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Dems Showed Soros Secret Rove Plan
National Review Online ^ | April 6, 2005 | Byron York

Posted on 04/06/2005 5:46:33 AM PDT by Quilla

EDITOR'S NOTE: NR White House Correspondent Byron York's new book, The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, details how MoveOn.org, George Soros, Michael Moore, 527 groups, Al Franken, and other Democratic activists built the biggest, richest, and best organized political movement in generations. The book reports that in 2003, as Democratic operatives were planning the campaign against President Bush, they obtained a copy of a top-secret Republican strategy plan authored by top White House political adviser Karl Rove. The following excerpt details how those operatives, as part of the effort to woo Soros and other multi-million dollar contributors, showed Soros the secret Rove plan during a crucial planning session at Soros's Hamptons estate. After the meeting, Soros became the biggest campaign donor in American history, giving more than $25 million to the effort to defeat George W. Bush.

In June 2003, Soros announced he was pulling back from the pro-democracy work that his main foundation, the Open Society Institute, did in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union so that he could focus his attention on the United States. The change was necessary, Soros told reporters in Moscow, because the political scene in America had become "quite dangerous." In the Bush administration, Soros explained, "the executive branch has come under the influence of a group of ideologues who have forgotten the first principle of an open society: that they don't have a monopoly on truth."

"What really got him energized was the foreign policy of this administration," Soros's chief of staff and political advisor, Michael Vachon, told me. "He was motivated by his conviction that the Bush administration's foreign policy was leading the U.S. in a disastrous direction." So Soros decided that Bush had to go.Of course, Soros, a Hungarian-born naturalized U.S. citizen, had just one vote. But he had a lot of money. Still, even a man of Soros's wealth and reach didn't know quite how one went about toppling a president. So he called in the experts, or,more accurately, he had his expert — Vachon — call in the experts. Vachon told me he got in touch with two Democratic political consulting firms, TSD Communications, based in Washington, D.C., and M&R Strategic Services, with major offices in D.C. and in Portland, Oregon, and asked them to come up with suggestions for a Soros-funded anti-Bush campaign.

I asked Mark Steitz, the "S" in TSD Communications, what Soros wanted. "He said, 'I am concerned about the direction our country is going under this guy [Bush],'" Steitz, a former communications director for the Democratic National Committee and top advisor to Jesse Jackson, told me. "'I want to know what are the strategies that could be used to change this. Are there investments that could be made that could make a difference? How would you do this?' He approached it in a way that, I might imagine, he approaches investments."

Steitz and his colleagues, along with a separate team from M&R, studied the issue. Should Soros pour a lot of cash into anti-Bush television advertising? Should he pour it into Democratic efforts to win back Congress? Would the new McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, which Soros had vigorously supported, be a significant handicap in the effort?

Both groups of consultants came to the same conclusion. Rejecting an old-style, big-money TV campaign, Steitz and his colleagues argued that Soros could have the most impact by concentrating his donations in what is called the "voter contact" area. Much more than the old idea of getting out the vote, "voter contact" means an intensive effort to identify and profile potential voters in every voting district in critical swing states, getting in touch with them long before the election, and then keeping up with them, nurturing them, and making sure they get to the polls on Election Day. In July 2003, the consultants' team combined their research to make a presentation to Soros at his home in Southampton, the same Long Island estate where, a few months later, the billionaire would receive a fund-raising appeal from MoveOn's Wes Boyd.

Steitz was a true believer in the new approach, which was a radical departure from older mass-audience appeals of television ads and direct mail. As I talked with Steitz about how he and the consultant team had prepared the presentation for Soros, I learned that the plan had been heavily influenced by two factors. One — no surprise — was the success that Democratic-supporting labor unions had had in their get-out-the vote efforts. But the other, perhaps more powerful, influence on Steitz's thinking — big surprise — was a secret, cutting-edge political strategy document prepared by Karl Rove, the president's top political advisor. The document, a PowerPoint presentation that outlined GOP strategy in the 2002 midterm elections and laid the groundwork for a similar strategy in 2004, had been made "unintentionally available" to Democrats in the first months of 2003, Steitz told me. It was not clear just how that happened — was it stolen? lost? leaked? — but once the document fell into Democratic hands, it was shared, e-mail to e-mail, among a number of top party strategists in Washington.

