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Governor Bush is Just Following Orders
Renew America ^ | 03/28/2005 | James Attickus Bowden

Posted on 03/28/2005 6:48:57 PM PST by Keyes2000mt

Governor Jeb Bush, R-Florida, was pained to say he had done all he could do legally. Bush said he wouldn't 'break the law' to save Terry Schiavo. Bush wouldn't, couldn't, shouldn't because he is just obeying orders. The Governor of Florida follows orders from a Pinellas County Circuit judge. In matters of life and death. In issues of cruel and unusual punishment. When due process is denied.

The Constitution of Florida says The People are sovereign — like kings. The People of Florida vest the supreme executive authority in a governor in their constitution. Unless, apparently, a judge orders otherwise. In fact a Circuit Judge, whose limited jurisdiction is listed in the Florida constitution can order every administrative and police official across the state of Florida to 'freeze, boy. Do as I order, hear?' So, when a child takes water to a starving, dehydrated disabled woman, the kid is arrested by deputies. They're just following orders.

Good Germans followed judges and other officials in obeying the law of the land 60 years ago. Good Americans today, it appears, also obey the law of the land. The law of the land is whatever a black robed priest-king, called judge, says it is. Ask Gov. Bush where in the Florida Code a Circuit judge can deny a woman food and water unto death. Yet, clearly, it's a violation of Chapter 825 of the Florida Criminal Code to abuse and neglect a disabled person, Terry Schiavo, by starvation.

The Florida Constitution states The People have the God-given right to life for all individuals — regardless of disability. Unless an elected lawyer in costume, a judge, says the law of the land is to kill a brain-damaged woman slowly. The abuse of a disabled person by failing to provide nutrition is a felony in Florida. Unless, of course, a judge says 'follow my orders' and won't permit her family to take a picture of her suffering.

Lawful Germans just followed the orders of Nazi Human Secularists. Loyal Russian, Chinese, North Korean, Eastern European, Cambodian, and Vietnamese carried out the orders of Communist Human Secularists. Americans serve Liberal Human Secularism if a judge orders. If a judge ordered a black man lynched, it would be the law of the land.

Why not? Gov. Bush would be so sorry, really, but couldn't do anything if a judge gave an order. But, a judge would never do such a thing, right? The difference between lynching and abortion is proportion and status. One black man dies or 40 million babies die (so far) on the word and writ of robed masters. No one in the executive or legislature used their constitutional powers. Everyone just followed orders.

Abortion was a state medical-legal issue, but five judges out of nine on the U.S. Supreme Court made up a right to privacy. It's written in the U.S. Constitution like the requirement to starve Terry Schiavo to death is in the Florida Constitution and Code. Look and see.

March 28th, 2005 we will see if the U.S. Congress which ordered a subpoena for Terry Schiavo and a new Federal judicial review of her case will follow the orders of Pinellas County Circuit judge. George Greer dismissed the subpoena, backed by the U.S. Code — it's the law, with a wave of his hand. Just as he denied Terry Schiavo her freedom of religion to receive communion, until her adulterous husband — and Greer's campaign contributor — relented for Easter. The Federal judges ignored the law the U.S. Congress passed and the President of the U.S. signed for new look at the case. They rule.

The elected Federal Legislature and Executive is having their bluff called. Attorney General Janet Reno sent in armed men against a Florida court order to take Elian Gonzales from his dead mother's wishes and loving family to return the child to communist slavery in Cuba. Perhaps, Republicans in power just posture.

Reasonable people and unreasonable people, sometimes known as lawyers, disagree on Gov. Bush using his executive power. They fear a Constitutional crisis. Too late. Judge Greer started the crisis, this Dred Scot, with his judicial tyranny. The judge would hold the Governor in contempt. It would take an Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln to be so bold. But, Jeb Bush, nice guy that he is, well-meaning man, and good Catholic, is no 'Old Hickory' and no "Honest Abe'. Jeb, like every defendant at Nuremburg save one, pleads 'not guilty' because he is just following orders.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: jebbush; jebwashedhishands; pontiuspilate; renewamerica; terrischiavo; truthhurts
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I would just caution you to be mindful of the long-term consequences of what you're asking the President and his brother to do.

Stop an innocent disabled woman from being tortured to death slowly?

421 posted on 03/28/2005 11:54:51 PM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: Kryptonite
I already posted that Jeb could have probably gotten away with a clear abuse of power without impeachment much less conviction which requires a two thirds vote of the state senate I would assume, if he so chose, particularly given the composition of the state legislature. He could have grasped the golden ring, symbolizing the corruption of power. It would have destroyed his reputation, and probably him in my view, but he could have done so. But he chose not to dishonor his oath of office. He made a decision, the right decision, the only decision he could make, as an honorable man, in my view. You may disagree. The point in the future though is to try to improve the law. This matter is now water under the bridge, however much we might passionately disagree.
422 posted on 03/29/2005 12:02:15 AM PST by Torie
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To: Keyes2000mt

Y'all gittin your panties in a wad over this need to get a grip...go ahead and flame me. I just hope we conservatives don't pay for gettin' whacked out about this in '08...if Hillary wins prez there will be a 1,000 Terri's...and 9/11s....


423 posted on 03/29/2005 12:02:21 AM PST by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

yes, and the flip side is the unintented consequences of letting an innocent woman died at the hands of an evil court.


424 posted on 03/29/2005 12:03:23 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Lancey Howard
They just showed a feature on the local news about Terri Schaivo, complete with video of her, awake and blinking her eyes, and smiling and appearing responsive. My 13-year-old son asked me what was the deal? I told him that the woman's husband wanted to kill her and the judge and the courts said, "Sure, go ahead. We'll make sure it happens." My son just laughed like I was joking. I then also explained that the Governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, didn't have the guts to do anything about it because he was afraid to make a county probate judge angry. My son is very confused about all this and all I could tell him was, "It's sick out there and getting sicker."

