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Live Thread: President's Remarks on Terri's Death
various | 3/31/2005 | Pyro7480

Posted on 03/31/2005 8:05:44 AM PST by Pyro7480

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To: oldcomputerguy

I didn't see your reply about why she was denied palliative care or water. Is that legal? Is it right? Removing the feeding tube was horrible. I don't understand what a device being complicated has to do with anything. A respirator is complicated... should it not have been used for Christopher Reeve? This isn't a technical issue, it's a moral issue. Deliberately starving someone is evil. Period.


421 posted on 03/31/2005 9:50:59 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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To: hushpad

It's not just Jeb or George Bush. The Executive and Legislative branches, on all levels, has ceded power to the Judicial branch. It didn't start when either of them took office. They are simply the latest office holders to accept this situation as "Constitutional."


422 posted on 03/31/2005 9:52:09 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
"That analogy only works if the Mississippi state court ruled that lynching aren't murder as long as a majority of Klansmen agree they're being merciful to their victim."

Going going gone, out of the ball park. I can't think of anything FDR did in his 4 terms of office and during a World War that is a disgraceful as this. Even leaving the troops on Bataan to die was not as bad as sitting around and watching a cool blooded horrific murder. Morality bankrupt is an understatement.

423 posted on 03/31/2005 9:53:27 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb
Delay, whom I used to greatly respect, is a coward too. Congress issued a subpoena commanding Terry to appears last Monday, WHY THE HELL DID NOT CONGRESS ENFORCE THAT SUBPOENA!. Because it was a dog and pony show, lip service. Shame, shame on you Delay. and Tom, I know a lot of your voters. I will be telling them about you.

Yep. Everyone on here that says Bush had to follow the "rule of law", that those who criticize him are hypocrites, well, they don't talk too much about this do they?

The judiciary did NOT follow the Rule of Law - Neither did Congress enforce their law - and BUSH STOOD IDLY BY, SILENT....SILENT AS A GRAVE!
424 posted on 03/31/2005 9:53:39 AM PST by hushpad (There can be no Social Security without Homeland Security.)
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To: concerned about politics

Youre welcome....yes it will


425 posted on 03/31/2005 9:53:53 AM PST by kingattax (If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you read all right ?)
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To: oldcomputerguy

I was not referring to this country in my remark. I was referring to the country called "Kingdom of Heaven".


426 posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:37 AM PST by Aliska
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To: concerned about politics

"This is how Hitler got started. He propagandized the acceptance of getting rid of "those not worthy of life". He started with the invalid elderly, went to the disabled, then the Jews, then those without blond hair and blue eyes - even though he was brown/black haired with brown eyes!"



I share your sentiment, but to be accurate, Hitler actually had blue eyes (and dark hair, of course).


427 posted on 03/31/2005 9:55:10 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: TigersEye

Don't forget George "ferret-face" Felos as one of the circle of trusted murderers. This lawyer makes me want to vomit with his "euthanasia - it doesn't hurt to die crapola". Next time we have a hostage crisis, let's offer to trade Michael Shiavo, Judge Greer and George Felos for the hostages...


428 posted on 03/31/2005 9:55:16 AM PST by princess leah (\)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

She was denied food and water as a legal issue. The argument thread has been that she was never on artificial life support, therefore her wishes as determined in court should not apply. My point was the the complexity of the feeding tube qualifies as artificial life support. Reeve wanted it, a court determined Terri did not want it, get it?


429 posted on 03/31/2005 9:56:03 AM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: Gelato

"Would you be defending their actions if they were Democrats?"

Any president, dem or repub would not be to blame for this.


430 posted on 03/31/2005 9:56:52 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

"I will pray for you."

Good, I'll take all I can get.


431 posted on 03/31/2005 9:57:17 AM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: Juan Medén; All

Every day, young men and women are putting their lives on the line defending the Constitution of the United States.

Those of you demanding that George Bush should have overstepped his authority for Terri, are, in essence, treating the Constitution as so much toilet paper, and are demeaning the sacrifice made every day by U.S. troops.


432 posted on 03/31/2005 9:57:59 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: hushpad
The President and Congress have the authority to reign in the judiciary.

By the checks and balances built into the system, they have the ability to appoint judges who support their point of view. They cannot just disobey them unless you believe in a President with dictatorial powers. I don't. I think the federal government has limited powers -- only those granted to them by the Constitution. It is the Democrats who argue for an infinitely powerful Presidency who can right every wrong and change every diaper. If you want the judiciary reigned in, you need to support an executive and legislature who would appoint judges who also believe in limited powers. If you support Democrats who believe in unlimited government and who appoint judges who also believe in unlimited government, then you can't be surprised if you get unlimited government.

They have the support of We The People.

Not on this issue. 80% of people surveyed support the decision to kill Terri.

433 posted on 03/31/2005 9:58:25 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: EternalVigilance
I talked with law enforcement on scene, and they laughed at the idea that they would ignore the order of the top law enforcement officer in the state.

Worth repeating.

434 posted on 03/31/2005 9:58:29 AM PST by Gelato
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To: TigersEye
It's not just Jeb or George Bush. The Executive and Legislative branches, on all levels, has ceded power to the Judicial branch. It didn't start when either of them took office. They are simply the latest office holders to accept this situation as "Constitutional."

I agree this did not start with Jeb or George, but I really expected more when I voted for Bush. Bush was the one who spoke so eloquently about the rule of law - then stood silent when it was broken.

And Jeb, I do not know much about him, I live in Texas, my personal observation is that FLORIDA IS A MESS in more ways than one, and Jeb is the Governor there.

I'm beginning to believe that the Bush Brothers are incompetent and speak with forked tongues.
435 posted on 03/31/2005 9:58:48 AM PST by hushpad (There can be no Social Security without Homeland Security.)
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To: princess leah

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone as murderers. The fact is that the state sanctioned the death of an innocent woman who was not otherwise dying. "We the people" are the state.


436 posted on 03/31/2005 9:59:02 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: Walkin Man
They did sent pro-abort Jessie Jackson down there to stir the pot some more though...

Yeah, they did. And the Governor kissed his rear end on both cheeks. Even had a press conference with him.

But he wouldn't see Alan Keyes, who had the brief that outlined the constitutional issues at stake here.

Jeb said he wanted to find a way to save Terri, but that was a lie. Events prove it. What he really wanted was a way to minimize damage to himself while doing nothing that mattered.

437 posted on 03/31/2005 9:59:14 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: PhiKapMom
from another thread

"Then man law conflicts with natural law or devine law it is no longer law. It is tyranny"

438 posted on 03/31/2005 9:59:23 AM PST by jpsb
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To: COEXERJ145
Apparently there are some on FR who have no regard for the rule of law.

The rule of law, and the rule by judges are not the same thing. That is what the hoohah is all about.

Each branch is supposed to be restrained by the law as written, most especially the highest law, the Constitution of the United States, and that of a particular state if applicable. Increasingly the Judges and Justices, Congresscritters and Presidents too, are ignoring that highest law, and just doing whatever strikes their fancy.

439 posted on 03/31/2005 9:59:29 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: princess leah
felos,the ghoulish little rodent, is have a "gloat-a-thon" press conference at 2:30 PM EST.

So far i've counted 10 times that Fox has done a graphic on it. Must be REAL important < /sarc>

i emailed FOX to 'thank' them for giving us one more chance to "savor" the face of death (felos)

comments@foxnews.com

440 posted on 03/31/2005 9:59:34 AM PST by kingattax (If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you read all right ?)
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