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Forever - Banned
Pasadena Citizen ^

Posted on 04/10/2005 6:42:44 PM PDT by Texasbock

Pasadena Independent School District superintendent Dr. Rick Schneider has banned the book "Forever" by popular children's author Judy Blume from the shelves of libraries within the district.

The book had previously been found in the collections of one intermediate and three high schools. Advertisement

"It is never an easy decision to pull a book from the shelves. The superintendent has the responsibility to put materials in the system that are educationally suitable and appropriate. In this particular case, after reading the book, he felt that, though the theme is not unsuitable certain passages are and decided to remove the book," said district spokesperson Kirk Lewis.

The complaint was initially lodged by a parent at Thompson Intermediate School.

According to district policy process, a campus review committee was formed to study the book.

The issue was next studied by a central office committee comprised of administrators, instructors and parents and then by Schneider.

Though an initial committee recommendation was that the work be removed from only intermediate and not high school libraries, it was ultimately decided to withdraw "Forever" from the district library system completely due to what was deemed "sexually explicit content.

"Certain passages were not appropriate for any students of the school district," continued Lewis.

The novel, first published in 1975, is self-described as "a moving story of the end of innocence."

According to the American Library Association, it is the eighth "most frequently challenged" book.

A challenge is defined as a formal, written complaint, filed with a library or school requesting that materials be removed because of content or appropriateness. The ALA Office for Intellectual Freedom received a total of 547 challenges last year. According to Judith F. Krug, director of the Office for Intellectual Freedom, the number of challenges reflects only incidents reported, and for each reported, four or five remain unreported.


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To: Melas
Post 111 contained a few verses from Proverbs, which while meaningful in their own rights, weren't even vaguely related to the subject matter. The only tie-in is that the verses you chose are about a woman, and Judy Blume happens to be a gyno-American. But hey....if you think that you were making sense, that's all that really matters in this age of self-esteem.

Sure they're applicable if you have any knowledge of the Bible. The book of Proverbs is God's instruction book for raising children. Proverbs makes it very clear that children should not be exposed to Judy Blume's garbage, and if they are exposed then they should flee from it due to its danger.

If you have arguments with that then you need to explicitly state where the book of Proverbs meets your position. Otherwise, your beliefs are irrelevent.
161 posted on 04/11/2005 10:07:49 AM PDT by politicket
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To: Modernman
Not even close to being true.

Then my dear sir, what is your foundation?
162 posted on 04/11/2005 10:08:46 AM PDT by politicket
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To: Neoliberalnot
Here is the deal on this book by Judy Blume: I will cut to the chase and say kids today know too much about math, science, and writing, and not enough about sex. Parents have failed in their duties and so, it is up to schools and hollywood to teach kids about sex and sexual relationships.

I don't usually attack the poster with names, but "YOU'RE NUTS!!" newbie.
163 posted on 04/11/2005 10:10:14 AM PDT by politicket
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To: Clara Lou

With all the many good books available, Judy Blume's books will not be missed. I read two, and like you, them made me uncomfortable, and I decided not to have my daughter read them. Besides, I they were not well written, certainly no "Little Women" or "Black Beauty."


164 posted on 04/11/2005 10:13:01 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Annie03; Baby Bear; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; blackeagle; BroncosFan; Capitalism2003; dAnconia; ...
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165 posted on 04/11/2005 10:15:44 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change goverment support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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To: HKTechBoy
"When I went on Road Trips with the guys, the rule was the guy with the largest bladder determined when to stop, if this ninnys take over more power it's going to be the guy with the smallest bladder calls the shots."

I knew of a college dude who had a collection of bottles to supplement his bladder. One time, he forgot to roll down the window when he was de-ballasting the reserve tanks.
166 posted on 04/11/2005 10:16:39 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.)
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To: Mercat
Was she the one who wrote, "eat it or wear it." My kids still say that.

Yeah, that was her. That was from Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing. In my very brief pre-high school public school experiences, I had a fourth-grade teacher who read that to our class. It was a lot of fun, but, looking back, we could've actually read it ourselves or learned something more important...

167 posted on 04/11/2005 10:17:41 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: politicket

No, I am not nuts, but I am sarcastic to a fault. If I was serious, you are right, I would be a liberal--synonymous with nuts.