One of them was Steitz, who read it eagerly and was deeply impressed. "A big influence on all this [the Soros plan] was the Rove PowerPoint presentation," Steitz told me. "It's a remarkable document." Armed with that knowledge, the strategists made their presentation, and during that presentation, they actually showed Soros portions of the Republicans' secret plan. "The purpose [of presenting the GOP document] was to show the importance of voter contact,"Vachon told me. Soros might as well have been briefed by Karl Rove himself.

When Steitz told me the story, I immediately thought of a minor sensation in Washington political circles in June 2002, when a Democratic Senate aide found a CD-ROM lying on the ground in Lafayette Park, just across Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House. The aide had no idea what was on the unmarked disk, but soon found that it was the full text of two PowerPoint presentations. One was a slide show to accompany a speech by Rove, and the other was meant to accompany a presentation by Rove's top aide, Ken Mehlman, who at the time was White House political director and who would later become the manager of the president's reelection campaign. The subject of both presentations was the then-upcoming 2002 House and Senate midterm elections. There were a few embarrassing news stories about the lost disk — the presentations contained some less-than-optimistic assessments of Republican chances in a couple of Senate contests at a time when the GOP was publicly saying chances looked good. But the story soon faded.

The PowerPoint presentation that Steitz and other Democrats had was a completely different document — much more detailed and sophisticated. It was apparently acquired by Democrats sometime in the late spring of 2003. I asked Steitz if he would show it to me, and he agreed. What I saw was a remarkable work. It's no wonder it had a profound effect on the Soros group.

The presentation, titled the "72 Hour Task Force," contained the results of a "top to bottom review," ordered by Rove, of GOP turnout efforts in the 2000 race.What was perhaps most remarkable about it was that it was a harrowingly self-critical assessment of the Bush campaign's performance. The essential question it asked was,Why did we come so close to losing? To find an answer, Rove began by taking a sober look at the difference between preelection state polls, which often showed Bush leading by significant margins, and the actual results of the election, in which Bush sometimes squeaked by. "In Arizona, the polling said we would win by ten, but we won by just six," the presentation said. "In Florida, the polling said we would win by two — we won by just a chad." That trend, Rove concluded, held true in nearly every other state Bush won.

As Rove looked ahead to 2004, he saw no particular reason for optimism. "Perhaps the president's leadership will lead to a realignment of the electorate, but we would be foolish to plan on it," the presentation said. Therefore, victory would probably go to whichever side was most successful in getting its voters to the polls. And the answer to that problem was deceptively simple: Rove's prescription was to "Get People Back into Campaigns." That did not mean simply asking GOP activists to try harder. Instead, the document said, it meant fundamentally rethinking the way the party motivated its voters and producing a blueprint for winning the next "turnout war." The "72 Hour Task Force" was that blueprint.

Rove was particularly impressed with Hillary Rodham Clinton's turnout plan in the 2000 New York Senate race. "Arguably the prototype for an exhaustive grassroots campaign," the Clinton plan was a six-month timeline, organized "down to the block level," with impressive big-labor support. The result simply blew away anything the GOP was doing at the time." Unfortunately, too many of our campaigns make the mistake of believing that we can simply pay to send mail and phone calls that will achieve the same result," Rove said. Instead, he advocated using the labor union principle — to "get people to take responsibility for as small a number of voters as possible" — in a Republican context, that is, without labor unions. Rove wrote that the campaign should rely on highly motivated volunteers and make each responsible for reaching a relatively small number of people. If a campaign made a volunteer responsible for shepherding the votes of too many people — say, 4,000 — then "you might as well give them 40,000." In other words, no one could keep up, or make personal contact, with so many voters. But if a worker was given responsibility for, say, 85 voters, then that worker could keep tabs on each one. Voters, Rove noted, are inundated with political ads and e-mails and phone calls, and "person-to-person contact cuts through the clutter." The presentation went on to describe extensive tests the Rove team conducted in off-year elections. Picking two similar state or local races, Rove's strategists poured money for old-fashioned politicking into one, and money for heavy voter contact into the other. The voter contact model won each time.

