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The Schiavo Rift
Cox & Forkum ^ | 3/28/05 | Cox & Forkum

Posted on 03/28/2005 2:13:58 PM PST by thoughtomator

I don't want to be a hotlinker, but no matter which side of this you're on, you'll have to admit that this is the funniest take on this case yet - and it's aimed squarely at us.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: schiavo; wppff
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To: Hand em their arse

He was a FReeper? Excellent. Was he registered?


541 posted on 03/29/2005 7:54:08 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Yep and I'm embarrassed everytime I see the protesters outside the hospice. Or, to be more clear about 75% of them embarrass me.


542 posted on 03/29/2005 7:58:41 AM PST by soundandvision
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To: Antoninus

I have been reading Terri Schiavo threads on Free Republic for, literally, years. Can anybody explain how this case apparently slipped under the radar screen and took the GOP by surprise? I suppose, to answer my own question, that it was never fathomable to anybody with any decency that a whole string of judges would sanction the barbaric murder of a citizen.


543 posted on 03/29/2005 7:59:59 AM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: soundandvision

The people with the guts to actually DO something "embarrass" you?


544 posted on 03/29/2005 8:01:30 AM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: 68 grunt

He was, and can you belkieve I can't for the life of me remember his screen name... He probably hadn't logged on to it since maybe 9months to 1yr. before he died... Lung cancer, went to his bones, then to his brain over about an 18 month span.... it ended up a pretty bad scene.... He was an wonderful man, though!!


545 posted on 03/29/2005 8:02:32 AM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: Hand em their arse

Well, may he rest in peace.


546 posted on 03/29/2005 8:05:47 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

Thank you, my FRiend...


547 posted on 03/29/2005 8:15:03 AM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: 68 grunt

I'm going Independent or "Refuse to State". But I'm dead serious about leaving the Republican Party. Jeb Bush turning his back on Terri was the last straw.


548 posted on 03/29/2005 9:01:12 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie SCHINDLER)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I truly believe your frustrations are misplaced but I wish you well.


549 posted on 03/29/2005 9:06:42 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Antoninus
If you could actually see past your hatred long enough to read what I wrote, you'd see that I actually never said that... I only commented that the cartoon is an accurate representation of what is occurring. However, I don't believe you are interested in the truth...

Any more falsehoods you'd like to toss out while you're at it?

550 posted on 03/29/2005 9:15:33 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: 68 grunt

Many people some on these threads have not really comprehended what is happening to his poor woman. They are in denial for many different reasons, some personal.

Once they do, they will be as horrified as those who want those feeding tubes in.


551 posted on 03/29/2005 9:38:43 AM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: The Coopster

And she's not getting any better - so your reference to my spouse is moot


It isn't mute. Like spouses or family members, they do whatever AND more than needs to be done for their 'loved' ones in their crisis. NOT nothing with all the $$means to do it. He promised everything before the $$, after receiving $$, he delivered nothing.

She hasn't gotten better BECAUSE of denial of the treatments she NEEDED to get better He denied her what the doctors said she needed. Deliberate, wouldn't you say. He can say all he wants, his ACTIONS tell the real story. My cousin - at 65 years old - had a heart attack and two strokes - couldn't talk, confined to a wheelchair. Two years later, after agressive therapy, speech and physical, he's walking and talking. It's not a big deal getting someone better - the resources are there - the guardian has to want it though. The patient could want it, the doctor could prescribe it, the nurses could plead for it, but if the guardian says no......it's no!

The intent wasn't to get her better. If you can grasp that concept, you will be more open to the unbelieveble.


552 posted on 03/29/2005 10:19:44 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Earthdweller

"So this guy is up for extermination in your book because he is on what you call "life support"."

This guy have a functioning brain. Terri does not. She cannot do ANYTHING other than lie there, day after day, after day for 15 years. There's no there there. This guy has a there. Terri does not.


553 posted on 03/29/2005 2:11:10 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: flaglady47
Here's another one ....dude....you would have a field day pronouncing death on people in limited cognitive ability.

Would you like to see others that you and your doctor friends can send to "h@ll" by your own hands? There must be thousands of them.


Forget Me Not

Our problems are many & varied, our struggles are always uphill... I'm speaking for hundreds of children, so listen awhile if you will...

I want understanding- not pity, I wish you could treat me the same...

You wouldn't ignore the other children, at least you would ask them their name...

I know I can't answer to tell you, my face may seem empty & dead.... My body is twisted- but I AM alive, and there ARE thoughts in my head...

I will not be shut out from the world, I am a child & it is my right....

I'm not an object of pity- to be hidden away out of sight....

My parents see me through eyes of love, and not as others do.... They see the things I can achieve & I wish that you would too.......

As I ask you to Forget-Me-Not, I beg you to hear my plea...

If I could speak I would ask you.... to please look closer & see me.

Author/source unknown

554 posted on 03/29/2005 2:20:55 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: presently no screen name

Florida does not recognize "common law" marriages, so according to law, she is his only wife.


555 posted on 03/29/2005 2:25:49 PM PST by brooklin
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To: flaglady47
Terri does not.

