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1 posted on 04/10/2005 8:45:40 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Be a Catholic, or join another church. What's so hard about that?


2 posted on 04/10/2005 8:47:47 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: neverdem
The New York Times just keeps it up, advising us Catholic faithful that buggery and infanticide are the true path to salvation.
3 posted on 04/10/2005 8:48:29 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (Ted Kennedy and the New York Times do NOT select our next Pope.)
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To: Coleus

ping


4 posted on 04/10/2005 8:53:14 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
Here's the balance paragraph, "Certainly there are traditionalists. "If it works, why mess with it? It lasted 2,000 years. Why mess with it?" asked Joseph M. Perry, 51, a mechanic from Reading, Mass. Mr. Perry says he does not agree with abortion and thinks priests should remain celibate and male."
5 posted on 04/10/2005 8:57:12 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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To: neverdem

The secular MSM sure is working hard to convince us that the Ten Commandments are a "living and breathing" document and that many of the commandments need to be repealed or amended.


6 posted on 04/10/2005 8:57:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I'm all for separation of church and the secular media.)
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To: neverdem



>>>> but has had two children out of wedlock. <<<<<

Can't be that much of a devoted Catholic


7 posted on 04/10/2005 9:07:33 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: neverdem
The Beatitudes, according to the NY Times:

Blessed are the whiners, for they shall be interviewed.

Blessed are the shrill, for they shall have the rules changed in their favor.

Blessed are those who claim to follow Me but think they don't have to listen to Me. The city of LA is theirs.

Blessed are the sanctimonious, for they shall sell many newspapers.

Blessed are the cafeteria catholics, for they shall see satan.

And how blessed are you when the Elite Media has you on their rolodex for interviews as a Catholic who can be counted on to say the "right" things. You shall become an editor.
10 posted on 04/10/2005 9:24:03 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: neverdem
A lot of American Catholics do a poor job of raising their children. As a convert to the faith, I have noticed that there are many cradle Catholics who either don't know or don't care what their faith is all about. My daughter is in Catholic school, now, and the younger will follow. In addition, we have talks about morals, beliefs, and sin. We'll see in about 15 years if it took!

I am not without sin but I want my kids to know that the mistakes I have made were not the right decisions. If you can't raise your kids to be real Catholics and not just those who warm seats during mass but don't follow the beliefs, then don't call them Catholic!! Some Catholics seem to believe that as long as they eat the host on Sundays, that's all that matters.

11 posted on 04/10/2005 9:25:17 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: neverdem
Mr. Gonya "attends mass at two churches every Sunday." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the Church allows attendance at mass twice on the same day.
12 posted on 04/10/2005 9:34:41 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: neverdem
Where to begin with an article like this?

An article quoting a bunch of dissidents and one orthodox?

The high school boy whose Catholic school taught him the Church is accountable for the spread of AIDS in Africa?

The radical feminist at BC who exemplifies the problem in our "Catholic" universities?

The substitution of "a la carte" for "cafeteria" -- the fact they needed to choose a French euphemism suggests where they really stand.

The fact is, this type of thinking ("we need liberal changes") exists but it is out of touch with the reality of faithful Church-going Catholics.

13 posted on 04/10/2005 9:36:36 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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To: neverdem

What it seems like to me is a lot of people wanting a religion of convenience rather than true beliefs. I'm not a very religious person (call it a crisis of faith, if you will), and never was Catholic, but it disgusts me every time I hear someone saying a church either has or should conform its message to popular political trends.


16 posted on 04/10/2005 11:04:57 PM PDT by Ain Soph Aur
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To: neverdem
"As for me, I think I've done a lot of sin and if I go to church, it's better."

At least she recognizes the value of being there. Maybe someday, the truth will finally dawn on her and she'll make better choices in life.

23 posted on 04/10/2005 11:22:26 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: neverdem

this sickens me... how is living a lifestyle that contradicts the very beliefs of who you claim to be--how is that "keeping the faith?" like Ted Kennedy and other such Catholics, they are Catholic in name only... devout Catholics, rise up and defend your faith and church... many, like the young woman in this article, are making a mockery of Catholicism... (i know--it's the same in the Protestant church.)


25 posted on 04/10/2005 11:37:30 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: neverdem
But some younger Catholics say they can no longer live their lives in keeping with doctrine. Adam Williams, 17, goes to Mass at Mount Carmel, the Catholic high school he attends in Baltimore, but rarely goes to church otherwise. The church's prohibitions on "almost everything a kid can do," Adam said, has made him ever more reluctant to identify himself as Catholic.

Oh, man, that mean old church won't let me do ANYTHING! Well, I just won't call myself Catholic anymore. That'll really show 'em!!!

The modern Left's solution to the problem of "sin": Hold regular public celebrations of it.

33 posted on 04/11/2005 5:33:16 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: neverdem
"You have to fit to the wishes of the people because the people are the church."

That's right there with what Paul was saying in Romans, isn't it now?

34 posted on 04/11/2005 5:45:06 AM PDT by The Iguana
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To: neverdem

The MSM just does not get it. The gall of them to advise the church as to what they should be doing. These people have no shame.


46 posted on 04/11/2005 12:55:55 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: neverdem; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ..
Here is why we avoid so called 'catholic' schools, in the words of a 'catholic school' student:
"If it wants to stay one of the major religions in this country, it needs to progress with the times and let women priests in," said Katie McDevitt, 20, a sophomore at Boston College, a Jesuit university. Ms. McDevitt says she attends church relatively regularly, and she recently went to a memorial Mass for John Paul. "It needs not to be so sexist and patriarchal. There is a lot of emphasis on the wrong principles."

48 posted on 04/11/2005 2:14:49 PM PDT by narses (St James the Moor-slayer, Pray for us! +)
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To: neverdem
She attends Mass every Sunday but has had two children out of wedlock. She thinks abortion is murder but chafes at the Vatican's ban on birth control.

What's she worried about the ban on birth control for? She obviously isn't using any or she wouldn't have two kids out of wedlock.

67 posted on 04/11/2005 9:04:48 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: neverdem
Doesn't sound like they're keeping the faith to me. Around here we call'em cafeteria Catholics. And most of the Catholics we know fit that description.
69 posted on 04/12/2005 4:48:06 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: neverdem

The NYT generally interviews a lot of different folks with lots of different points of views, and then only uses the interviews that prove their point. They do the same thing with polls, only citing the ones that support their uber-liberal talking points.

If they ever call, do yourself a favor and hang-up on them.



70 posted on 04/12/2005 4:48:47 AM PDT by tdewey10 (Rest in Peace Pope John Paul II)
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