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The Washington Post and the Pope (The Post tells us why John Paul II was a failure)
The Weekly Standard ^ | April 4, 2005 | Jonathan V. Last

Posted on 04/04/2005 5:35:33 PM PDT by RWR8189

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1 posted on 04/04/2005 5:35:34 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

What did you expect from a paper that along with the rest of the MSM is intent on destroying Christianity in the United States?


2 posted on 04/04/2005 5:37:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Coleus

ping


3 posted on 04/04/2005 5:39:32 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

No kidding. Is there no MSM journalist out there who seems content to let the Pope's beautiful legacy be respected? The MSM can't help but be the 'rats' they are....and they get paid for this garbage. It's really sickening.


4 posted on 04/04/2005 5:40:11 PM PDT by austinaero
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I've noticed this theme, that the pope was popular "despite" his relative conservatism. Impossible to imagine that people expect the church to be a timeless anchor and not twist and turn with with the times and might appreciate a Pope who values tradition. No, implied is that the natural way is liberalism so it is puzzling that anyone would like him, repressive as he was. And this is in news stories.
5 posted on 04/04/2005 5:44:20 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: RWR8189

No doubt Hanna Rosin thinks Communism is wonderful. She has never had to live under it, or perhaps she expects to be part of the Nomenklatura.

Pope John Paul II saw the effects of Nazism and Stalinism first hand in Poland. Not surprisingly, he concluded that "liberation theology"--which is nothing more than Communism with a Catholic veneer--is a bad idea. Fortunately most Latin Americans have come to agree with him. Where Communism lifts its ugly face in South America it has always been installed at the point of a gun.


6 posted on 04/04/2005 5:54:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: austinaero
Regardless, I think the next twenty years will be bright, for Evangelical Christianity as we gains more and more adherents from folks who are currently Catholic.
7 posted on 04/04/2005 5:54:52 PM PDT by Teplukin
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To: All

Accursed left wing ideology


8 posted on 04/04/2005 5:55:01 PM PDT by Polak z Polski
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To: RWR8189

It sounds like Hanna Rosin wanted to be Pope. If you don't like the tenets of the Catholic Church no one is forcing you to stay in it. Maybe Ms. Rosin's efforts would be better spent trying to reform another religion like say the one the fanatical Muslims follow.


9 posted on 04/04/2005 5:57:30 PM PDT by Merry
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The only failure I see is the post's author of that stupid article.


10 posted on 04/04/2005 6:00:07 PM PDT by Polak z Polski
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To: austinaero
You know, you think the MSM and liberal press would stop and realize what has been happening for the past two weeks. There has been constant coverage of stories that had high moral and spiritual relevance. And the TV audiences for FOX (and even CNN) are massive. Broadcasters state over and over that email has been tremendous.

They know there is non-stop watching for their non-stop coverage. Are the others even paying attention to what this says? They didn't believe it during the election; still didn't believe the Bush 2004 map. Will they understand these clear signs?

11 posted on 04/04/2005 6:01:12 PM PDT by CitizenM (An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded. Pope John Paul II)
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…the rise of liberation theology. The pope considered this movement a misguided Marxist revival…

… illustrating how far he was above the intelligence of the idiots of the WaPost editorial staff.

12 posted on 04/04/2005 6:04:50 PM PDT by D-fendr
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Good God, he's not even been buried!!!

These people make me sick.

I mean how dare he!! The religious leader of the world go and act all religious or something! What is wrong with him?


13 posted on 04/04/2005 6:06:32 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: Merry

Hanna Rosin can Bite Me.
Can ya tell I am just a bit sick of people who think how wonderful the Papacy would have been, how progressive, how modern, how open to the " people", if only they had been Pope. Put your name into the Conclave Hanna, what the heck maybe they'll do a MTV phone in poll for Pope this time. Stick around see if you should start picking out new colors for the Vatican. On the other hand don't.


14 posted on 04/04/2005 6:13:57 PM PDT by lastchance (Life is sacred.)
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To: RWR8189; Coleus; DoughtyOne; austinaero; sandbar; D-fendr; CitizenM; Polak z Polski; Merry; ...

Do you all notice that the MSM is trying very hard to separate the Pope from conservatives?

We hear over and over how John Paul II disagreed with the Iraq war and the death penalty.

Then we hear about polls and advice that the Catholic Church must liberalize its rules to allow for birth control, female priests, gay marriage, etc.

The sad truth is that liberals and the MSM understands, once again, that this country admires and respects morality and leadership.

They know that the people loved Reagan, John Paul II, Margaret Thatcher, etc. There is little love for Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, etc.

The left is trying to change the church into supporting leftist views so they can be vindicated in their beliefs.

Since that will not happen, the left knows that it is becoming a smaller and smaller minority.


15 posted on 04/04/2005 6:16:38 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: pepsi_junkie; CitizenM
I've noticed this theme, that the pope was popular "despite" his relative conservatism.

You know, you think the MSM and liberal press would stop and realize what has been happening for the past two weeks.

The evening of the pope's death, ABC radio did a special on John Paul II. It was a recurrent theme: this pope took "firm stands on controversial topics...yet his popularity steadily increased". The producers and presenters of the special had absolutely no concept of what it was that had made this pope special.

They also spent the evening flogging a poll "proving" that American Catholics wanted a "more modern" pope next time around.

The media's cluelessness is comparable to that which became apparent with the death of Ronald Reagan. The popular outpouring of grief at his death seemed to stun the MSM -- they were totally unprepared for it.

Who is it, really, that's "out of touch"...


16 posted on 04/04/2005 6:16:43 PM PDT by okie01 (A slavering moron and proud member of the lynch mob, cleaning the Augean stables of MSM since 1998.)
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To: RWR8189

It is only in tearing down that they feel elevated. Sick bastards!!


17 posted on 04/04/2005 6:22:36 PM PDT by caisson71
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Seems to me these people think they can lobby for queer bishops, lesbian "priests" and some kind of "sacramental abortion" performed at the very baptisimal font. Is the Catholic Church the only one that these totally disinterested - and sometimes even hostile - atheists and agnostics think they have a right to try to change to suit them?

No one (well, except my kids) is forced to be Catholic. If you don't like the rules, go somewhere else.


18 posted on 04/04/2005 6:22:47 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy (Up yours)
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To: RWR8189

What do you expect from the Washington Bleep.


19 posted on 04/04/2005 6:23:54 PM PDT by lbt4000
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To: Erik Latranyi

Since the left doesn't recognize righteousness, they simply cannot fathom that something they can't comprehend would not change at the first sign of their displeasure.


20 posted on 04/04/2005 6:25:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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