That has yet to be demonstrated. Why are you so sure, when so many millions of informed people, including many specialist in the field, have doubts? It sounds to me that you would like that to be the case, because you cannot come to grasp with a system, that would imprison a viable young woman for 15 years and then take her life, through a perversion and miscarriage of justice. But, that is exactly what many of us feel that this is.
556 posted on 03/29/2005 2:28:26 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: flaglady47
Here's another one..if the parents had listened to you and their doctors she would be a mummy right now.


Heather was born in October 1986. She wasn't due until November. However a ultrasound showed there was no amniotic fluid and a emergency c section was done. As soon as the cord was cut there was lung shock and affixation. She was given CPR for the first 15 minutes of her life. She was given a 25% chance of survival. I knew in my heart that since she was born alive she would make it. We were never told that there would be any chance of disabilities. At six months she started having seizures (infantile spasms).

Our pediatrician laughed at me and said they were seizures and scheduled a EEG for two weeks. Needless to say we weren't happy with him and found another Dr within an hour and she was admitted into the hospital within two hours from that.

We were real lucky with the medications. They put her on Phenobarbital and the seizures were under control within a week. They said she would be on the meds until she was at least 3, probably 5. She was off them within 18 months and has been seizure free since.

Again, there was no mention of any disabilities.

At 7 mths a visiting nurse recommended therapy because she was not doing age appropriate things. Than a friend asked if she had cp. I said I think someone would have mentioned it, but I'll ask. At therapy I asked and was told she had too much muscle tone and that was it. At the next appointment we had to see a CCS doctor.

As soon as I walked in the door she said, "Oh, your daughter does have Cerebral Palsy, always has and always will, she will never walk, she will be severally retarded and she will sit in a wheelchair and drool, now this is how I want you to stretch her legs". Needless to say I was in shock.

After I left I called her Pediatrician and asked what this woman was talking about. We went in and all was finally explained to us.

Her diagnoses is Spastic Quad, visually impaired (legally blind), developmentally delayed and seizure disorder. I then went out to get as much information as possible and continue to do so to this day. She had a Selective dorsal Rhizotomy at age 3 and has has 3 hip surgeries for a dislocated right hip.

With the help of a very supportive family and an awful lot of determination Heather has and continues to defy the doctors, therapist and medical profession in general with her abilities and her progress.

557 posted on 03/29/2005 2:30:53 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: presently no screen name

And......once again you ignore the entire tone and premise of MY posts.

I believe you're being deliberately obtuse. This time you cherry pick the follow up comment to my post, ignoring the meat of what was said - and choosing to again repeat what I have never discussed:




"Wrong. My spouse and I have discussed it in depth, and understand each others wishes fully.

And I can't be any clearer about my opinions, as demonstrated in every single post of mine here tonight. So with all due respect - I don't really care "how you view it".

And there are plenty of folks here who understand where I'm coming from - regardless of what you think "most people" will agree with, and regardless of how much you (or anyone else, for that matter) wants to put words in my mouth.

For the record - I defy any one of you to show me where I have deviated from my original statement, wich has ZERO to do with the standard hysterical exchanges here, save referencing when some folks (nibbing in or not)can't help but try to suck me in. In fact, I have also been very up front with the fact that my opinions are just that - opinions. As are everyone else's here. But some are so arrogant that somehow their OPINION is right, while everyone who dares disagree with them is wrong.

Go back and read my original post, and all that followed. If you truly are unable (or unwilling) to see my point, then I can't help you. I can't be any clearer - and in fact, I don't feel any need to justify myself to you."




Never have brought up the diagnosis, prognosis, etc. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a neurosurgeon. I'm not a lawyer, and I am not a member of the family. IOW, I don't have all of the facts. For that matter, neither do you. The difference here is that I am not willing to be judge, jury, executioner, and legislator based on conjecture and emotion. All that I have spoken to is what I do know for sure - get it in writing, and this has become a sad/pathetic circus.

So until you quit ignoring what I have clearly stated, and continue to assume you know what my thoughts are - I'm done with you, as well. I understand what an emotional issue this is; that doesn't mean that we can't have intelligent/reasoned discourse. Ignoring points just to trumpet your from the rooftops doesn't count.

And the correct word IS moot, not mute.


558 posted on 03/29/2005 2:46:26 PM PST by The Coopster
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To: brooklin

according to fl - she is his only wife

Yep - there's that Florida law again.!


He is engaged and has two children w/any woman. He has started a new family. Why didn't he marry the mother of his children. Because he is still married. Why didn't the control freak divorce Terri? Nope, we do away w/her instead w/the blessing of 'his' judge.

His guardianship should have been ripped away years ago.
Every step that has been taken by MS and then approved of by greer has been wrong wrong wrong.

PLEASE don't try to make murder look good with ANY excuse.
It is what is it..evil.


559 posted on 03/29/2005 3:04:58 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: ARCADIA

"That has yet to be demonstrated."

The autopsy will put the lie to what you and your compatriots have been spewing forth. We'll see.


560 posted on 03/29/2005 3:09:37 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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