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Governor Bush is Just Following Orders
Renew America ^ | 03/28/2005 | James Attickus Bowden

Posted on 03/28/2005 6:48:57 PM PST by Keyes2000mt

Governor Jeb Bush, R-Florida, was pained to say he had done all he could do legally. Bush said he wouldn't 'break the law' to save Terry Schiavo. Bush wouldn't, couldn't, shouldn't because he is just obeying orders. The Governor of Florida follows orders from a Pinellas County Circuit judge. In matters of life and death. In issues of cruel and unusual punishment. When due process is denied.

The Constitution of Florida says The People are sovereign — like kings. The People of Florida vest the supreme executive authority in a governor in their constitution. Unless, apparently, a judge orders otherwise. In fact a Circuit Judge, whose limited jurisdiction is listed in the Florida constitution can order every administrative and police official across the state of Florida to 'freeze, boy. Do as I order, hear?' So, when a child takes water to a starving, dehydrated disabled woman, the kid is arrested by deputies. They're just following orders.

Good Germans followed judges and other officials in obeying the law of the land 60 years ago. Good Americans today, it appears, also obey the law of the land. The law of the land is whatever a black robed priest-king, called judge, says it is. Ask Gov. Bush where in the Florida Code a Circuit judge can deny a woman food and water unto death. Yet, clearly, it's a violation of Chapter 825 of the Florida Criminal Code to abuse and neglect a disabled person, Terry Schiavo, by starvation.

The Florida Constitution states The People have the God-given right to life for all individuals — regardless of disability. Unless an elected lawyer in costume, a judge, says the law of the land is to kill a brain-damaged woman slowly. The abuse of a disabled person by failing to provide nutrition is a felony in Florida. Unless, of course, a judge says 'follow my orders' and won't permit her family to take a picture of her suffering.

Lawful Germans just followed the orders of Nazi Human Secularists. Loyal Russian, Chinese, North Korean, Eastern European, Cambodian, and Vietnamese carried out the orders of Communist Human Secularists. Americans serve Liberal Human Secularism if a judge orders. If a judge ordered a black man lynched, it would be the law of the land.

Why not? Gov. Bush would be so sorry, really, but couldn't do anything if a judge gave an order. But, a judge would never do such a thing, right? The difference between lynching and abortion is proportion and status. One black man dies or 40 million babies die (so far) on the word and writ of robed masters. No one in the executive or legislature used their constitutional powers. Everyone just followed orders.

Abortion was a state medical-legal issue, but five judges out of nine on the U.S. Supreme Court made up a right to privacy. It's written in the U.S. Constitution like the requirement to starve Terry Schiavo to death is in the Florida Constitution and Code. Look and see.

March 28th, 2005 we will see if the U.S. Congress which ordered a subpoena for Terry Schiavo and a new Federal judicial review of her case will follow the orders of Pinellas County Circuit judge. George Greer dismissed the subpoena, backed by the U.S. Code — it's the law, with a wave of his hand. Just as he denied Terry Schiavo her freedom of religion to receive communion, until her adulterous husband — and Greer's campaign contributor — relented for Easter. The Federal judges ignored the law the U.S. Congress passed and the President of the U.S. signed for new look at the case. They rule.

The elected Federal Legislature and Executive is having their bluff called. Attorney General Janet Reno sent in armed men against a Florida court order to take Elian Gonzales from his dead mother's wishes and loving family to return the child to communist slavery in Cuba. Perhaps, Republicans in power just posture.

Reasonable people and unreasonable people, sometimes known as lawyers, disagree on Gov. Bush using his executive power. They fear a Constitutional crisis. Too late. Judge Greer started the crisis, this Dred Scot, with his judicial tyranny. The judge would hold the Governor in contempt. It would take an Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln to be so bold. But, Jeb Bush, nice guy that he is, well-meaning man, and good Catholic, is no 'Old Hickory' and no "Honest Abe'. Jeb, like every defendant at Nuremburg save one, pleads 'not guilty' because he is just following orders.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: jebbush; jebwashedhishands; pontiuspilate; renewamerica; terrischiavo; truthhurts
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To: TigersEye
If you think it's such a great idea, why aren't you down there breaking the law to save Terry. You expect others to do, yet you don't do it. Are you a good German?

Are you a good German? Trying to silence the opposition with false shame?

Meaningless response. The question remains.

41 posted on 03/28/2005 7:17:35 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Howlin; Brilliant
Oh.....the DU's loving this thread, Howlin.

It feels like I've entered an alternate universe here........how many trolls do you suppose are among these good 'freepers?'

42 posted on 03/28/2005 7:17:40 PM PST by ohioWfan (Those of us who were created are brighter than those who evolved think we are...)
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

In addition to ordering the Governor not to take Terri into custody, the judge ordered that no one try to give water or food to Terri, and stated that if they did, they'd be arrested and held in conempt of court.

What I want to know is this: Did you get yourself arrested and held in contempt of court, or were you also "just following orders?"


