Posted on 04/02/2005 4:39:18 PM PST by BCrago66
Pope John Paul II died this afternoon. The New York Times reports on his papacy in an article that inadvertently tells us more than the Times really wanted us to know. The Times had its criticisms of John Paul's papacy ready to go, but apparently went looking for something good to say about the Pope at the last minute:
Even as his own voice faded away, his views on the sanctity of all human life echoed unambiguously among Catholics and Christian evangelicals in the United States on issues from abortion to the end of life.
need some quote from supporter
John Paul II's admirers were as passionate as his detractors, for whom his long illness served as a symbol for what they said was a decrepit, tradition-bound papacy in need of rejuvenation and a bolder connection with modern life.
"The situation in the Catholic church is serious," Hans Kung, the eminent Swiss theologian, who was barred by from teaching in Catholic schools because of his liberal views, wrote last week. "The pope is gravely ill and deserves every compassion. But the Church has to live. ...
In my opinion, he is not the greatest pope but the most contradictory of the 20th century. A pope of many, great gifts, and of many bad decisions!"
Among liberal Catholics, he was criticized for his strong opposition to abortion, homosexuality and contraception, as well as the ordination of women and married men. Though he was never known as a strong administrator of the dense Vatican bureaucracy, he kept a centralizing hand on the selection of bishops around the world and enforced a rigid adherence to many basic church teachings among the clergy and Catholic theologians.
There you have it. The Times' criticisms are ready to go, a few good words for the Pope are an afterthought.
UPDATE: I got a screen grab of the second page of the Times article, just before they changed it to delete the "need some quote from supporter:"
Thank you !!! You always know what photos to send out!
I'm sad with you, Dear!
I know your heart is breaking Sierra!
Please take comfort in knowing he was and is a very loved man!
His memory will be etched in history as a great warrior for Jesus!
Much love sent your way!
God Bless us all!
(((((((HUGS))))))) from me to you!
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We know the score of the NYT due to moments like this. Others will follow as our archives grow. Grim FReegards....
Mrs don-o was looking for that image on line. We have had a hard copy on the wall for ages.
Thanks. Uh, it's coming up with a bit of moire' pattern. Can you share the place where you found it? d
God gave us three gifts, who in turn buried and destroyed the USSR.
God gave us Ronald Reagan, Maggie Thatcher and this wonderful Pope, Jan Pawel II/Karol Wojtyla.
Our Cold War Warriors contained the evil USSR for Decades, and these three destroyed the USSR.
Be strong Sara ~ we love you!
I thank you FRiend.
You are absolutely correct. ACT-UP was screaming and disrupting religious services at St. Patricks. The NY Times was tipped off and was actually there covering the attack.
Not a problem; glad I could help a fellow FReeper.
The Times is the paper of bird cages everywhere.
The only reason anyone could want to buy a Times on any day might be on the coupon day which pays for itself. Then you can use the paper as kindle or bird cages.
Five million? Where they all hiding then? I'd say that the combined Chaldean/Assyrian/Yezidi/Catholic population in Iraq would add up to no more than 300,000. Probably less. Any evidence for this claim?
A billion of them out there and The New York Times can't find one - sums it up really!
The American press thinks that the USA is so important to the universal church. THE USA is a drop in the bucket of the 1 BILLON Catholics in the world. My guess is the American Cardinals are being told to sit down and keep ther mouths shut at the concalve.. It was the US Bishops that gave us the HOMOSEXUAL scandal in the church, have bankrupted multiple dioceses to pay for the lawsuits, new age BS, lesbians wanting to be priests, and a GAY culture in the Catholic Church
I totally agree with your take re: American catholic priests and bishops and such---
I do know that a few from here will be at the conclave and helping to choose the next Pope, but like you said, they better not try to stick out at all...they should be glad the Vatican is letting any Americans attend after the last few years, although,
if the sex abuse was happening here in the USA, doncha kinda think it is happening elsewhere, also?
A crack about the Pope being responsible for the murder of millions in Africa because he didn't push condom use turned up on NPR. Hateful fools.
Beautiful pictures Sara. I know how sad we are to lose the Pope and can only imagine the sorrow the people in Poland feel.
This is a keeper!
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