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1 posted on 03/27/2005 5:24:43 PM PST by Down South P.E.
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To: Down South P.E.

FBI says neither one of them was responsible, they've ruled out terrorism

There is nothing new here - move on...


2 posted on 03/27/2005 5:27:12 PM PST by traumer
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To: Down South P.E.

We'll see if the islamderthals manage to produce a video.


3 posted on 03/27/2005 5:27:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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FBI has ruled them out, lets not give them the credit they are looking for.


4 posted on 03/27/2005 5:29:04 PM PST by duck duck goose
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To: Down South P.E.

These are not the droids you want.


6 posted on 03/27/2005 5:29:48 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Down South P.E.

Same type of people who used a toy to pretend to capture a U.S. soldier and also claimed to be responsible for the Northeast blackout.


7 posted on 03/27/2005 5:30:40 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Believing in Internet Polls is Like Believing in the Tooth Fairy)
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To: Down South P.E.
The FBI says neither one of them was responsible, they've ruled out terrorism as the cause of the blast.

Okay. What have they ruled IN as the cause of the blast?

8 posted on 03/27/2005 5:31:04 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Down South P.E.
Sounds to me like the ragheads are willing to claim ANY large boom as something they did, and are willing to fight with each other for that honor.....just another example of how impotent these morons really are....
9 posted on 03/27/2005 5:32:26 PM PST by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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To: Down South P.E.

These wannabe terrorists are just opportunists like men who claim an earthquake during love-making as proof of their prowess.


13 posted on 03/27/2005 5:40:34 PM PST by nhoward14 (Frodo failed. Hillary has the One Ring.)
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To: Down South P.E.; Dog Gone

Fatiguing Ping! Monday's comin at midnight!!!


14 posted on 03/27/2005 5:40:49 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting America Progress!!!)
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To: Down South P.E.
... the Army of the Levant said it was behind the blast. But another group calling itself the al-Qaeda Organisation for Holy War in the United States of America promised to issue a video of the attack to prove it was responsible.

Okay, fine. Take these people at their word. If they figured out a way to get word out that they did it then we must have a way to figure out who they are and where they are. Find them and kill them.

16 posted on 03/27/2005 5:44:36 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Down South P.E.

Regretably you can't necessarily trust either the terrorists or the FBI on this. It's pretty much FBI policy to deny any terrorist connections if possible. But the terrorists aren't credible either.


18 posted on 03/27/2005 5:52:15 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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March 24, 2005, 11:13PM

FBI finds no evidence of suspicious activity

Terrorism

By STEVE MCVICKER and MICHAEL HEDGES
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

There is no validity to reported claims by two Islamic groups that they caused the fatal blast in Texas City, according to the Houston office of the FBI.

"There's no evidence to suggest there is any outside group involved in (Wednesday's) explosion," said FBI spokesman Al Tribble. Additionally, he said, at this point, the agency has no investigators at the BP plant.

"There's no criminal investigation as it pertains to terrorism at this time," said Tribble. "We're convinced through our bomb technicians, our personnel that were sent down there, the authorities that are on-site, and the BP officials that there are no reports of any breaches of security. There's been no suspicious activity reported. The blast characteristics aren't consistent with any sort of terrorist-type of threat or activity. So we pulled our people back."


March 25, 2005, 10:44AM

'We all want to know what happened and why'

Terrorism ruled out in blast, but may take a year to find cause

By ALLAN TURNER, KEVIN MORAN and DINA CAPPIELLO
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

FBI and Department of Homeland Security spokesmen discounted Thursday reported claims that the explosion had been the work of Islamic terrorists. Reuters news agency reported groups identifying themselves as al Qaeda Organisation for Holy War in the United States of America and Army of the Levant claimed responsibility for the blast.

"There's no evidence to suggest there is any outside group involved in (Wednesday's) explosion," said FBI spokesman Al Tribble. "There's no criminal investigation as it pertains to terrorism at this time."


