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Republicans have way to protest party's takeover by religious right
Omaha World Herald/Omaha.com ^ | 3-27-05 | Harold Andersen

Posted on 03/30/2005 8:45:00 AM PST by stan_sipple

the (relatively silent) majority of Americans feel(s) that the most compassionate treatment for Terri Schiavo - as well as the proper legal course of action - is to let her vegetative existence end, as advocated by her legal guardian, her husband.

For Republicans who consider their party a captive of the religious right on matters like medical research and right-to-die legislation and now legislative intrusion into the judicial system, there is a way to at least feel more comfortable with their political consciences.

That way is to leave a party whose leadership is currently attempting to leave behind in the dust of American constitutional history the principle of separation of powers that has served this country well for more than 200 years.

the religious conservatives deeply involved in the case believe in an afterlife - eternal life in circumstances considerably more appealing than lying in a hospital bed in a vegetative state for 15 years, being kept alive by food and liquids fed into your body through a hole in your abdomen.

Wouldn't the more compassionate course be to release Terri from a vegetative existence in the belief you are sending her on to a better life after death?

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To: G.Mason; Doc Savage

"Doc Savage went over the bend a while back. "

That's something I'd be unwilling to say. I suppose anyone could be brought to the point of advocating violence. I'm just really, really tired of seeing so many posts that do so in these particular threads.

If you go through the 120+ threads on the Schiavo topic, and count the number of pulled replies, it's clear that there have been a lot of such posts made.

Advocating violence against people because of what they think or say is simply wrong. It's not tolerated here on Free Republic, nor should it be tolerated anywhere.


81 posted on 03/30/2005 9:44:18 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Modernman

My grandmother has alzheimers, should we just stop feeding her?


82 posted on 03/30/2005 9:45:20 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (The Terri issue is legally complicated, but not the moral issue. I want to be on the side of life.)
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To: Modernman
You're right, the Pope is still mentally aware....so is Terri S A whole host of courts and medical experts disagree.

Because Judge Greer refused to accept testimony of all those to the contrary. There have twice as many who filed affidavits that she IS mentally aware, nurses who worked with her, doctors, etc. There are video tapes of her responding to various people talking to her, etc. that the press isn't showing. The whole host of courts consist of something like 3 that have been petitioned 19 times with the same results over and over
83 posted on 03/30/2005 9:45:43 AM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: G.Mason
LOL, Ve hfave places fur people vike you.


84 posted on 03/30/2005 9:48:33 AM PST by jpsb
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To: yellowdoghunter
My grandmother has alzheimers, should we just stop feeding her?

Have the parts of her brain that deal with everything other than automatic functions liquified?

85 posted on 03/30/2005 9:50:27 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Modernman

Is Terri human?


86 posted on 03/30/2005 9:50:58 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb
Is Terri human?

Sure. A human who is in a PVS.

87 posted on 03/30/2005 9:52:04 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: VaBarrister
who I'm sure we can all agree are better representatives of the people than Congress

No, sorry, I don't agree. Congress is elected by the citizenry every two years. If they are not 'representative' of the will of the people, then the people have no one but themselves to blame.

88 posted on 03/30/2005 9:54:23 AM PST by malakhi
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To: Modernman
If she is human, when by who's authority do you propose to use to deny a human thier right to life?
89 posted on 03/30/2005 9:55:02 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Modernman

Yes, just got the latest MRI on Monday. Almost all of it is liquid. So, should we stop feeding her?


90 posted on 03/30/2005 9:56:24 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (The Terri issue is legally complicated, but not the moral issue. I want to be on the side of life.)
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To: malakhi

I was only talking about this in terms of who created the Constitution and that it was the people through the constitutional conventions and not Congress. Let us not forget that the constitution should trump any current will of the people that is not consistent with it. But, as a general matter, I do think state legislatures are more closely connected to the will of the people.


91 posted on 03/30/2005 9:57:53 AM PST by VaBarrister
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To: jpsb

You know a smart man once said we must hang together or we shall surely hang separately.


I am not a practicing christian, but I do believe in God.

