Live Thread: President's Remarks on Terri's Death

various | 3/31/2005 | Pyro7480

[Pyro7480]

President Bush will make remarks on the death of Terri Schindler (Schiavo) at 11:40 am EST.

[Gelato]

It's time people understand that the executive branch is the enforcer of laws, not the judicial branch.

You are correct. The Florida Constitution is, if anything, even more clear on that point.

Constitution of Florida

ARTICLE II

SECTION 1. Governor.-- (a) The supreme executive power shall be vested in a governor, who shall be commander-in-chief of all military forces of the state not in active service of the United States.

ARTICLE II

SECTION 3. Branches of government.--The powers of the state government shall be divided into legislative, executive and judicial branches. No person belonging to one branch shall exercise any powers appertaining to either of the other branches unless expressly provided herein.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?Mode=Constitution&Submenu=3&Tab=statutes#A02S02

In other words, one branch cannot use a power belonging to aother.

The Florida Constitution is also stronger in the sense that it specifically protects the unalienable right to life.

SECTION 2. Basic rights.--All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property; except that the ownership, inheritance, disposition and possession of real property by aliens ineligible for citizenship may be regulated or prohibited by law. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or physical disability.

What good are these words, if all power to take those rights away lies in the hands of a branch of government?

[babygene]

"I just hope he doesn't say something like "I did everything I could.""

It seems to me our leaders did an excellent job of FOLLOWING a corrupt and out of control judiciary...

[Willie Green]

How about you keep the immigration crap to the countless immigration threads.

Pro-life conservatives are too often dismissed as "unappeasable" single-issue voters.
I prefer to look at the Big Picture, and how all the pieces fit together.

[hiredhand]

Yep. That be the one. There's gonna be some BAD fallout on account of this.

[FreedomCalls]

Somebody please tell me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong.

[nikos1121]

"In response to the killing of Terry Shiavo, I went out and bought Mark Levin's book, Men in Black. I suggest that everyone do the same and prepare themselves for the coming fight over the judiciary appointments. The best thing that we can do for Terry Shiavo is to give her life new meaning in our fight to reform the courts."

I started reading it last week. I agree. We should spread this word. This is the real legacy of Terri's death and I feel bad to put it in such an insensitive way. But it is ironic that with all talk of abusive courts rulings and activist judges.. a helpless little woman and her insensitive loser husband does more to open our eyes to it than anything else.

Please read the book. And PLEASE all of us at FR please support our president. Stop with the cheap shots against him.

[k2blader]

Yeah it was like three sentences, and then he moved on to the intelligence commission report.

Thanks for the info.. :-(

[justshutupandtakeit]

This disaster will be hurting the GOP for some time and I fear it will undermine efforts to ban homo marriage, defeat the filabusters and get more conservatives on the Court. Plus, it has shown a gleeful willingness to throw away almost every conservative belief for the right to "life"

This has sickened me from the beginning as people seem to have lost sight of so much for so little.

[TheDon]

After the pro-death spin and lies have receded, there will be a country wide awakening to the slaughtering of the innocents going on in the U.S. today.

Yep, Florida and California have the same type of euthanasia laws. They must be removed from the law.

[Publius Maximus]

In Florida, have 2 branches of government at two levels -- the federal level and the state level -- that are controlled by the party of life. Yet at both levels both branches were useless against the injustice permitted by the courts. Something, somewhere has gone wrong... and I venture to guess after the number of years our "majorities" have had to get the job done, the sad fact is they dropped the ball more often than they've taken any hoop shots.

Just look at what a joke the Social Security debate is becoming. Tax reform? Right! And don't even get me started on immigration.

The sad fact is, our Republican majorities are impotent on the most important issues, if not (in the case of immigration) complicit in the problem. I hate to say that, because I really wanted to believe in them. I was elated when we "won" the elections in recent years and ostensibly consolidated power.

But here we are: Impotent to protect our industries. Impotent to remove and reform a burdensome tax code. Impotent to reign in the abuse of torts. Impotent to avert finanaical disaster in the case of Social Security. Impotent to protect our borders. Impotent even to overturn a clearly unconsitutional ruling (Roe v. Wade) just because most of our fellow citizens apparently like the outcome. And now, as a sort of reductio ad absurdam of the whole situation, impotent to save one innocent woman from an unjust death at the hands of a slimey husband and a cabal of blood-thirsty lawyers who want the law to support some penumbral "right to die" over the Constitutionally enumerated right to life.

What, precisely, is the use of politics if you can achieve all that supposed power and yet be impotent to affect change on the issues that animated you to vote in the first place?

OK, we freed Afghanistan and Iraq and are pouring billions into propping up their transition to "democracy". yet we are losing the very "Republic" for which we once stood all the while, not even incrementally anymore, but wholesale to the culture of death.

[EternalVigilance]

Article One, Section Two of the Florida constitution echoes the Fifth Amendment prohibition on killing innocent citizens. But it goes a little further by including disabled persons specifically.

And the ruling legal and political elites continue to pretend that that fundamental law doesn't even exist. It's maddening.

[concerned about politics]

"The army of the Antichrist will build on one side, the army of God on the other"

I think you need a good nights rest.

It's true. There are natural, eternal human truths whether you believe in God or not. The 10 Commandment are designed to control human nature. When they're removed, their opposites move in to fill the void.
For example, in this case: Thou shall not murder/ Thou shall not give false testimony/ Thou shall not covet they neighbors goods $. If this wisdom were allowed to be understood, the Terri case would have been easily solved in a pro-truth manner. Every case would be truth- oriented. It would be written in the hearts of those involved in the legal system.
There are those who would prefer these laws not be known. It destroys their power hungry or self- oriented agenda. The opposite of the 10 Commandments ARE the liberal agenda.

[oldcomputerguy]

" You know I see the exact and I mean EXACT same quotes on DU all the time. Amazing isn't it(Nazi's).

This was my point when I said the religious right may be the ultimate loser over this issue. Extremism on any matter turns the majority off. The old bromide about absolute power corrupting comes to mind. I would not be surprised to see people in the majority reevaluating just how much religion controls a prospective candidates life in future elections.

[TenthAmendmentChampion]

The law was changed in 1999 to classify a feeding tube as an "extraordinary means of support" (I don't know the exact wording) by the Florida legislature, and Jeb Bush signed it. George Felos lobbied hard for it and got it. That is the true "Terri's Law."

[Havoc]

Why, so you can feel better about not being outraged? So people will think better of republicans who did nothing.
So this doesn't look so bad. Why. The politicians signed off in the hour Terri needed them. They signed off in the hour a lot of people needed them with regard to any number of issues.
But this one overstepped a line.

[k2blader]

And the ruling legal and political elites continue to pretend that that fundamental law doesn't even exist. It's maddening.

They probably took a poll..

[nikos1121]

"The BUSH BROTHERS allowed SWAMP JUDGE to stop them."

You're entitled to your opinion but you're wrong. There's a big picture and a little one. Our president must see the big picture. He's taking a hit now, but in the long run his long term plan for judicial reform will succeed providing we cease to undermine him.

[johnb838]

I've ordered it.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Hey I can't prevent you from being wrong.

[kingattax]

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