43 posted on 03/28/2005 7:19:32 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Sola Veritas; Nowhere Man

Ernst Janning had great credentials too.


44 posted on 03/28/2005 7:19:33 PM PST by Petronski (If Reichskanzler Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: ohioWfan

And look who's feeding the unappeasables.


45 posted on 03/28/2005 7:20:06 PM PST by Howlin (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Sola Veritas
From the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith (to which I subscribe):

See U.S. Constitution for the president's legal responsibilities.

President Bush is the Chief Magistrate in this country, Governor Bush in Florida. It is their God given responsibility to act not individuals.

As individuals we are all responsible to act.

46 posted on 03/28/2005 7:21:17 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: ColdWarNavyVet_dirsup

Germans had no courts, they had a dictatorship. You are being unfair and rediculous.

Jeb would have to overcome both state and federal judges that voted NO.

You don't see Congress doing much more than leaving it with the courts either.

I think the Congress does need to further restrict judicial powers. Judges come off as King George right now to me.


47 posted on 03/28/2005 7:21:50 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Sarcastic1; Keyes2000mt; SausageDog; WOSG; Admin Moderator
Troll alert!
48 posted on 03/28/2005 7:22:01 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: Dan from Michigan

They just showed a feature on the local news about Terri Schaivo, complete with video of her, awake and blinking her eyes, and smiling and appearing responsive. My 13-year-old son asked me what was the deal? I told him that the woman's husband wanted to kill her and the judge and the courts said, "Sure, go ahead. We'll make sure it happens."

My son just laughed like I was joking.

I then also explained that the Governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, didn't have the guts to do anything about it because he was afraid to make a county probate judge angry. My son is very confused about all this and all I could tell him was, "It's sick out there and getting sicker."


50 posted on 03/28/2005 7:22:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: sarah_f

Talking about following orders--include all those law enforcement types searching Terri's parents, handcuffing kids, and basically upholding Greer's orders. I think if I were them, I would be taking vacation. Wouldn't you feel really "macho" handcuffing little kids? When this is over, there will be enough guilt and shame for all these people without souls to carry to their own judgement day.


51 posted on 03/28/2005 7:22:53 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Keyes2000mt

Why do our party's leaders have such trouble leading? Jeb Bush could have made the entire nation--dare I say entire world--take notice by simply declaring and enforcing that "...on my watch, no disabled woman is going to be put to death by starvation and dehydration at the request of her adulterous husband."

He had the moral and legal authority to save her...and he failed.


53 posted on 03/28/2005 7:24:13 PM PST by HighFlyer
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To: Sola Veritas
From the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith (to which I subscribe)

....yes, 'LBCF', 1689.......

SV,....we are 'brothers'.....

Maranatha!

(Romans 10:17)

54 posted on 03/28/2005 7:24:30 PM PST by maestro
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To: Keyes2000mt; Jim Robinson; Lead Moderator

I'm about sick to death of these articles being posted that compare President Bush and his brother, Governor Bush, to Nazis.

I see at least one per day posted here, and I'm furious.

You may sling around that Nazi comparison all you wish, but a president and a governor who flouted the law and went in with armed force to somehow "save Terri" would be the exact same as Janet Reno.

Is this how you want Republicans to behave? Are you calling for armed insurrection every single time you disagree with the judiciary? What have YOU, PERSONALLY done to save Terri?

I am totally opposed to Judge Greer and I think his rulings are judicial homicide. I am grieved beyond my ability to express about Terri's impending death.

But I do NOT blame President Bush and Governor Bush for her death. I absolutely do not EVER want a president and governor who go in armed against local civil authority.

You may disagree, but this comparison of President Bush and Governor Bush with good little Nazis has got to stop.


55 posted on 03/28/2005 7:24:33 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: FreeReign
The question's been answered. The President and the Governor have sought and obtained positions of power and responsibility. They swore oaths to fulfill that. It's their job by their own choice and the voter's will.

You are suggesting that citizens revolt before the Executives have failed their duty. People like you are a problem. Your challenges aim to promote lawlessness not preserve it.

56 posted on 03/28/2005 7:24:59 PM PST by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: Keyes2000mt

Under "Exclusive" on The Empire Journal I just read this:

MURDER ONE IF TERRI DIES EMPIRE JOURNAL OBTAINS FDLE REPORT
Developing


57 posted on 03/28/2005 7:25:13 PM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: Brilliant
Here is the extent of the public outcry to save Terri Schiavo's life, as it exists today in the heart of New York City:

I guess that's because the majority of people who feel this way are too busy typing to make an appearance.

58 posted on 03/28/2005 7:25:32 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: Keyes2000mt
.....just following orders.

Javol!


59 posted on 03/28/2005 7:25:45 PM PST by XR7
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To: Judith Anne
. I absolutely do not EVER want a president and governor who go in armed against local civil authority.

So you would prefer America's schools were still segregated.
60 posted on 03/28/2005 7:26:11 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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