Professor's sudden dismissal stuns students(Aryan Race Nation)

equinoxnews ^ | 04/01/05 | Tiffanie Johnson and Roberto Chavez

[Regulator]

Now if we can just get the colleges to fire a few hundred thousand Marxists

That's funny. Who do you think fired him?

[LauraleeBraswell]

""The guy was apparantly an excellent professor quite capable of separating his private views from required course material and of behaving decently towards all. What more can you ask?""

Yes, I think as long as his views were kept out of the classroom it was fine. Although, his views are disturbing and racist. And I abhor them.


""Perhaps Pluss's were too incendiary and disturbing for freshmen and sophomores...but upperclassmen and graduate students should certainly be exposed to such things.""

WHAT? No one should be exposed to that bigotry.

[cwb]

What's interesting is that this professor is part of the National Socialist Movement. Liberals are still having a hard time with this concept...especially since most of the anti-Semitism is coming from the Left.

[Trinity5]

"I personally have to blame the history channel. I swear that channel has a Hitler fetish."

I have a T-Shirt with the History Channel "H" symbol on it. Below it it says: :"Hitler Channel, all Hitler all the time."

I get quite a few double takes, followed with a chuckle and a "got that right!".

[familyop]

Ping!

Thanks to AJC for the ping.

I was acquainted with an old man for ten years in a narrow interest, pro-family advocacy Internet collaboration group before finding out that he was a Nazi. He remembers American planes having been shot down in his German neighborhood when he was a kid, and how his adult neighbors picked up whatever hand weapons (garden tools, and the like) they could grab to go after the downed pilots. His father fought for Germany in WWI.

He considered most neo-Nazis to be like "bulls in a China shop" and not cunning enough. His kind of recruiting was designed long ago to involve the patience of decades. But after I "outed" him, he went ballistic, accusing Americans of having exterminated "millions of German PWs in the USA," "forced the Japanese into war by cutting off their oil," "forcing Hitler into war," and so forth.

For the ten years or so preceding the exposing of him as a Nazi, his preferred topics were very much like the material issued by those who call themselves "paleo-conservatives," if not a little more subtle.

[Middle Aged White Male]

Of course he wouldn't be fired for being a closet Marxist; there are plenty of out of the closet Marxists already around. If anything he would be canned for keeping quiet...

[nathanbedford]

For precisely this reason: Even a Klan member has a right to his point. There is nothing more in your face to a liberal. And Jackson and Lee were already taken.

The rightness of a point depends not on its author's provenance.

[Mrs. Shawnlaw]

He forgot to claim he was an Indian.

[LauraleeBraswell]

""Even a Klan member has a right to his point.""

you aren't in the Klan or anything?

[familyop]

"Does anyone believe that he would have been fired for being a closet Marxist?"

Yes, if he advocated the extermination of tens of millions of farmers, or something like that. But he didn't, and that isn't the issue at hand. History professors are employed to teach objective history--not Nazi revisionism.

And BTW, why did you name your Free Republic account after the founder of the Ku Klux Klan?

[bahblahbah]

Well lets be fair. Nathan Bedford Forrest ordered the KKK to disband after they started to become violent.

[briant]

...La Raza would have made him a hero.

[familyop]

Pinging...

[briant]

"For the ten years or so preceding the exposing of him as a Nazi, his preferred topics were very much like the material issued by those who call themselves "paleo-conservatives," if not a little more subtle."

Nice slur.

[T.L.Sink]

As Victor Davis Hanson recently pointed out in an article
in the 3/14 National Review, Churchill - aside from his
idiotic and vicious remarks - was a COMPLETE academic
fraud. He, contrary to his pretenses, had no doctorate
and pretended to be Native American to give him minority
status for preferred hiring. Read the article for a complete listing of his mendacious scams. It is insulting
to compare Dr. Pruss to him. Perhaps Pruss should have
been dismissed but apparently not for reasons pertaining
to scholarship or teaching. The fact that students were
shocked indicates that any nefarious activities had
taken place OUTSIDE the classroom. To me this makes all
the difference. I have some firsthand experience with
FDU.

[liberallarry]

Yes, I think as long as his views were kept out of the classroom it was fine

Keeping them out of the classroom won't make them go away. It'll just insure that students will be totally unprepared to deal with them.

