Scientologists
and Bush turned me into a
newt! (I got better . . .)
Posted on 03/31/2005 11:49:50 AM PST by Thanatos
That I don't get, is that if a person in a PVS has no brain, no feeling, no thoughts, no nothing; then how is providig thier body with food and water in any sense cruel? Can you explain that?
Bump
Terri's "husband!” That adulterous swine! So much for the sanctity of marriage. He had no respect for her or their marriage. His actions are evident.
NOBODY will answer my point. That is telling.
NONE of us would want to be in Terri Schiavo's place (while she was alive). NOBODY would want to live like that past even a year or so. Doesn't it mean anything to all the 'Christians' that a soul was trapped in a state worse than death?
Why will no one address this? Why is mercy killing such an awful sin? It was once considered the right thing to do. Now ... we are so civilized and technically advanced ... we can force someone into a living hell for decades and it doesn't bother anyone.
I'm living in a nightmare. Surrounded by what I thought were my compatriots and most of them would put me in a decades long living death if they got the chance.
You say nobody would want to be in that state but, if you don't even know what state you are in cause you are brain dead then what's the problem?
I'll tell you why. Because once you determine that someone is living in a state that calls for a "mercy killing," you've opened the door for a eugenics-based culture in which anything short of "perfection" is seen as a handicap of some sort. Just think of the rationale . . .
1. People who are [INSERT RACE OR ETHNICITY HERE] are five times more likely to grow up poor, ten times more likely to end up in prison, etc., etc.
2. Nobody would ever want to grow up poor, imprisoned, etc.
3. Therefore, all children of this race or ethnicity should be starved to death as infants in order to save them from this misery.
4. That is, after all, the "compassionate" thing to do -- isn't it?
In a country where "homosexual marriage" is not so far-fetched, I guess there's nothing wrong with Michael Schiavo bringing a date -- and their two illegitimate children -- to his wife's funeral.
I didn't think I could laugh tonight.
What a beautiful post.
The euthanasists have taken over for the Weimar Republic's adoption of this swarmy philosophy....they have blinded the eyes of our justice system to the SPIRIT of the LAW, and substituted the LETTER of the LAW...causing the most twisted literal 'execution' of an innocent with the finding of fact by one man.
Horrific.
Our founding fathers would be LIVID if they had had to witness this perversion of justice.
On that note, I have to get to bed soon. I've got a long day tomorrow, and since the weather is supposed to be bad I'm gonna just slack off for the weekend.
Hope to see you here tomorrow night. Thanks for the great posts and the interesting discussions!
AC
First off, you are WAY overstepping when you say that NONE of us would want to go on like that and EVERYONE has openly admitted to their friends and family, blah blah blah....
In fact, the vast majority of living wills I've seen refer to "extraordinary means" but specifically exclude nutrition and hydration. People simply aren't willing to take that additional step.
What kind of sick and twisted perversion of life do you have to call starving and dehydrating a merely disabled person "loving compassion" and "right and moral". Don't you dare preach morality to us!
Let me tell you a story that I have told over and over and I cannot get ONE person who has posted in favor of killing Terri to respond to:
Very close friends of mine have a son who suffered brain damage at birth. The umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck. He appears EXACTLY like Terri Schiavo did and reacts to his environment in EXACTLY the same way.
Should his parents kill him because they are tired of pushing his wheelchair through Disney World on their family vacations? Would the merciful and moral thing to do be to affirmatively kill their child because of an unfortunate circumstance at birth? Or do they accept this child given to them by God and give him the most comfortable, loving environment they can until his NATURAL death?
And yes, he relies on a feeding tube.
You are so right. What was supposed to be the court-sanctioned method to rid oneself of a medical inconvenience called "pregnancy" early on has become the act of jamming scissors into the skull of a nine month in utero human being seconds before birth.
Slippery slope, indeed!
Have a good day tomorrow. See you then.
"The quote sounds quite different from your interpretation, IMHO, I'm not sure that mine is the one that is distorted."
Maybe I can clarify it for you. That quote clearly does not say that God ordered the events of 9-11, or that He personally designed and carried them out to punish America for abortion.
The quote says: "the abortionists have got to bear some burdon for this....I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen".
As a Christian who has read and studied the Bible many, many times, to me Falwell's warning does not mean that God has taken up arms and attacked us. As in the Bible verse below, it means that God has turned His protective eyes away from America because we displease Him by killing millions of His children in the womb, and by legalizing homosexuality.
In short, God will not bless a country that elevates sin to the level of "human rights". We can't expect His protection under these circumstances. It's like paying for a prostitute and asking God to protect you from STDs. So in this regard I totally agree with Mr. Falwell's admonition.
The abominations of Nazism & Liberal-Socialism have many similarities as well as sharing the same roots.
"...I am beginning to believe it's whole 'ethos' is about the ultimate destruction of Humanity - all roads seem to point there; falling birth rates, euthanasia, appeasement of evil.. the list goes on!"
If we -- as a race -- are still capable of interpreting the literal meaning of words anymore?
Than we are compelled to agree what the acronym NAZI originally stood for.
"Nationalist Socialist Party (of Germany).
And therein tells the tale.
It would do us all well to think long & hard about that in light of the repeated attempts to redefine the meanings of words in our language, eh?
...do us well, indeed.
Scientologists
and Bush turned me into a
newt! (I got better . . .)
I trust you are writing from your underground bunker in Montana.
And by the way, I don't want to alarm you, but I heard from an inside source here at FR that the FBI is now seeking to declare you, yes you, to be in a persistent vegetative state. Whatever you do, don't fall asleep.
It must be hard for you to see well with your head in the sand like that...or is it up some other place?
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