March 26, 2005, 10:35PM

PROBE CLOSES IN ON BLAST CAUSE

Eleven are still hospitalized, 5 in critical condition; task of burying loved ones begins

By KEVIN MORAN and ALLAN TURNER
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

TEXAS CITY - A piece of equipment that breaks down a highly volatile liquid may have been the flashpoint for an explosion that killed 15 people and injured more than 100 at the BP oil refinery here, federal investigators said Saturday.

Known as a "raffinate splitter," the device distills naphtha in a process used in boosting octane in gasoline.

Preliminary evidence suggests the apparatus, which is part of the larger isomerization unit, was — or was near — the point at which flammable liquid or gas exploded.

The blast occurred as workers attempted to restart the octane-enhancing unit after two weeks' maintenance.

Michael Economides, a University of Houston chemical engineering professor familiar with the refining process, said that when a raffinate splitter is taken out of service for maintenance all flammable substances should be removed.

Liquid is drained, he said, and vapor is purged from the system with a blast of inert gas.

"These high-end hydrocarbons are not just flammable," he said, "they are eminently explosive ... This is big, intricate equipment with many nooks and crannies, and it is conceivable that there could have been a pocket of gas still somewhere in the unit."

Gas left in the system could be touched off by a welder's torch, or virtually any other source of ignition, with catastrophic results.

Economides, who never has visited the Texas City refinery, said gas remaining in the machinery also could have been responsible for a flash fire that erupted at the site Tuesday afternoon.

That blaze was quickly extinguished, and no one was injured.


20 posted on 03/27/2005 5:55:08 PM PST by deport (You know you are getting older when everything either dries up or leaks.)
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To: Down South P.E.

Dang vigilantes taking up the border patrol's time
and distracting them from keeping out terrorists


22 posted on 03/27/2005 5:57:27 PM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: Down South P.E.

The WTC on 9-11-01 would have probably been identified as an accident had it not been for that pesky 2nd plane hitting the second tower, and that one hitting the Pentagon, and that one crashing in Pennsylvania.

After all, Flt 587 was just an accident----wind ripples. And TWA 800. And Murrah/OKC was just 2 white guys in a .... yellow car [pay no attention to the Middle Eastern-looking guys in some of the videos].


23 posted on 03/27/2005 6:01:10 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: All
ON THE NET...


Click2Houston.com: Texas City, Texas - "14 DIE IN MASSIVE EXPLOSION AT TEXAS CITY REFINERY More Than 80 People Injured" (Updated March 23, 2005) (Read More...)
stepping back in time...Click2Houston.com: Texas City, Texas- "BP AMOCO PLANT EXPLOSION INVESTIGATION UNDER WAY No Injuries Reported; Cause Remains Unknown" (Updated March 31, 2004) (Read More...)
FREEREPUBLIC.COM: "EXPLOSION FELT IN GALVESTON, TEXAS" (March 23, 2005) (Read More...)

ON THE NET..."www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1356876/posts?page=2465#2465" (re: Texas) (Read More...)

29 posted on 03/27/2005 6:07:59 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Down South P.E.

The essence of terrorism is to implant fear in their target populations. They are bluffing - move on.


33 posted on 03/27/2005 6:43:04 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: Down South P.E.
seems that if terrorists were going to do it, they'd hit the storage tank farms for the Shock and Awe the giant fires would make for days
38 posted on 03/27/2005 7:32:33 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Down South P.E.

*Michael Economides, a University of Houston chemical engineering professor familiar with the refining process, said that when a raffinate splitter is taken out of service for maintenance all flammable substances should be removed.

Liquid is drained, he said, and vapor is purged from the system with a blast of inert gas.

"These high-end hydrocarbons are not just flammable," he said, "they are eminently explosive ... This is big, intricate equipment with many nooks and crannies, and it is conceivable that there could have been a pocket of gas still somewhere in the unit."

Gas left in the system could be touched off by a welder's torch, or virtually any other source of ignition, with catastrophic results."*


39 posted on 03/27/2005 7:41:55 PM PST by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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