The copy of the PowerPoint that became "unintentionally available" to Democrats was rich in the details of Rove's testing models and conclusions. It contained not only the graphic slides to be presented to private GOP audiences, but also the script that the presenter used to describe the project. For Democrats, it was a gold mine of information. "It's really nice," Steitz told me. "The script is attached. I've been a student of it."

After the election, I asked Rove himself whether he knew at the time that Democrats had obtained a copy of the PowerPoint presentation. I asked the questions in the middle of a wide-ranging discussion of election strategy in which Rove was quite voluble, but when I got to the PowerPoint, his answers became very brief.

"Yes, I knew that at the time."

"Did you know how it got into Democratic hands?"

"No."

"Were you surprised that it did?"

"Yes."

"How did you react?"

"Problematic." That was Rove-speak for saying he viewed something as a potentially difficult situation.

But what was bad news for Rove and the Bush campaign was good news for George Soros. And on that summer day in Southampton, as he viewed Rove's secret PowerPoint, Soros was clearly fascinated with the nuts and bolts of political organizing. "He was sort of leaning forward and saying, 'So they go door-to-door to the same place?'" Steitz recalled. It was not long before Soros was sold.

But how would the voter contact idea be put into action? To address that part of things, the consultant team had invited two of the most important and successful organizers in Democratic politics: Ellen Malcolm, founder of the pro-choice political network EMILY's List, the largest political action committee in the country, and Steve Rosenthal, recently of the AFL-CIO, one of the best ground-level organizers in all of politics.Malcolm and Rosenthal were already planning to emphasize voter contact in the 2004 race, working through their new group, America Coming Together, or ACT, a 527 organization that would be allowed to accept unlimited contributions.

In a sense, Soros and his giving partner, Peter Lewis, were ahead of the activists. When I asked Malcolm what the group talked about after the consultants had made their presentation, she said that the talk quickly got deep into the details. "We had a lot of conversation about how it was all going to operate," she told me. "How did the coalition work? Who was going to make decisions? I remember Peter Lewis saying, 'If I'm mad about something that's happening in Ohio, who do I call on the phone and say, Who's responsible, it's all screwed up?' And we hadn't really started. I mean, we had the concept, we knew what we wanted to build in terms of the canvassing and the voter contact, but we had a lot of things to work out."

After the presentation, Soros said he wanted to think about it overnight. But he didn't take long to decide. "By the end of the weekend, it was clear that he was in," Steitz said. And in in a big way: Malcolm told me that she and Rosenthal walked away with commitments for a total of $23 million from Soros, Lewis, and a few others at the meeting. Within weeks, Soros began writing checks to ACT. First came $1 million on August 19. Then $2 million on September 12. Then another $2 million on December 23. And then $4.55 million to the Joint Victory Fund, an umbrella organization that then distributed the money to ACT, on April 15, 2004. In the beginning, Soros had pledged $10 million to ACT and other Democratic 527s. Then the number became $15 million. Then $20 million. Then $25 million. And then more. The 527s had never seen that amount of money come in from one person at one time. Soros would become the biggest donor in history.

It is impossible to overstate the importance of Soros's money for Democrats. And not just the money, but the message the money sent. "Go back to what the political culture was like at that time," Malcolm told me. "Democrats were pretty damned depressed. Bush was running roughshod, there was a lot of dissatisfaction, why weren't we fighting back more?...One of the important pieces of [Soros's] contribution, I think, was to signal to potential donors that he had looked at what was going on and that this was pretty exciting, and that he was going to stand behind it, and it was the real deal." And indeed, once Soros began giving, and word spread that he was giving, other contributions began streaming in. Soros, ACT, and the Democratic Party — with an enormous and wholly unintentional assist from Karl Rove — were in business.


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To: Quilla

This wasn't the first time that secret campaign material 'found' its way into the hands of Dem operatives.

Don't forget the TV ads that were given to the Dems by an employee of the company in Austin that was hired to do a Bush campaign.


