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It's the pasta, stupid
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Monday, March 28, 2005 | Ralph R. Reiland

Posted on 03/28/2005 11:00:54 AM PST by Willie Green

"The idea is to build an 'AfricaTown,' similar to Little Italy and Chinatown," explained Charles Oliver in a recent issue of Reason magazine, referring to the vote by Detroit City Council to spend $30 million a year in public money to develop a blacks-only, race-based district of entrepreneurship in downtown Detroit.

"By a 7-2 vote," reported Oliver, "the council has decreed that only black businessmen and investors can qualify for the money." The concept of this black version of Little Italy originated in a $112,000 report commissioned by the council: "A Powernomics Economic Development Plan for Detroit's Under-Served Majority Population."

Detroit's population is poor, shrinking and overwhelmingly black. By official count, 26 percent of the populace is living below the poverty line and 83 percent of the city's population is black. It's this "under-served majority population," according to the "Powernomics" report, that is being passed up economically by a mixed bag of nonblack newcomers.

More specifically, the report complains that entrepreneurial immigrants from Latin America and the Middle East are opening up too many stores and selling too much of everything to blacks. In doing so, it's alleged that these money-grubbing greenhorns are stealing jobs and business opportunities from blacks.

The plan is to create a black Little Italy, dubbed AfricaTown, funded in large part by taxpayers' dollars and made up of black-owned businesses catering to a black clientele. The analogy to Little Italy, of course, doesn't work....

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: africatown; detroit; govwatch; multiculturalism; prejudice; racism; turass
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1 posted on 03/28/2005 11:00:55 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

It's the "will you please stop with the it's the whatever, stupid", stupid!


2 posted on 03/28/2005 11:02:12 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Willie Green

I'd think you would wholeheartedly support subversions of the free market.


3 posted on 03/28/2005 11:05:15 AM PST by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: Willie Green; Hillary's Lovely Legs

Wow. That leaves me absolutely speechless.


4 posted on 03/28/2005 11:05:24 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: advance_copy

Reward money for the destruction of this once great city?


5 posted on 03/28/2005 11:08:01 AM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: Willie Green

Little Ethiopia?


6 posted on 03/28/2005 11:08:07 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: advance_copy

Reward money for the destruction of this once great city?


7 posted on 03/28/2005 11:08:34 AM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: Willie Green
Well, this is interesting. Little Italy (all of them) represented the "old neighborhood" where unassimilated Italian immigrants lived out of necessity, enduring discrimination until they could work their way out of the 'hood. Same basic thing for "Chinatown".

Seems that the Detroit city fathers want to build Detroit residents (at taxpayers' expense of course) a new segregated black neighborhood, in hopes that this will improve their lot in life.

I wonder what they'll call it? "GhettoTown"?

8 posted on 03/28/2005 11:10:27 AM PST by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: Willie Green
"...Detroit City Council to spend $30 million a year in public money ..."

It's public money. Good grief! How can one take the public's money and say you can have part of it, but you there can't. Your feet are too big.

Would Michael Jackson qualify? Enquiring minds want to know.

9 posted on 03/28/2005 11:15:08 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Taliesan
I'd think you would wholeheartedly support subversions of the free market.

Those thoughts are natural for a flamebaiting troll such as yourself.

10 posted on 03/28/2005 11:15:33 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Little Ethiopia?

Little Darfur, maybe?

11 posted on 03/28/2005 11:16:42 AM PST by talleyman (E=mc2 (before taxes))
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To: Willie Green
Detroit's population is poor, shrinking and overwhelmingly black. By official count, 26 percent of the populace is living below the poverty line and 83 percent of the city's population is black.

Sounds like Detroit is pretty much already there. With these demographics, the whole city is "Africatown".

12 posted on 03/28/2005 11:20:01 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Willie Green

maybe taliesin forgot the sarcasm tag?


13 posted on 03/28/2005 11:20:09 AM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Willie Green
...the report complains that entrepreneurial immigrants from Latin America and the Middle East are opening up too many stores and selling too much of everything to blacks. In doing so, it's alleged that these money-grubbing greenhorns are stealing jobs and business opportunities from blacks.

