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To: MarkL
Bad as felos may be, here's a partial transcript from Rush of another trailbrazer for Death. Almost threw up hearing it.

All right. Let's go back to the TV show. Rush Limbaugh, the TV show in 1996, National Press Club, Jack Kevorkian discussed the dignity in which people die with his assistance versus the dignity in which some other people die.

KEVORKIAN: Well, let's take what people think is a dignified death. Christ. Was that a dignified death? Do you think it's dignified to hang from wood with nails through your hands and feet, bleeding for three or four days and slowly dying? With people jabbing spears into your side and people jeering you? Do you think that's dignified? Not by a long shot. Had Christ died in my van (laughter) with people around him who loved him, the way it was, it would be far more dignified. My rusty van.

RUSH: This is Dr. Death, Dr. Kevorkian, making the case for his euthanasia movement which was to take people who weren't even terminally ill and talk them into dying and take them into his van and he would inject them. I forgot his method. But I don't know that everybody's ever really talked about crucifixion as dignified. That is mystifying for me. But let's move on here. Here is Dr. Death, another portion of that audio, the National Press Club, 1996.

KEVORKIAN: God sets things in motion and then hands off. Let humans run it. And that's why he set this country up the way it was. Hands-off? The Pope has got his hands on our neck. He's wringing it. Now, I'm not anti-Pope. Basically he can do whatever he wants and say whatever he wants. But I think he's got a grip on our government. I know he has a grip on the Michigan Supreme Court. Grip? He owns it. I know he's got a grip on our Supreme Court. Therefore, I don't care what any Supreme Court says. I don't care what any legislature does. Pass any law you want. I don't care.

RUSH: Here's your modern icon. This is the modern icon of the Culture of Death movement. Here he is, Dr. Death, Jack Kevorkian. Let's listen to one more from this speech. It happened July 29th, 1996 at the National Press Club, and the audience is members of the media. They're the ones who are laughing.

KEVORKIAN: We're trained to lie as we get older. That's the way you survive. That's the grief that society is lying. To yourselves and to others. And the epitome of lying is in the epitome of society, the government. I don't think what I've said is wrong so far. If there's any disagreement I'll hear about it later. These questions I'm asking, "Does that baboon heart become sacred?" You can't answer it. Why not? You know what sanctity is, don't you? Can the body be partly sacred? Is the fecal material in your intestines sacred? You're a human body. You're a biological organism like every other biological organism. You bleed when you cut and when you die you stink. Now, what's sacred about that?

RUSH: So you forgot about this? (asking staff) You forgot? A lot of people have forgotten because this is so unpleasant to remember. Who wants to run around remembering this kind of stuff? This is the modern hero of the Culture of Death movement, Dr. Jack Kevorkian -- and he epitomizes here what Podhoretz has said. We're just biological machines, miracles, we're all the same. We stink when we die. Dignified? What, what, what, what, what? So I play this. I just want to you find out the mind-set of people, and this guy's clearly unafraid to tell us what he thinks, which is a service. But it's clearly an illustration of some of the thinking that goes on about life and death among some of us, particularly our secularists, in this culture.

219 posted on 03/26/2005 8:49:29 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker
KEVORKIAN: Well, let's take what people think is a dignified death. Christ. Was that a dignified death? Do you think it's dignified to hang from wood with nails through your hands and feet, bleeding for three or four days and slowly dying? With people jabbing spears into your side and people jeering you? Do you think that's dignified? Not by a long shot. Had Christ died in my van (laughter) with people around him who loved him, the way it was, it would be far more dignified. My rusty van.

He was arrested one night, spent the night in some kind of prison, was abused some more, and crucified the next day and was on the cross for about 3 hours and was buried before sunset according to the Jewish custom iirc. 24 hours max.

This guy isn't very bible literate. Did he really say that? The rest of it is blasphemy as far as I am concerned.

Bible scholars, please help me out here.

248 posted on 03/26/2005 8:59:03 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Soul Seeker

Oh, don't even get me started!

I caught a part of a call into the Jerry Agar show in KC, where the guy was going off on how SELFISH the Shindlers were, since there were so many people that Terri could have been helping, if they would only allow her organs to be donated! She was dead anyway, so her organs should have been used to help "the living."

Jerry was beside himself, and I nearly drove my car off the road.

I swear, it seems like we're living in a Monty Python sketch!

Mark


268 posted on 03/26/2005 9:04:13 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Soul Seeker

Thanks for the transcript of Rush with the clips of Jack the Dripper.

At least here in Michigan, a Blue state BTW, Jack the Dripper was convicted of murder, and then given the maximum sentence the state allows by courageous Judge Jessica Cooper.

At the sentencing, Judge Cooper told Jack the Dripper: "You did what you did and you dared the world to stop you. Well sir, consider yourself stopped."


400 posted on 03/26/2005 9:56:39 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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