81 posted on 04/06/2005 7:42:23 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Alia; Mo1; cyncooper; dirtboy; kcvl; piasa; windchime
*shadow party / soros ping*

EXCERPT:

F/R Shadow Party post 1

The Southampton Meeting

To the extent that the Shadow Party can be said to have an official launch date, July 17, 2003 probably fits the bill.[10] On that day, a team of political strategists, wealthy donors, leftwing labor leaders and other Democrat activists gathered at Soros’ Southampton beach house on Long Island. Aside from Soros, the most noteworthy attendee was Morton H. Halperin. Soros had hired Halperin in February 2002, to head the Washington office of his tax-exempt Open Society Institute – part of Soros’ global network of Open Society institutes and foundations located in more than 50 countries around the world. Given Halperin’s history, the appointment revealed much about Soros’ political goals.

Halperin has a long and controversial track record in the world of Washington intrigue, dating back to the Johnson Administration. Journalists sympathetic to Halperin’s leftwing sentiments give him high marks for blowing the whistle on the Vietnam War, but his activism helped undermine America’s war effort and contributed to the Communist victory.


EXCERPT:

F/R Shadow Party post 16

Put this in there somewhere:

O'Reilly Factor - Left-wing "reporters" met with John Kerry in Al Franken's apartment

03.22.04

Posted on 03/22/2004 10:13:09 PM EST by kcvl

In an effort to galvanize the message Kerry wants to deliver in the time remaining, he convened a powerful roster of journalists and columnists in the New York City apartment of Al Franken last Thursday. The gathering could not properly be called a meeting or a luncheon. It was a trial. The journalists served as prosecuting attorneys, jury and judge. The crowd I joined in Franken’s living room was comprised of:

Al Franken and his wife Franni;

Rick Hertzberg, senior editor for the New Yorker;

David Remnick, editor for the New Yorker;

Jim Kelly, managing editor for Time Magazine;

Howard Fineman, chief political correspondent for Newsweek;

Jeff Greenfield, senior correspondent and analyst for CNN;

Frank Rich, columnist for the New York Times;

Eric Alterman, author and columnist for MSNBC and the Nation;

Art Spiegelman, Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist/author of ‘Maus’;

Richard Cohen, columnist for the Washington Post;

Fred Kaplan, columnist for Slate;

Jacob Weisberg, editor of Slate and author;

Jonathan Alter, senior editor and columnist for Newsweek;

Philip Gourevitch, columnist for the New Yorker;

Calvin Trillin, freelance writer and author;

Edward Jay Epstein, investigative reporter and author;

Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., who needs no introduction.

We sat in a circle around Kerry and grilled him for two long hours. In an age of retail politicians who avoid substance the way vampires avoid sunlight, in an age when the sitting President flounders like a gaffed fish whenever he must speak to reporters without a script, Kerry’s decision to open himself to the slings and arrows of this group was bold and impressive. He was fresh from two remarkable speeches – one lambasting the PATRIOT Act, another outlining his foreign policy ideals while eviscerating the Bush record – and had his game face on. He needed it, because Eric Alterman lit into him immediately on the all-important issue of his vote for the Iraq War Resolution. The prosecution had begun.

16 posted on 10/06/2004 10:34:54 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)

82 posted on 04/06/2005 7:46:32 AM PDT by JesseJane (Divided we fall.)
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To: Tribune7

Go ahead and believe what you want.

You're wrong.

The facts as are I say.


83 posted on 04/06/2005 7:49:50 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: EllaMinnow

A T-Shirt is better than what Tareeezzaa Heinz got....she probably spent many millions...and she still has Kerry!


84 posted on 04/06/2005 7:50:17 AM PDT by all4one (Illegal aliens aka "Guest Workers"....just a PC name for slavery...kudos to the Minuteman Project)
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To: JesseJane
Adding:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1190718/posts

Top Individual Contributors to 527 Committees(list of 22)

2004 Election Cycle click HERE

(here are the top three:

1- Peter Lewis-Peter B Lewis/Progressive Corp- Cleveland, OH- $14,030,000

2- George Soros-Soros Fund Management- New York, NY- $12,600,000

3- Steven Bing-Shangri-La Entertainment- Los Angeles, CA- $8,086,273

*note: if you follow the above link and click on the individual's name, you'll find a list of the 527 groups contributed to; for example, here's Peter Lewis' list:

Joint Victory Campaign 2004- $7,750,000

America Coming Together- $2,995,000

MoveOn.org- $2,500,000

Marijuana Policy Project- $485,000

Young Democrats of America- $250,000

PunkVoter Inc- $50,000

15 posted on 08/13/2004 2:04:06 AM PDT by Susannah (Kerry has a flexible message--it changes with each campaign stop and audience.)

