Posted on 03/28/2005 6:48:57 PM PST by Keyes2000mt
Governor Jeb Bush, R-Florida, was pained to say he had done all he could do legally. Bush said he wouldn't 'break the law' to save Terry Schiavo. Bush wouldn't, couldn't, shouldn't because he is just obeying orders. The Governor of Florida follows orders from a Pinellas County Circuit judge. In matters of life and death. In issues of cruel and unusual punishment. When due process is denied.
The Constitution of Florida says The People are sovereign — like kings. The People of Florida vest the supreme executive authority in a governor in their constitution. Unless, apparently, a judge orders otherwise. In fact a Circuit Judge, whose limited jurisdiction is listed in the Florida constitution can order every administrative and police official across the state of Florida to 'freeze, boy. Do as I order, hear?' So, when a child takes water to a starving, dehydrated disabled woman, the kid is arrested by deputies. They're just following orders.
Good Germans followed judges and other officials in obeying the law of the land 60 years ago. Good Americans today, it appears, also obey the law of the land. The law of the land is whatever a black robed priest-king, called judge, says it is. Ask Gov. Bush where in the Florida Code a Circuit judge can deny a woman food and water unto death. Yet, clearly, it's a violation of Chapter 825 of the Florida Criminal Code to abuse and neglect a disabled person, Terry Schiavo, by starvation.
The Florida Constitution states The People have the God-given right to life for all individuals — regardless of disability. Unless an elected lawyer in costume, a judge, says the law of the land is to kill a brain-damaged woman slowly. The abuse of a disabled person by failing to provide nutrition is a felony in Florida. Unless, of course, a judge says 'follow my orders' and won't permit her family to take a picture of her suffering.
Lawful Germans just followed the orders of Nazi Human Secularists. Loyal Russian, Chinese, North Korean, Eastern European, Cambodian, and Vietnamese carried out the orders of Communist Human Secularists. Americans serve Liberal Human Secularism if a judge orders. If a judge ordered a black man lynched, it would be the law of the land.
Why not? Gov. Bush would be so sorry, really, but couldn't do anything if a judge gave an order. But, a judge would never do such a thing, right? The difference between lynching and abortion is proportion and status. One black man dies or 40 million babies die (so far) on the word and writ of robed masters. No one in the executive or legislature used their constitutional powers. Everyone just followed orders.
Abortion was a state medical-legal issue, but five judges out of nine on the U.S. Supreme Court made up a right to privacy. It's written in the U.S. Constitution like the requirement to starve Terry Schiavo to death is in the Florida Constitution and Code. Look and see.
March 28th, 2005 we will see if the U.S. Congress which ordered a subpoena for Terry Schiavo and a new Federal judicial review of her case will follow the orders of Pinellas County Circuit judge. George Greer dismissed the subpoena, backed by the U.S. Code — it's the law, with a wave of his hand. Just as he denied Terry Schiavo her freedom of religion to receive communion, until her adulterous husband — and Greer's campaign contributor — relented for Easter. The Federal judges ignored the law the U.S. Congress passed and the President of the U.S. signed for new look at the case. They rule.
The elected Federal Legislature and Executive is having their bluff called. Attorney General Janet Reno sent in armed men against a Florida court order to take Elian Gonzales from his dead mother's wishes and loving family to return the child to communist slavery in Cuba. Perhaps, Republicans in power just posture.
Reasonable people and unreasonable people, sometimes known as lawyers, disagree on Gov. Bush using his executive power. They fear a Constitutional crisis. Too late. Judge Greer started the crisis, this Dred Scot, with his judicial tyranny. The judge would hold the Governor in contempt. It would take an Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln to be so bold. But, Jeb Bush, nice guy that he is, well-meaning man, and good Catholic, is no 'Old Hickory' and no "Honest Abe'. Jeb, like every defendant at Nuremburg save one, pleads 'not guilty' because he is just following orders.
Look up the word circumspect. Dwell on its meaning.
Uh...you left one thing out. An innocent citizen of Florida is DEAD.
Most are guided by opinion polls. IOW, they fear men more than God. They are not helpless. They simply do not recognize their God-given authority to protect the innocent from wrongful death. If they willfully persist in deferring to opinion polls, then they are not worthy of their office.