THAT VIDEO IS SEVERAL YEARS OLD...get a grip!

425 posted on 03/29/2005 12:04:29 AM PST by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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To: sarah_f

I was referring to your asking them to step outside what their own attorneys are telling them are the legal boundaries of their authority.

I realize that you know that already, but I felt compelled to answer your rhetorical question anyway. I'm not sure why.


426 posted on 03/29/2005 12:08:15 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: jpsb

I'm not happy about that either, jpsb - but if there is no legal solution to what is happening, that is a signal that the law needs to be changed, not broken.


427 posted on 03/29/2005 12:09:44 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: ATCNavyRetiree

THAT VIDEO IS SEVERAL YEARS OLD...get a grip!


WHY DOES THAT MATTER? So it's old so what. She has been doing the same thing for years. SHE ISN'T PVS OR IN A COMA OR BRAIN DEAD!! That's what it shows, like it or not.


428 posted on 03/29/2005 12:10:04 AM PST by Lovergirl (Terri..I don't personally know you but I love you. God please save Terri. ..TERRI IS THIRSTY.)
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To: Torie

No, the point in the future will remain whether an executive can legally wield his power despite whatever judicial proclamations exist. While no court or legislative body will ever pass on the issue of whether Jeb could legally have saved Terri's life because he has not done so, I'm not sold that he could not have legally wielded his authority to do so.

I haven't formed an opinion on his actions, from a political perspective, but I cannot swallow that the best legal minds available couldn't make a convincing argument that he does have the legal authority to save Terri's life pending further judicial review de novo or otherwise.


429 posted on 03/29/2005 12:16:26 AM PST by Kryptonite
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To: ATCNavyRetiree
THAT VIDEO IS SEVERAL YEARS OLD

"Several"?
And how many years ago did Michael begin his quest to murder Terri?

430 posted on 03/29/2005 12:16:47 AM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Once Terry dies, nothing will bring her back, and the damnage to the nation will be done. One thing is for sure, the GOP base is split, not good news for GOP in 06 or 08. Should the split be sever, Bush's poll number will drop big time (I think they are dropping already) an he will lose his ability to move his agenda. GOP up for reelection will run away from Bush hoping not to be painted by the same brush. Nothing good will come out of this and it very well might cause the GOP government to fall.


431 posted on 03/29/2005 12:17:44 AM PST by jpsb
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

It's not a matter of breaking a "law" it's a matter of breaking an illegal court judgment which purports that the governor may not enforce the law. It's a matter of breaking out of "courtocracy." The governor does not evade accountability by doing this -- he remains accountable to the legislature which can choose to impeach and remove him from office. Or it can decline to do so.


432 posted on 03/29/2005 12:19:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Florida, where the disabled go to be felosed to a "beautiful" starvation death.)
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To: jpsb

Yep. G'night.


433 posted on 03/29/2005 12:20:27 AM PST by Kryptonite
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To: jpsb

I believe and hope that a reformation within the GOP will be forced.


434 posted on 03/29/2005 12:21:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Florida, where the disabled go to be felosed to a "beautiful" starvation death.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

that would be the best outcome, but the GOP has to fall from power first.


435 posted on 03/29/2005 12:22:32 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Kryptonite
but I cannot swallow that the best legal minds available couldn't make a convincing argument that he does have the legal authority to save Terri's life pending further judicial review de novo or otherwise.

They can't convince the COURTS. Big hairy deal! This is about falling back on a different "court" -- the legislature.

436 posted on 03/29/2005 12:22:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Florida, where the disabled go to be felosed to a "beautiful" starvation death.)
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To: Kryptonite

Seems it was all sort of a gray area for Jeb. Could he or couldn't he? There was sure plenty opinions ranging far and wide on the matter from lots of legal experts just a week ago. But Jeb apparently chose not to risk erring on the side of life. I suspect that that decision will haunt him for the rest of his life.


437 posted on 03/29/2005 12:23:00 AM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

The fact is an innocent disabled woman is being tortured to death slowly by the government.

I hope I'm there to see bush explain to G-d, Creator of the Universe, about the nuances of "legal boundaries" and "limits of authority."

If you think the people of this nation are mad at bush, imagine what G-d has in store.

There will be hell to pay for this.


438 posted on 03/29/2005 12:39:33 AM PST by sarah_f ( Know Islam, Know Terror.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Agreed


439 posted on 03/29/2005 12:41:51 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PsyOps
Wrote this on another thread. Still feel this way. Betrayed. My nation betrayed.

Bush (hell, BOTH Bushes) is/are more of the same all-Yale-all-the-time East Coast elite. He tossed us just enough in the way of bread and circuses, knowing we were so starved for anything even remotely resembling conservative leadership after 8 years in Clinton hell to get himself re-elected. Now we will see the true heart of this phony Christian Republican revealed. Essentially erase the boarder. Vilify true patriots for daring to stand up to the criminally negligent government. Pull his forelock inf ront of a tyrannical judiciary and expect us to do the same. Am I the only one worried by how much time old man Bush and the impeached former occupant of the oral office are seen together? Does Hillary have something on the Shrubs? 700 plus files (some say as many as 900) were in Billary's possession and I guarantee they have heard of Xerox machines. Has a deal been cut between the Shrubs/Toon's? Is all hell going to break loose if Bruno doesn't receive the Presidency as is her due? Stay tuned. Something IS going on here, people. We're being lied to on all sides and being driven.

440 posted on 03/29/2005 12:44:41 AM PST by Tulsa Brian (This is The Zodiac Speaking...)
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