Posted on 03/31/2005 5:37:12 PM PST by neutrino
The courts ordered all water and nourishment to be withheld from Terri Schiavo. This was more that removal of the feeding tube - no one was permitted to give her a drink of water or a crumb of bread.
As we know, she survived for 13 days. Presumably, it was known that she was in pain, since she was given morphine.
The question is coming. First, a small disclaimer - I don't think Terri Schiavo should have been killed.
Question: since the court's order was, in essence, an order to kill her, would it not have been kinder to have ordered her execution by lethal injection, hanging, or in the electric chair? She would have had a quick death instead of a slow death by dehydration and starvation.
Bonus question: Is being disabled now a capital crime?
My view FWIW - Satan is laughing, God isn't. In time, those who rejoice will understand, and regret. God has forever - the misguided ones don't. Guide your heart towards prayer whenever you feel the hatred and anger building up.
Morris declares the pro-life movement dead?! Is this FR or "Make Me Laugh"?!
I will say this to the original question: you are making the arguments the euthanasia advocates WANT you to make. "We shouldn't starve and dehydrate disabled people...it would be so much more humane to give them a lethal injection". The proverbial "playing into their hands". This issue MUST continue after Terri's death. Because this is about life defined by "quality". Ultimately this will be about the new eugenics. Already women abort children with defects. Already we starve the disabled. Already wanted care is denied under the guise of "futility". Already we ration health care. And we're behind the rest of the so-called enlightened world.
I am profoundly afraid for the future.
I must (respectfully) disagree. If the courts can create what is, in essence, a death sentence in one way, why cannot they do the same thing in another way?
More pointedly, what is the difference between killing Terri by not letting her have a drink and some other method?
If there's no difference, where can the courts go with this? If there is a difference, what is it?
Your fate and mine depends on the answer.
The Terri Schiavo case should be a warning to us all. As for myself, I am planning to try and make friends with as many judges as I can because it is now apparent that these robed sunsabitches have gained life and death powers over all of us. There's a lot of these crooked bastards wearing robes who are fully capable of developing a blood lust now that one of their slimy brethren has gotten away with murder. We see it every day in ruling after ruling as the bastards free murderers, terrorists and shades of other criminals while making it harder and harder on honest, law-abiding people. I hate to toady up to the bastards but I am following Darwin's first law. Shades of Torquemado!
Here's a tip: If you want to post a vanity stating what has already been said about 5,000 times, with no additional insight, just don't do it.
I just hope that the purveyors of this capital crime of killing the handicapped meets their just rewards
I am most troubled about this than many would know in the matter of my own senses i feel as if my guts have been ripped from me never in my whole 45 years did i ever think it would come to this in these United States of America . when a woman or man for that matter could be starved to death under the watchful eye of a whole country and not even a President can stop an out of control judiciary
Welcome to the Oligarchy
Since Terri wasn't brain dead, what happened to her was euthanasia, and as such should have been done in a more humane way -- taking no chances that she would suffer.
I thought euthanasia was illegal in the U.S. I guess it's neither legal nor illegal -- how can that be?
This situation reminds me of the story, The Emperor's New Clothes.
And now a Republican administration will finish the work of a Democratic administration. This is how environmental policy should work.
You say..."Here's a tip: If you want to post a vanity stating what has already been said about 5,000 times, with no additional insight, just don't do it."
Heres a tip for you as well...44 people on this thread dont seem to mind all that much that he did.
I'm FOR capital punishment.
A 8-year boy in our neighbor was kidnapped and murdered and his remains weren't found for 9 months. His murderer confessed and plead guilty and received the death penaly. The killer, Perry Austin, asked to be moved ahead of the line so as to hurry-up his execution. All fine and good!
Then on the DAY of his execution, the folks who give free legal advise, counseling, etc. etc. visited him and persuaded him to accept the automatical APPEAL, which he is entitled -- but which he originally refused until these liberal anti-death penalty people talked him into appealing.
Now, we the tax payers have to pay to feed and clothe and care of and entertain him until we go through the process to AGAIN give him the dealth penalty.
What a pity that these noble (sarcasm off) people weren't so concerned with the life of Terri.
Question: since the court's order was, in essence, an order to kill her, would it not have been kinder to have ordered her execution by lethal injection, hanging, or in the electric chair? She would have had a quick death instead of a slow death by dehydration and starvation.
Indeed. But I doubt it would have provided the incentive for folks to get their "Living" wills in order and start lobbying for a more Humane Society style approach to offing folks in lieu of the starvation already legal in all 50 states.
The court order to kill Terri was not 'in essence' it was 'in fact'....
Judge George Greer's order stated that, "the guardian, Michael Schiavo SHALL have the feeding tube of the ward, Theresa Schiavo removed at 1PM on March 18, 2005."
And because of that order, Judge George Greer should be tried for murder for causing the starvation death of an innocent woman......
OJs Scumbag Lawyer Johnny Cochran died of an inoperable brain tumor.....
God Will Not Be Mocked
You strike an important nerve: "... a whole country and not even a President can stop an out of control judiciary." I would respectfully note that the verb "can" is infact the wrong word; will would seem more appropriate since two other branches of OUR GOVERNMENT could have met the issue in Constitutional crisis and made a large contribution in bringing the out of control and unholy tyrannical judiciary into the 'co-equal' ring.
That is why I included it. Terri Schindler Shiavo's death is irrelevant with respect to holding one or the other principled position.
Release of ME evidence may lead to factual information which causes those straddling the fence to jump down on one side or the other. Or for the less resolute, it may lead to some fence jumping. For the principled people, someone is destined to be most unhappy or similarly distressed at the findings in that report.
Wow. A clairvoyant. :-)
I'm aware of allegations.
Based solely on the images of Michael Schiavo presented to us via the media, he sure looks like an insensitive, ego centric monster. But, what appears to be is not always what is.
I would have given Terri Schindler back to her parents.
There is no moral enigma, no moral conundrum, no moral dilemma ... Michael Schiavo proved his utter contepmt for Terri when he forced neglect for more than a deacde.
I hear you. Now, prove it.
The ME's report may just do that.
A bizarro POS.
How do you all stand on the death penalty?
Where do YOU stand???
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