Guaranteed there is more than one public official these days who is not interested in sitting on hands while the innocent are allowed to suffer and die "legally." All of them should be encouraged to use the God-given authority they have. All of them deserve our prayers, just as do our enemies.
And that's what is important - how we are perceived. A nice summary of our "Conservative" leadership. Pay lip service to the cause and work to ensure a positive perception of their actions. Count me out.
Excuse ME, but all these posts comparing the Bushes to Hitler and the Nazis has got my goat.Not only does it sound suspiciously like much of the left wing ANSWER propaganda but it trivializes the Holocaust and what the REAL Nazis did.
I have mixed feelings on the Schiavo issue.I do agree that "we should err on the side of life".Yet I will be perfectly honest with you-if it was ME in Terri's position,I wouldn't want that to define"living".After saying that,I do believe her parents,not Michael,who seems like a real sleazeball,should have final say so.
Again,Leatherneck,not to pick on you but can we PLEASE do away with the Nazi analogy to the Bushes?
I know that.
You may be tired of them but the Nazis did exterminate hundreds of thousands of disabled people. You can't deny that. The analogy is there.
If the chances of success were even 30 for, 70 against, I'd go in and try. But, one person against a few dozen cops and snipers would not get very far would he?
Now a company of national guard troops with a few armored vehicles would stand a much better chance of winning, and probably with no shots fired.
So I vote that Jeb do his duty and send in the troops to get the girl.
Because I don't agree with you? Hardly.
see #58 - what a question?
if i see or hear about something happening to bully or destroy an innocent and am able to, i have and will do something about it.
not to mention, my tuchas has been on the line several times for your right to say that... has yours?
Beyond sad. Unspeakable. The entire thing.
Agreed again.. :-)
Excuses. You can't raise a man beyond his duty. The first duty is to those innocents in his care. Do not think his name or his office must be protected by alloweing a murder to continue. It will not come to a good end, but to a ruination.
#8 "Who the heck said that Twit greer had the right to play God?!?!!"
Greer is a swamprat judge on the take...
"See U.S. Constitution for the president's legal responsibilities."
See the Bible for his God required responsibilities. I doubt the Founders EVER intended for the constitution to be considered superior to the Bible.
"As individuals we are all responsible to act."
That is vigilantism and is not allowed by scripture. We can only act on those things God has granted us, the right to elect officials that respect God first, and the power of free speech God has bestowed in this country. I do not want to appear to denigrate any persons involved in the cause to save Terri. However, it is my personal opinion that demonstrations only act as a photo-op for the MSM to put down Christians and other pro-life types. Plus, with inflamed emotions it is very, very easy to go over the top and do something stupid so folks can call pro-lifers, "bomb throwers", "whack-jobs", "thumpers" and a host of other calumies I have read or been called here of FR. I think the best course of action is to place pressure upon elected officials, and keep it on. Work to remove them from office if they don't respond affirmatively to that pressure.
One must NEVER act as a vigilante. The power of the "sword" has been given by God to the magistrate. Individuals are warned by God that, "vengeance is Mine, I will repay says the Lord."
First, I am not advocating that Bush should have gone in to get TS...but...
Bush had the option. He commands/controls the law enforcement officers of the State of Florida, and IF he wanted to go in and the Pinellas County Sheriff would not stand down, Bush could have relieved him on the spot.
Next, Bush as Governor, is a 'co-equal' to the legislature. It would have been in the legislatures options to impeach him after the fact if it wanted to.
To state that the Governor of FL had NO ONE to enforce his decision, if he decided to go in, is incorrect, and if true, truly sad as to the state of the government of the state of FL.
How about REAL leadership, and accomplishment, and working to make progress in law and in the sanctity of life?? Do you want to be 'counted out' of actually SOLVING the problem, Fate, or do you want to have 'fun' and blame the wrong people??
Because that's all that's happening on this thread......and it's useless.
Janet Reno had more guts than all the Bushes collectively!
where the hell is the analogy....one case vs thousands and here is where the analogy ends......Terri had several court cases and appeals......and Congress and the Pres....those people in Germany were afforded nothing......NOTHING>..that is a big big difference.....don't let emotion about this tragic issue cloud your thinking......
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