WHAT? No one should be exposed to that bigotry.

"Bigotry" exists and is a powerful force in human affairs. It always has been. The question is how to deal with it. The professor doesn't think of himself as a bigot. He thinks he's a realist defending civilized values. It's you who become the bigot if you deny him freedom of speech - especially so if that right is exercised in a sophisticated environment where all assertions can be challanged and all listeners are students of social organization.

[demnomo]

Yeah, I guess professors who extoll the genocidal virtues of Uncle Joe Stalin and socialism/communism get a free pass, if not a big fat raise, from most universities.

[nathanbedford]

Some hours ago, now yesterday by my time here, I published this note quite unsuspecting that it would come in handy today to protect my reputation:

It's the end of the world, and I feel fine Posted by nathanbedford to Ursus arctos horribilis On News/Activism 04/01/2005 1:04:10 PM EST · 28 of 28

Well Grizz, I would not like to denigrate my namesake but I hold Jackson and Lee in higher regard. Jackson, because he dominated every theatre in which he appeared and some in which he merely threatened to appear. So, of course, did Forrest but Jackson's genius nearly changed the outcome of the war. Lee, because he was clearly the sublimest individual to emerge from the ultimately senseless conflict. He was the South. His uncanny ability to divine his adversary's intentions certainly prolonged the war. Apart from the final throw at Gettysburg, it is hard to fault his generalship which was a marvel of improvisation and concentration of utterly meager resources. Against all odds, he damn near won it.

No stain of reproach should ever touch either Jackson or Lee in their dealings with the Negro race for they behaved most admirably toward them. Jackson taught black sunday school and Lee manumitted his family's slaves. Sadly, this observation does not hold for the whole of Forrest's life but in his defense it should be noted that he sought to disband the Klan when it spun out of control.

No one can denigrate Forrest's genius but the other two are the corporeal embodiments of the beau ideal of a southern paladin. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375756/posts

Then, in responce to hchutch I posted the following just a short time ago which reveals why I think it is important to be so un PC that one should ride as it were with Forrest:

Time to part company

Posted by nathanbedford to hchutch

On News/Activism 04/01/2005 7:23:45 PM EST · 356 of 431

"I had to wonder what has happened to the conservative movement when the threads were allowed to spiral so out of control. The concept of euthanasia is repulsive and disgusting, but it does not excuse allowing the threads to spin out of control"

Your entire lament is grounded in a revulsion against boorish behavior (which I share) or a call for more censorship - a call which finds no resonance with me. It is not clear which deficiency prompts your withdrawal. I would simply state my position that choking off the free exchange of ideas merely to protect the subjective sensitivities of some posters is a practice that ultimately will lead to the destruction of all that is good about this forum.

Are we naught but blushing virgins who cannot be confronted with a pin up on the warehouse wall lest we sue for sexual harassment? No, the subjective feelings of a class of victims is too nice a basis upon which to order society. So it must be here at Free Republic: Every time one of us acts boorishly, he advances the cause of the left. But every time we censor a point of view, Free Republic becomes less than it was destined to be.

I do not blush anymore and I certainly am no virgin, so I say, speak out! Let us hear all sides. My conservatism is strong enough to survive the fatuities of the left and my person has integrity enough to endure a few indignities without turning like a child to the moderator and crying "troll."

So, no, I am not a member of the Klan. But if I were, would you have me stripped of my franchise or only of the right to speak out on FreeRepublic? I think you both are bigger than that.

[Noachian]

What's interesting is that this professor is part of the National Socialist Movement. Liberals are still having a hard time with this concept...especially since most of the anti-Semitism is coming from the Left.

Although the NAZIs were portrayed as ultra right wing they were definitely a left wing "Socialist" organization.

NAZIs advocated total control of society, elimination of private property, nationalization of business, and dictatorial control of government. None of this can be considered right wing as we know it.

The Communists were the competitors of the NAZIs, and they advocated much of the same things, which is why both groups hated each other. The Soviet "Socialists" instituted much of the NAZI "Socialist's" ideals and look where it got them. So, both the NAZIs and the Communists were Socialists, both were left wing radical groups, and both failed.

When put in perspective the anti-semitism of the Socialist Left isn't hard to understand, since the Left has historical ideological ties to both NAZIs and Communists.