Im sure the "immigrants" are laughing all the way to the local Western Union!

Bitching cause they were hung with a gold rope....ping.

14 posted on 03/28/2005 11:21:44 AM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: Willie Green
LOL! Even Mayor Kwaeme Kilpatrick saw how nutty the proposal was and vetoed it. But that didn't stop the Detroit City Council from going ahead to kill off what's left of Motor City.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
15 posted on 03/28/2005 11:22:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Willie Green

Ah, Little Italy: restaurants owned by Greeks, meals cooked by Mexicans, with the waiter/waitress some unemployed actor/actress from Omaha.


16 posted on 03/28/2005 11:23:59 AM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Willie Green
(The rest of the article):

..There's nothing about the proposed development of AfricaTown that bears the least resemblance to how Little Italy happened.

The Italian immigrants first settled in the Lower East Side of Manhattan in the 1850s, eight decades before the U.S. even had a minimum-wage law (i.e., 25 cents an hour in 1938) and long before the federal government got in the business of safety nets. The Italians, in short, came to Mulberry Street for an opportunity, not a handout.

A 1901 study by Dr. Kate Holladay Claghorn, "The Foreign Immigrant in New York," describes the beginning days of Little Italy: "The little handful of Italians that made up the immigration from Italy in the early decades were mainly a vagabond but harmless class of organ grinders, ragpickers, bear laders and the like."

Reported Claghorn: "There was little pauperism among these people, if we may judge from the relative infrequency of Italian cases appearing in the reports of private charitable societies. They were a class of people who worked and paid their rent. They were strict in keeping their agreements. They are considered very desirable tenants."

The "handful," in short order, grew to "a great army of barbers, bootblacks, fruiterers and shoemakers," along with "about 400 persons employed in macaroni factories" and "many Italian watchmakers, bakers, confectioners, keepers of cafes and ice cream saloons, wine dealers, grocers, dry-goods dealers, and many in other businesses."

What worked was hard work. Again, as Claghorn recounted: "The Italian fruit peddler bestows a considerable amount of his inherited racial art sense in 'composing' his wares to form an attractive picture; the Italian barber pays considerable attention to the attractiveness of his place; the Italian bootblack is not the little ragged urchin of yesterday with battered box and a shrill velocity of motion, but a well-kept looking individual anywhere from 15 to 30 years of age, with a regularly established place of business ranging from the throne-like arm chair and umbrella to the regular shop as well-kept as the barber's."

Across the board, reported Claghorn, rich or poor in Little Italy, "all classes are highly industrious, thrifty, and saving" -- the exact formula for upward mobility and business expansion. "The tradespeople prosper rapidly," she reported. "The Italian barber enlarges his shop, perhaps finally sells out and becomes a banker; the fruit peddler buys a little shop, then a bigger one and may finally become a wealthy importer; and in like manner with other shopkeepers. The more ambitious and successful move to the suburbs and become property owners in Long Island City, Flushing, Corona, Astoria, etc."

That's how Italians got rich. It's how America got rich. Or as historian John Steele Gordon explained it: "If America is famous for its get-up-and-go, it's because we have ancestors who got up and came."

Little Italy, in short, was successful because the spaghetti was good, not because someone got a handout from city council.

Ralph R. Reiland, the B. Kenneth Simon professor of free enterprise at Robert Morris University, is a local restaurateur. E-mail him at rrreiland@aol.com.

17 posted on 03/28/2005 11:28:18 AM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Kenton

I know what they used to call it but we can't say that anymore.

Anyway I thought blacks were against segregation.


18 posted on 03/28/2005 11:28:50 AM PST by Ditter
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To: dynachrome

What a RACIST idea. What a RACIST handout

I propose that they change the name of the whole city to Zimbabweiville. Or Mugabe Metropolis. How about Idi Amin Town?


19 posted on 03/28/2005 11:30:06 AM PST by BubbaTex (Long time lurker)
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To: Willie Green

I expect that someone will challenge this law in federal court as advancing blatant racial discrimination, therefore in violation of the Constitution.

After witnessing the Schiavo atrocity, though, its anyone's guess where this will wind up.


20 posted on 03/28/2005 11:34:50 AM PST by bowzer313
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