168 posted on 04/11/2005 10:20:24 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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To: politicket

That was actually my personal definition of a fool, not a personal attack on you... relax.

But since you brought up the subject:

I think the whole concept of self-assurance is hilarious!!!! I'm glad there are fools (aka serious people who are intent on wasting both sunny and rainy days). The violent fools are another story.

I have plenty of doubts about the security of my own knowledge and wisdom. Heck if I were about to step on a nail I would surely want someone to shout out: "Hey Gava, watch out for that nail!!!!"

(hint: the best defensive against non-argumentative statements is light-hearted humor)

I have no quams with God but humanity is very stupid and overly critical of its neighbors. It's no surprise that Christ was displeased with the actions of some of his own followers. I bet that all he wanted to do was show people how to live life to the fullest and only be serious enough to show others how to do the same.

If the word of god isn't intended to compel us to live a joyous, meaningful life than what could it possibly be about?


169 posted on 04/11/2005 10:21:41 AM PDT by Gava
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To: politicket

Depends on what you mean by ultimate knowledge. I'm not sure what the phrase means.


170 posted on 04/11/2005 10:25:41 AM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Neoliberalnot
No, I am not nuts, but I am sarcastic to a fault. If I was serious, you are right, I would be a liberal--synonymous with nuts.

Whew!!! Sorry about that, but you had me scared for a second regarding your mental well being. One of these might help in the future: "</sarcasm>"
171 posted on 04/11/2005 10:25:49 AM PDT by politicket
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To: politicket
Proverbs makes it very clear that children should not be exposed to Judy Blume's garbage,

The Bible mentions Judy Blume? Wow. Amazing.

172 posted on 04/11/2005 10:26:58 AM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Neoliberalnot

There was a book once called "Pinballs" I think - all about these abused and/or abondonded kids who were now in foster homes - I literally HATED the book - it was 6th grade reading curriculum in Texas, 4th grade in PA.........now what does that tell you?


173 posted on 04/11/2005 10:27:48 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Melas
I salute you for you own effort and feelings on behalf of your children, and particularly for home scholing. My oldest daughter is home schooling her two.

These parent got involved on behalf of their children and they made a difference by so doing. I applaud their involvement...and in this case, agree with it too.

Best regards.

174 posted on 04/11/2005 10:27:57 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Bigg Red

Well said. It seems that too many are at the stage of "well, they're going to do it anyway, so what's the big deal"? That kind of giving up will only lead to more problems.

Yes, *some* teens have sex - but certainly not all of them, and there's certainly no point in advertising that it's a "common" thing.


175 posted on 04/11/2005 10:28:03 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("O Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight!")
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To: politicket
Proverbs makes it very clear that children should not be exposed to Judy Blume's garbage, and if they are exposed then they should flee from it due to its danger.

Alriiiiiiiiiiiiiighty then.

176 posted on 04/11/2005 10:28:27 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Gava
If the word of god isn't intended to compel us to live a joyous, meaningful life than what could it possibly be about?

There is much joy in serving God through His son Jesus Christ. It makes us empty vessels before God, to be filled by His will for our lives.

This is different from us relying on our own sense of "rightness" and "goodness" because those are based on our terms, not God's.
177 posted on 04/11/2005 10:30:22 AM PDT by politicket
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To: Melas

I must congratulate you on such a wise decision. Your kids will thank you for that and they will live wonderful, happy, productive lives. My cousin was homeschooled and she may be the most brilliant, sociable, and kind-hearted person i've ever met.


178 posted on 04/11/2005 10:31:26 AM PDT by Gava
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To: Modernman
Depends on what you mean by ultimate knowledge. I'm not sure what the phrase means.

It means "What do you use as a baseline in your life?" (Or does your baseline change each morning when you wake up?).

Is there anything that is steadfast and never changing in your life that you can grasp hold of as an anchor?
179 posted on 04/11/2005 10:33:12 AM PDT by politicket
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To: politicket
Is there anything that is steadfast and never changing in your life that you can grasp hold of as an anchor?

My life is pretty stable as it is. I don't really have a problem with an everchanging reality.

So, I don't think your question really applies to me.

180 posted on 04/11/2005 10:35:16 AM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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