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Tombstone at the eye of Minuteman storm
Arizona Daily Star ^
| 04.01.05
| Michael Marizco
Posted on 04/01/2005 9:57:43 PM PST by Coleus
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posted on
04/01/2005 9:57:44 PM PST
by
Coleus
To: Coleus
"Protesters in Tucson gather pots and pans to bang in protest of today's 1,000-strong Minuteman Project, a protest of the current state of border enforcement, in a 'show of solidarity' with the illegal entrants who cross the border."
It's the same thing with these people. Solidarity for them means advancing the Marxist cause, and not weighing the benefits and costs of open borders. The people coming in are looking for jobs, more money than they could make in Mexico, or wherever. To think that this is the basis of some socialist revolution is stupid.
How about letting the illegals in, and deporting these left wingers?
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posted on
04/01/2005 10:07:26 PM PST
by
Frank T
To: Coleus
Mark my words, many of the minutemen will get arrested for trying to do the right thing. The press is once again making martyrs out of the illegals.
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posted on
04/01/2005 10:20:31 PM PST
by
Supernatural
(All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
To: Coleus
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:05:12 PM PST
by
abigail2
('The difficulty of the task is no excuse for avoiding it.' George Bush Inaugural Speech '05)
To: Supernatural; gubamyster; HiJinx; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; ...
It's shaping up to be a situation where the original mission would come off well but the opposition in favor of illegal immigration (mainstream press and liberal non-think tanks) determination to screw it up may lead to unwanted tragedy. It's shameful that so many who are nominally Americans are spending so much effort opposing this project (and supporting the raiding of our wallets) rather than trying to get their representatives to enforce existing laws on behalf of citizens. The MMP is about US, the average people shouldering the continually rising costs this invasion puts on us that our representatives studiously ignore and avoid.
These volunteers (working on their own dime) deserve our support and gratitude, not castigation from the mainstream press, neocommunist groups and our very own government.
I've read a lot of garbage concerning MMP in many editorials of late and they all share the idea that our defense is best left to the government. Instead of acknowledging the governments failure to stop the invasion these editors blame us for not accepting the invasion as part of the "new status quo". I don't accept that and am very offended that they're trying to sell that line. We don't have to "accept that they're here"; THEY have to accept that we want them put back into their home countries.
I also believe these advocate's actions merit a revival of the House Un-American Activities Committee. While we don't need a stringent standard of what's American and what's not, too many groups are running roughshod over all of our basic principals and indulging in outright betrayal. It's far past time that these vermin be called to the carpet of the judicial process. Allow me to submit C.A.I.R., A.C.L.U., and L.U.L.A.C. for starters.
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:11:27 PM PST
by
NewRomeTacitus
(Or we'll all hang separately.)
To: NewRomeTacitus
The answer to what you are mentioning is to have your own video cameras there and to later make a documentary film that shows the protests by the jerks, the trouble makers and the lies of the mainstream press.
There would be good DVD sales and every tome the MS press is proven to be full of crap, their ratings, paycheck and influence dwindle.
I see the biggest problem being criminals from either side of the border making troubles.
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:15:47 PM PST
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: NewRomeTacitus
I'm sure a number of the dip-sticks on this forum who have been calling the rest of us racists, are gleefully reading the reports concerning their allies the A.C.L.U., Earth First, Derechos Humanos et al.
God speed Minutemen!
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:20:59 PM PST
by
DoughtyOne
(US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
To: DoughtyOne
Your tagline defines it all. Thanks.
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:24:07 PM PST
by
NewRomeTacitus
(Or we'll all hang separately.)
To: NewRomeTacitus
You're on a:
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:27:29 PM PST
by
wardaddy
("Finally!, A Man Worth Killing!")
To: Coleus
I wonder what the violent crime rate data will show for the month of April in that particular county... A dollar says that it'll be down at least fifty percent.
But of course, they're just coming here for jobs.
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:31:27 PM PST
by
kingu
(What is union scale wage for staging a protest anyway?)
To: A CA Guy
I'm in contact with some of the participants and they're already up on recording everything for posterity. They find it humerous that the media is more concerned with their possession of handguns than handy-cams.
The "vigilantes" are just doing the job that lazy American journalists are told not to - while it's happening.
Ready technology may be just the edge to convince the public we have a crisis happening. Dissimination of that information is still dependent on the mass media.
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:36:33 PM PST
by
NewRomeTacitus
(This MMP thread may be pulled at any time for your own good.)
To: NewRomeTacitus
Live webcam feeds would be great....
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:44:38 PM PST
by
politicalwit
(Import Poverty...Hire an Illegal Alien)
To: NewRomeTacitus
I think they should make their own DVD later that reflects the issues down there.
Could make lots more converts.
Cameras are their best protection from being set up by the press or anarchists.
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:46:11 PM PST
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: NewRomeTacitus
I've seen a few local Los Angeles broadcasts regarding this and the Minuteman folks are coming off as very measured and bright. They are very impressive and at most, the other side can claim numbers that showed weren't in the thousands.
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:47:59 PM PST
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Coleus
I suppose the Minutemen could call their bluff, and limit the carrying of firearms...say delegate every 10th person to be the one "riding shotgun" to protect the others, and have everyone else be the Binocular Brigade. Watch the MSM puff and fume when their argument goes away.
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posted on
04/01/2005 11:56:05 PM PST
by
Windcatcher
(Never compromise with a Socialist. Always go for the throat. Socialism is evil.)
To: Frank T
How about stopping ALL illegals from coming in, and increasing legal immigration?
To: kingu
Violent crime was almost non-existent in that county. Robbery is the key item people are upset about. My guess is that crime will go down to zero for a month or two...while the local cops try to figure what happened.
To: NewRomeTacitus
I've read a lot of garbage concerning MMP in many editorials of late and they all share the idea that our defense is best left to the government. Instead of acknowledging the governments failure to stop the invasion these editors blame us for not accepting the invasion as part of the "new status quo". I don't accept that and am very offended that they're trying to sell that line. We don't have to "accept that they're here"; THEY have to accept that we want them put back into their home countries Well said.
Ditto on the video and technology leverage - it's clear that tacit acceptance of the status quo is the general attitude, widespread distribution of the on scene facts may help change that.
Of course, ultimately our economy is dependent on illegal immigration, and many of the powerful and influential are disinterested in reducing it.
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posted on
04/02/2005 12:06:42 AM PST
by
xsrdx
(Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
To: politicalwit
Hidden live web cams for the border patrol would be great....
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posted on
04/02/2005 12:08:24 AM PST
by
Route101
To: xsrdx
"ultimately our economy is dependent on illegal immigration"
That's BS!
In the 53 years that i've been working in construction i've watched your beloved immigrants totally trash the industry with lazy low production and crappy work.
Eliminate welfare and you either work for a living or die and there are plenty of legal residents to do any jobs that need to be done.
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posted on
04/02/2005 12:46:47 AM PST
by
dalereed
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