Posted on 03/27/2005 6:31:49 PM PST by Golden Gate
Edited on 03/27/2005 6:49:29 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
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O Lord,
you told us to ask,
so I am asking for help for our poor Terri,
you told us to seek and we find you,
to comfort, guide and heal us,
We are knocking,
and we know the door will be opened.
O Father, Abba,
we know you are the source, he who gives life,
and he who takes it back.
Soften the hearts of those who think that this is man's right only,
and may our sister and all in her position find rest and peace with you,
fill them with the living waters which only come from Heaven.
In the name of Jesus Christ,
Amen.
by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
If you're a FReeper who really didn't care about Terri and now say it's all over for Terri and time to quit, - please go start your own FR thread to that effect and post there. Please, and Thank You.
We're hearing about the use of morphine. One speculation that was posted, said that it is a matter of hours, and that Terri would be dead tonight. And the attorney saying 'point of no return'. I hear about a subpoena that is/was to be issued on Monday. What's wrong with serving a subpoena on the weekend? - Offices closed?
Before reading this headline, this thread was going to be a 'Roll Call' -'reserved'- for those FReepers who believe that Gov. Jeb Bush and/or Pres. Bush should violate the court order to rescue Terri and give her the intensive care that she needs and deserves.
I would like to share a prayer that was posted recently:
Heavenly Father - We humbly implore You to protect our little Sister, Theresa Marie Schiavo, from internal damage to her organs. We pray for a life-saving miracle on her behalf. Like the ones who cut a hole in the roof and dropped their crippled friend down to Your Beloved Son, Jesus Christ, we are bringing Terri before You and asking for Your Healing Touch. In the Name of Jesus Christ, our Savior and King. Amen.
- by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie Schiavo)
So we have the prayer to protect Terri's organs from internal damage, and looking to God for a miracle. Many were thinking that she might die on Good Friday, but she didn't. And that quote from Terri, "Where there's life, there's hope." It was noted back in Oct. '03, when Terri was starved for six and half days, that Terri Schindler has an incredible will to live. And there is that organization, "Not Dead Yet!"
There was the FR tradition from Oct. '03 - "Pray first, and don't give up, - never give up!"
So, to the friends of Terri, I wonder what you think. Is it realistic to think that it is a matter of hours and that Terri will be finally be murdered sometime tonight?
If U.S. Pres. George W. Bush, and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, and the leaders in the U.S. Congress have not heeded the pleas for mercy, justice, and help this far, - should we continue the effort any longer? Or, should we continue the calls and emails until Terri is finally dead and cremated?
Would intensive care be of any value for Terri at this point?
Or, is it not to bother and just ~~let her go~~?
Last night I was thinking:
Terri is one of us, a living human, a living American. There are people who are afraid to look at Terri in her situation. Terri's disablility, - or injury -, causes some people to be fearful and want to look away, and not get involved and not help. The people who believe that it is 'better dead than disabled', or, 'I'm glad I don't have to decide that one...' But we must remember, that asTerri lives, or as Terri may die, she is one of us, a human being.
As Terri's body is poisoned today and fills with morphine, it will be all the more reason for people to want to continue to look away and ignore the injustice and shame of her murder, of her death. However, in life or in death, she is one of us.
43 posted on 03/27/2005 3:16:47 PM PST by jpsb
The Gov. would not be breaking the law...he would be defying a court order....big deal. It would cause a big stink but if anything is worth it, a life is. It is time for someone to tell these judges where to stick it. Jeb surely is aware of the cronyism among those small-time judges.
JUST GO GET HER, TAKE HER TO SAFETY, AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY! BTW, the Fla. legislature is to blame for all of this!!!!
This website was down for awhile - probably hacked. Too much PROOF here.
Here's what's at this link. Go there and see for yourself (before it gets hacked again.)
http://www.zimp.org/stuff/nav.htm
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
1. Michael Schiavo
Background information on Michael Schiavo.
2. Lawyer Greico Intervenes
Attorney for Schiavo meets with Terri's parents soon after her collapse.
3. Michael Schiavo appointed guardian
Appointment of Schiavo as guardian
4. Bone Scan Image
1991 bone scan image of Terri Schiavo showing a history of trauma. Discovered in November 2002
5. Dr. Walker, Radiologist
2003 testimony regarding his concern with bone scan image taken of Terri in 1991
6. Jackie Rhodes, Terris co-worker and close friend
2000 testimony discussing many aspects of Terris relationship with Michael; his controlling behavior, Terri considers a divorce.
7. Bobby Schindler, Terris brother
1989 conversation with Terri wanting to divorce Michael
8. Cindy Shook, former girlfriend of Michael Schiavo
2001 testimony regarding Michaels disturbing behavior. Ms. Shook was Michaels first girlfriend after Terris collapse
9. Cindy Shook, former girlfriend of Michael Schiavo
2001 phone conversation between Cindy Shook and Bobby Schindler discussing her paralyzing fear she has of Michael Schiavo
10. Suzanne Vitadamo, Terris sister
1992 encounter of violent episode with Michael Schiavo
11. Bobby Schindler, Terris brother
1984 encounter of violent episode with Michael Schiavo
12. Dr. Hamilton, Orthopedic Surgeon
1990, Dr. Hamilton consults Terri two months after collapse. Discovered in 2002
13. Dr. Hammesfahr, Neurologist
2002 testimony that Terris neck is abnormally stiff
14. Dr. Bambakidis, Neurologist
2002 testimony that Terris neck is abnormal
15. Humana Northside Hospital, Discharge Summary
1990, Doctor notes on Terris neck when admitted to the hospital night of her collapse. Discovered in 2002