85 posted on 04/06/2005 7:50:39 AM PDT by JesseJane (Divided we fall.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Actually, they managed to make the election tighter than it was predicted because this was not a tinfoil trap but a real breach that was not intentional.


86 posted on 04/06/2005 7:51:27 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: JesseJane

Thank you!

I remembered that meeting but not the date.


87 posted on 04/06/2005 7:53:31 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Quilla

The Democrats will embrace any socialist, communist, or hate America leftist that will give them money. This is the end of an era from the Democratic party, but they still havent figured it out yet. Until they take their party back from the radical left like George Soros and Michael Moore that have hijacked it, they will continue to be only a regional party appealing only to the rabid radical left.


88 posted on 04/06/2005 7:55:36 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: cyncooper
The man who runs the world! The face of evil genius


89 posted on 04/06/2005 7:58:38 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: wildbill
Don't forget the TV ads that were given to the Dems by an employee of the company in Austin that was hired to do a Bush campaign.

I was thinking that was a purloined tape of then Gov. Bush practicing for the upcoming debates with Gore. Of course, my memory's not what it used to be.

90 posted on 04/06/2005 7:59:33 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Wow amazing stuff! Especially when you consider that it caused the democrats to shoot themselves in the foot. By emulating the Rove strategy they put their liberal wackos in the spotlight and showed the voters what they really are. This strategy works for conservatives because our message is sane and rational whereas the liberal message is flawed and will not stand up to close scrutiny. I can picture a typical american household being continually approached and contacted by some liberal political activist and becoming increasingly annoyed and disgusted with democrats. They don't have a good foot to put forward to be able to use this strategy effectively!


91 posted on 04/06/2005 8:13:06 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: cyncooper

I don't know why I should be, but I'm still amazed that they always get away with this crap. Just once I'd like to see large scale Watergate type consequences for their crimes. However, considering the republican senate can't even stand up and fight for judicial nominees, I'm guessing a senate appointed investigative panel on election/voter fraud is out of the question.

I didn't see the interview, with Brit, but thinking back on the election, it's pretty obvious that both parties were employing the same agressive grassroots style campaigns. Well, except that republican activists weren't registering Mary Poppins or channeling the "dearly departed" in an effort to help this sorely overlooked voting bloc to cast their ballots. Thank God for the Swifties, they were the one thing the Dems couldn't anticipate or mount a counterattack against.

Cindie


92 posted on 04/06/2005 8:21:16 AM PDT by gardencatz (I may look like a girl but I'm not, I'm a cyborg! -- Katsura)
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To: EdReform; Quilla; jer33 3; Grampa Dave
EDITOR'S NOTE: NR White House Correspondent Byron York's new book, The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, details how MoveOn.org, George Soros, Michael Moore, 527 groups, Al Franken, and other Democratic activists built the biggest, richest, and best organized political movement in generations. The book reports that in 2003, as Democratic operatives were planning the campaign against President Bush, they obtained a copy of a top-secret Republican strategy plan authored by top White House political adviser Karl Rove. The following excerpt details how those operatives, as part of the effort to woo Soros and other multi-million dollar contributors, showed Soros the secret Rove plan during a crucial planning session at Soros's Hamptons estate. After the meeting, Soros became the biggest campaign donor in American history, giving more than $25 million to the effort to defeat George W. Bush.