I believe Terry should live and killers under 18 should die.

I despise abortion and those who fight for it as if it were an actual right in the Constitution.

I believe in a strong military, and a strong foreign policy to guide that military.

I believe in border security. The minutemen are patriots
not vigilantes Mr President.

I believe in low taxes, but I like my roads and Police there when I need them.

I am sick of the homosexual agenda yet I still don't see how two queers getting married affects me one way or the other.

I think my privacy is the be all and end all of my freedoms. Religious zealouts stay out of mine and the wifes' bedroom. Liberal nutcases, stay out of my wallet.

I might be a little socially liberal, yes I like to party more than I should and it gets pretty wild (see Jerry Springer) but as an American, it's not your business, and as a Christian, it is not your place to judge.

I do not want to be "laid to rest" in pristine, great physical shape, not having ever truly lived. I am going to hook slide in with a Jagermeister in one hand, a cigar in the other, screaming at the top of my lungs, "WHOO HOO, WHAT A RIDE!!!"


92 posted on 03/30/2005 9:58:55 AM PST by trubluolyguy ("If the enemy is in range, so are you")
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To: TexasTaysor
The Pope is now on a feed tube and unable to speak or swallow foods......so by their standards, he should be starved to death too. According to their standards, he is now "sub-human"

You are being silly. The Pope is conscious. Terri isnt.

93 posted on 03/30/2005 9:58:57 AM PST by Dave S
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To: stan_sipple; geedee; Blurblogger; Jay777; Salvation; NYer; Just mythoughts; Libloather; ...
Democracy is all about proving its exponents are on God's side......not that democracy is on God's side.

Unfortunately for RINOS and their acolytes, they still do not understand that the political climate has changed dramatically. Tearing down Christian tenets as a way to get elected now means undermining democracy (which is permanently and irrevocably built upon the foundations of Christianity).

The Founders presupposed then that the government would not have to tell people what do to b/c their religious faith properly informed them as to right and wrong.

Our sacrosanct rule of law is based on the Ten Commandments and other universal Christian truths. The Founders could not have envisioned the ugliness of individuals like RINO's and the Christian-hating ACLU, obsessively compelled to tear down America's religious foundation.

"Christianity is part of the Common, or Natural Law. Therefore it is Christianity that is the basis of our government. Religion of any other type is not synonymous with the American experience of Liberty!" Justice James Wilson signer of the Declaration, the Constitution, Original Justice on the U. S. Supreme Court, and the father of the first organized legal training in America.

"It is the duty as well as the privilege and interest for our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians to be their representatives, as this is a Christian republic." Justice John Jay Supreme Court Justice

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was not founded by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum prosperity, and freedom of worship here." Patrick Henry

94 posted on 03/30/2005 9:59:34 AM PST by Liz ("There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men." Edmund Burke)
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To: stan_sipple

Hell Im not going to leave. If anything I work to toss the zealots like Randall Terry and Larry Klayman out. They were Democrats or sit at homes and wait for the 2nd coming folk until Reagan grabbed them up in the 80's.


95 posted on 03/30/2005 10:01:29 AM PST by Dave S
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To: trubluolyguy

Bump to everything you said!


96 posted on 03/30/2005 10:01:40 AM PST by jpsb
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To: afraidfortherepublic
And Joan Kennedy was found this morning lying on a street in Boston unconscious with a broken shoulder. She's a ward of her children. Do you suppose they'll have her care yanked?

I'll bet they will. But it will be covered up so well that we'll never hear about it.

97 posted on 03/30/2005 10:01:49 AM PST by Aarchaeus
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To: Liz

If true then why were the founding fathers Deists? Huh?


98 posted on 03/30/2005 10:04:34 AM PST by Dave S
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To: trubluolyguy

guess my 89 was to hard of a question.


99 posted on 03/30/2005 10:06:45 AM PST by jpsb
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To: redgolum
I can see it here in FR. The religious right is treated at times like the minorities are in the DNC.

ROFL!!!
That's just plain silly. The religious right is dominating this once conservative forum.
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100 posted on 03/30/2005 10:06:49 AM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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