16. Dr. Hammesfahr, Neurologist
2002 testimony regarding possible strangulation
17. Dr. Michael Baden, Forensic Pathologist
2003 FOX NEWS interview troubled by Terris bone scan image from 1991
18. Dr. Carole Lieberman M.D., M.P.H.
2004, Psychiatric Expert Witness profiles Michael Schiavo
19. Michael Schiavo's Contradictions
1990-2003, testimony contradicting events from the
night Terri collapsed
20. Dr. Bambakidis, Neurologist
2002 testimony regarding question if Terri had a heart attack
21. Northside Hospital, Discharge Summary
1990, Doctors perplexed with Terri collapse. Discovered in 2002
22. Carla Iyer, R.N.
2003 affidavit regarding Michaels abusive behavior while Terri was in a nursing home
23. Heidi Law, Certified Nursing Assistant
2003 affidavit regarding Michaels abusive behavior while Terri was in a nursing home
24. Trudy Capone, R.N.
2001 affidavit regarding relationship with Michael Schiavo
25. Michael Schiavo
1993, funeral file on Terri. Discovered in 2003
2002, petition to have Terris body cremated
26. Judge George Greer, 6th Circuit Court
2002 ruling denying investigation into bone scan image taken of Terri in 1991
27. Pinellas & Pasco County, Office of the State Attorney
2003 denial to investigate Michael Schiavo
28. St. Petersburg Police Department
2003 denial to investigate Michael Schiavo
29. Humana Northside Hospital
1990 Discharge summary of Terri Schiavo
30. St. Petersburg Police Department Report
1990, police report from night of Terris collapse
31. Cindy Shook, former girlfriend of Michael Schiavo
2001 radio interview, transcript
You've got to be kidding me. You might want to switch your preferred tinfoil brand.
If I say, "Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,"
even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the day,
for darkness is as light to you.
For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.
I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place.
When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,
your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me
were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
Psalms 139: 11-16
Governor Bush, risk the Constitutional crisis. Our judiciary is out of control and a great injustice is being done. Risk impeachment to do what you know is the right thing to do. Our democracy will be better for it, even if your career may not.
Theresa Marie Schiavo
It's obscene and wrong that a person should be starved by court order. It's one thing to remove artificial hydration, but extraordinary to also order that no liquid be given by mouth, even though the person is able to accept it.
Those on the ground who made and carried out these orders should expect to be held responsible. Remember Nuremberg, and the plaintive excuses made by the "law enforcement" officers who "just followed orders" when assisting the concentration camp murders. Remember, you who are ficilitating Terri's death today.
In addition to monitoring what's happening to Terri and to helping inform the news-deprived of the world, let's keep our eyes on the big prize... The Senate will consider a rules change to accelerate the approval of judicial appointees -- the so-called Nuclear Option, because it help create a more responsible judiciary. We must support that in every way possible.
In memory of Terri. Amen.
I am so full of sadness tonight. My children and I have been praying for Teri and her family. Tonight we watched The Passion with the kids. I weep when I watch it as I think of Mary and what she must have felt during the day of her Son's death. I am also weeping for Mary Shindler and what she must be feeling watching her daughter through this. The parallels are stunning.... Please Lord, help us to react as Christ, Your Son, would. Please keep us from becoming instruments of evil. Amen.
My teen age daughter told us how hard it is not to think of evil things to do to Michael Schiavo; she is very upset by this injustice. We have always taught her that the government authorities were there to protect her; what do we tell her now?
Thanks for the link.
The activist judges just ignore the Consitution and Declaration of Independence, and replace it with their own evil ideology.
Abba is Aramaic for daddy. It is an intimate form, used with one's father.
I have a feeling that there is going to be some major action tomorrow - and I think there may be some very surprised bad guys.
I would like to see Greer hauled out of his courtroom in cuffs for contempt of congress.
Jeb may not be able to override the state courts here but the feds still would have superior authority.
Just like Janet Reno went in and seized Elian Gonzalez, though I hate to use that as an example.
Manuel Vicente of Virginia also suggested this.
Has anyone replaced Ashcroft as Attorney General yet, or is Ashcroft still there?
Where is the Attorney General when he is needed?
If governors can pardon felons though why can't they pardon sick people who want to live?
But better yet, an executive order could be issued.
Jeb Bush would be able to show repentance by being the bully pulpit for constitutional amendments that tighten the restrictions way up on cases like this, so that there are no more Terris. Something like no person shall be deliberately deprived of food and drink or its equivalent except where that would make no difference in their condition or where their desire to do so has been expressed on oath.
Jeb Bush would be able to show repentance by being the bully pulpit for constitutional amendments that tighten the restrictions way up on cases like this, so that there are no more Terris. Something like no person shall be deliberately deprived of food and drink or its equivalent except where that would make no difference in their condition or where their desire to do so has been expressed on oath.
He has his states National Guard at his disposal. If we are going to have a constitutional crisis, lets do it for something that really counts...the sanctity of human life.
I hope you're right.
Any ideas to what you think might happen?
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