The Soros Threat

The Capitalist Threat
(1997 article by Soros)

SOROS SNACKING ON SIDE DISHES
(Soros the Adulterer)

FR Search for Keyword Soros

FR Search for Keyword George Soros

Yahoo Search for Soros Euthanasia


93 posted on 04/06/2005 8:22:26 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Quilla; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; dixiechick2000; ...
Dems Showed Soros Secret Rove Plan

Excerpt:

EDITOR'S NOTE: NR White House Correspondent Byron York's new book, The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, details how MoveOn.org, George Soros, Michael Moore, 527 groups, Al Franken, and other Democratic activists built the biggest, richest, and best organized political movement in generations. The book reports that in 2003, as Democratic operatives were planning the campaign against President Bush, they obtained a copy of a top-secret Republican strategy plan authored by top White House political adviser Karl Rove. The following excerpt details how those operatives, as part of the effort to woo Soros and other multi-million dollar contributors, showed Soros the secret Rove plan during a crucial planning session at Soros's Hamptons estate. After the meeting, Soros became the biggest campaign donor in American history, giving more than $25 million to the effort to defeat George W. Bush.

In June 2003, Soros announced he was pulling back from the pro-democracy work that his main foundation, the Open Society Institute, did in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union so that he could focus his attention on the United States. The change was necessary, Soros told reporters in Moscow, because the political scene in America had become "quite dangerous." In the Bush administration, Soros explained, "the executive branch has come under the influence of a group of ideologues who have forgotten the first principle of an open society: that they don't have a monopoly on truth."

"What really got him energized was the foreign policy of this administration," Soros's chief of staff and political advisor, Michael Vachon, told me. "He was motivated by his conviction that the Bush administration's foreign policy was leading the U.S. in a disastrous direction." So Soros decided that Bush had to go.Of course, Soros, a Hungarian-born naturalized U.S. citizen, had just one vote. But he had a lot of money. Still, even a man of Soros's wealth and reach didn't know quite how one went about toppling a president. So he called in the experts, or,more accurately, he had his expert — Vachon — call in the experts. Vachon told me he got in touch with two Democratic political consulting firms, TSD Communications, based in Washington, D.C., and M&R Strategic Services, with major offices in D.C. and in Portland, Oregon, and asked them to come up with suggestions for a Soros-funded anti-Bush campaign.

I asked Mark Steitz, the "S" in TSD Communications, what Soros wanted. "He said, 'I am concerned about the direction our country is going under this guy [Bush],'" Steitz, a former communications director for the Democratic National Committee and top advisor to Jesse Jackson, told me. "'I want to know what are the strategies that could be used to change this. Are there investments that could be made that could make a difference? How would you do this?' He approached it in a way that, I might imagine, he approaches investments."

Steitz and his colleagues, along with a separate team from M&R, studied the issue. Should Soros pour a lot of cash into anti-Bush television advertising? Should he pour it into Democratic efforts to win back Congress? Would the new McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, which Soros had vigorously supported, be a significant handicap in the effort?

Both groups of consultants came to the same conclusion. Rejecting an old-style, big-money TV campaign, Steitz and his colleagues argued that Soros could have the most impact by concentrating his donations in what is called the "voter contact" area. Much more than the old idea of getting out the vote, "voter contact" means an intensive effort to identify and profile potential voters in every voting district in critical swing states, getting in touch with them long before the election, and then keeping up with them, nurturing them, and making sure they get to the polls on Election Day. In July 2003, the consultants' team combined their research to make a presentation to Soros at his home in Southampton, the same Long Island estate where, a few months later, the billionaire would receive a fund-raising appeal from MoveOn's Wes Boyd.


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


94 posted on 04/06/2005 8:29:08 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Quilla
"Soros would become the biggest donor in history."

That goodness McCain-Feingold was passed to prevent this kind of thing. Oh wait...
95 posted on 04/06/2005 8:29:14 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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To: JesseJane

Thanks for the ping, JJ. "Vast Left Wing Conspiracy"?? Naaaahhhh.....


96 posted on 04/06/2005 8:39:39 AM PDT by Alia
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To: cyncooper
The facts as are I say.

Sounds like that should be written on a tablet somewhere.

97 posted on 04/06/2005 8:45:09 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Aw, come on, you know the Supreme Court will rule CFR is unconstitutional.

I couldn't help myself.

98 posted on 04/06/2005 8:45:39 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping!


99 posted on 04/06/2005 8:47:18 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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To: cyncooper
FR just isn't a fun place to discuss anymore, though. It looks and feels like the overall IQ has dropped 30 points. ---------- Not you, of course, but the general kook quotient is almost unbearable.

Do you really think these comments help anything at all?

100 posted on 04/06/2005 8:47:46 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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