)beat HRC

CR is pro-abort, so I'd rather not unless I have to.

Thanx

177 posted on 04/17/2005 5:37:53 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Belgium! (4/29!))
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To: Trinity5
How about

"Smart enough to run Stanford"?

178 posted on 04/17/2005 5:40:14 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Belgium! (4/29!))
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To: All
Looks like we have the same phenomena developing with the Repubs that we saw in the Dems last election cycle which was "anybody but Bush" and they all lined up behind Kerry who turned out to be a disaster.

Now Repubs are jumping on Condi's bandwagon because polls are telling them she's the only one with a chance of beating Hillary in 08.

For starters, we don't know if Condi is running, and we don't know where she stands on the issues.

179 posted on 04/17/2005 5:43:49 AM PDT by moondoggie
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To: jla
I voted for "other", partly because I am not sure of her stands. Some on the list I would vote "for" only to vote"against" hellary or whoever runs (McCain, Tancredo).

I like Jeb, but don't think he could win - only because of his last name - which I think is crazy. I like the VP, but am not sure about his "health" (knowing full well that the MSM would not mention "heart" if the toon could run).

Allen - I need to know more about him. Frist is too wimpy.

180 posted on 04/17/2005 5:44:47 AM PDT by mathluv
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