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China held military drill (anti-carrier exercise)
Taipei Times ^ | 04/13/05

Posted on 04/13/2005 8:44:31 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

China held military drill

HIGH ALTITUDE: A local military commentator said the drill, said to target US aircraft carriers, posed no danger since radar could detect a Chinese assault

DPA , TAIPEI
Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005,Page 4

China reportedly held an anti-aircraft-carrier drill last month to prepare for blocking US assistance to Taiwan in the event of a cross-strait war, but a Taiwanese military expert yesterday said the drill would not pose a major threat to US aircraft carriers.

"In this drill, Chinese warplanes can only descend to 100m above the water's surface, so they can still be easily detected by US radar," said Lee Shih-ping, an expert on warships and warplanes.

"In the Falklands War, the Argentine Navy's Super Etendard warplanes descended to within 30m of the British aircraft-carrier group, enabling them to fire Exocet missiles and sinking the British Royal Air Force's destroyer Sheffield and support ship Atlantic Conveyor," he said.

"But although Chinese warplanes cannot attack US aircraft carriers, Chinese submarines can attack them on their way from Japan to Taiwan or when they show up off Taiwan's east coast," he said.

Several US aircraft carriers are based in Japan and Hawaii, the headquarters of the US Pacific Command.

Yesterday, Hong Kong's pro-China newspaper Wen Wei Pao reported the Chinese air force conducted an anti-aircraft-carrier drill last month to prepare for US intervention in a cross-strait military conflict.

"A Feibao (Flying Leopard) attack warplane descended from 600m to 100m and approached the intended target. This poses a serious threat to the US aircraft-carrier battle group because the Chinese jet can escape US radar at such a low attitude, while mid-air refueling has extended the plane's combat radius," the report said.

Local press reports said that Washington, which is bound by the Taiwan Relations Act to help provide for Taiwan's defense, may send aircraft carriers to Taiwanese waters to counter a Chinese attack.

In 1996, the US sent two aircraft-carrier battle groups to Taiwanese waters after China fired missiles into the Taiwan Strait.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2005/04/13/2003250267


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anticarrier; carrier; china; chinesemilitary; crossstraitwar; exercise; feibao; taiwan
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They are trying hard.
1 posted on 04/13/2005 8:44:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; tallhappy; Dr. Marten; Jeff Head; Khurkris; hedgetrimmer; ...
Carrier-killers, ping!
2 posted on 04/13/2005 8:45:45 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ok send B-52s with long range missles.


3 posted on 04/13/2005 8:46:14 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They may be trying too hard, but this hit home for me. I've got family on the Kitty Hawk. "I can't tell you where we're going" means "we'll be in the Straits of Taiwan".


4 posted on 04/13/2005 8:47:46 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bring it on girls....kill off all your good pilots....meanwhile I do hope the navy has a plan for the subs that will surely take a shot at the carriers as well....


5 posted on 04/13/2005 8:47:49 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Spook86; BIGLOOK; xzins; Grampa Dave; MineralMan; elfman2; ThanhPhero; xusafflyer; tht73a; ...

MI Ping


6 posted on 04/13/2005 8:47:56 AM PDT by ASA Vet (The speed of time is one second per second.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Several US aircraft carriers are based in Japan and Hawaii, the headquarters of the US Pacific Command.

What a crock! We have no carriers based in Hawaii and only 1 in Japan. Arghh.. I hate it when the press can't get their sh%$#t straight.

7 posted on 04/13/2005 8:48:47 AM PDT by bkwells
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To: bmwcyle

Ok send B-52s with long range missles.
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Our Boomer fleet remains the ultimate trump card -- it is always ready to play, and they know that.


8 posted on 04/13/2005 8:49:18 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Q)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Aegis + AWACS = Not going to happen, China.

The Brits didn't have AWACS coverage. We do.


9 posted on 04/13/2005 8:49:38 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"But although Chinese warplanes cannot attack US aircraft carriers, Chinese submarines can attack them on their way from Japan to Taiwan or when they show up off Taiwan's east coast,"

Not with an LA Class sub in the area, they can't.

10 posted on 04/13/2005 8:50:36 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: EagleUSA

Keep the real first string ready.


11 posted on 04/13/2005 8:52:28 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: Psalm 73

"Not with an LA Class sub in the area, they can't."

Yep - I think this is our trump card in the Taiwan Straits, the Chicoms have built a large number of diesel subs to prevent it, but I think they will just disappear if hostilities begin.


12 posted on 04/13/2005 8:53:47 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Support John Kerry......... Ho Chi Minh would. Damn! Now I need a new tagline.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Once again...your Wal-Mart dollars at work! Could it be more clear?


13 posted on 04/13/2005 8:55:24 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (Wal-Mart et al--the Chicom's military supplier)
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To: ASA Vet

The old maxim applies: "You Train How You Fight".

What other reason could there be, for developing anti-carrier drills, unless that's the enemy you expect to fight?


14 posted on 04/13/2005 9:00:01 AM PDT by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: Paulus Invictus
Once again...your Wal-Mart dollars at work! Could it be more clear?

Thank God only WalMart sells Chinese-made goods, not Target or K-Mart or any other of the major retailers...


/sarc
15 posted on 04/13/2005 9:02:26 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Dr. Marten

<< "In the Falklands War, the Argentine Navy's [FRENCH] Super Etendard warplanes descended to within 30m of the British aircraft-carrier group, enabling them to fire [FRENCH] Exocet missiles and sinking the British Royal Air Force's destroyer Sheffield and support ship Atlantic Conveyor ....." >>

And the french -- amoral sluts that they are -- want to arm "china," too.

Its psychopathological-hesperophobia is beginning to get the better of it and "china" had better pull its bloody head in -- least someone takes it seriously and smacks it upside the head!

Like last time it got cocky and needed the demonstration of its abject inferiority and the British sent a few Good Men in a few wooden ships at the end of a six-months and ten-thousand-miles long supply line.

And kicked its arse so comprehensively Pigking's pack are still making bad movies about it -- and bemoaning their humiliating ass-whupping!

BUMPping


16 posted on 04/13/2005 9:03:16 AM PDT by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: numberonepal

No it doesnt. Troop movements are strictly classified...to anywhere.


17 posted on 04/13/2005 9:25:49 AM PDT by TheGunny
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To: conservativewasp

LA class subs might be good, but they're still nuclear powered and thus, potentially be more noisy than diesel powered subs.

You have to remember that Taiwan straight is VERY narrow and VERY shallow. Not a good place for a nuclear sub to operate in. Nuke sub's best advantage is in DEEP waters versus conventional diesel subs.

Thus, I don't see the US carrier group anywhere close to Taiwan and hence the real worry is that if the carrier group has to operate 400 miles from Taiwan initially, by the time it can get closer, China have already landed troops on Taiwan. Then it becomes a political decision whether to use military force or not after Taiwan has already been lost.

This is of course, assuming US will intervene in the first place. China still holds the trump card of owning Walmart (well, if they don't supply Walmart, which is about 10% of US economy, Walmart will have to find elsewhere, hence, HIGHER pricing, hence HIGHER inflation) AND they buy about 15% of US treasury (hence, higher interest rates when they don't buy). Inflation + higher interest rate = economic killers.


18 posted on 04/13/2005 9:42:35 AM PDT by pganini
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To: bkwells

The Navy is studying the possibility of homeporting a CVN at Pearl. I think it will probably happen.


19 posted on 04/13/2005 9:57:23 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: pganini

That's pretty much my 'read' on this situation. We agree.


20 posted on 04/13/2005 10:00:03 AM PDT by Tallguy
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