Posted on 03/26/2005 4:23:47 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
Saturday, March 26, 2005 6:22 p.m. EST Nazis Used Starvation to Kill
Confounding all conventional wisdom and human experience, many liberal groups and even some medical experts have argued for Terri Schiavos death.
They claim that starvation and dehydration is not painful or discomforting for her or anyone undergoing the experience.
In fact, they allege that such victims begin to experience "euphoria as the victims draw close to death. If such claims are true, we may have to rewrite the history of such notorious events as the Holocaust where starvation was the key process by which millions died and were later placed in crematoriums.
The internationally-accepted Geneva Convention which identifies starvation as a war crime also will have to be rewritten. Ditto for many statements made by reputable organizations many of them liberal, who have condemned the practice for decades.
Strange Bedfellows
Remember that statement about politics making strange bedfellows? Perhaps such is the case with liberal activists who want Terri to die from starvation and the Nazis who killed 13 million people.
As it turns out, starvation was the primary means of killing unwanted peoples.
Shortly after World War II, a U.S. congressional committee investigated the Nazi Holocaust and found that starvation was the main instrument of torture in the concentration camps.
The Committee notes the prisoners' daily diet "consisted generally of about one-half of a pound of black bread per day and a bowl of watery soup for noon and night, and not always that."
The report continued, "Notwithstanding the deliberate starvation program inflicted upon these prisoners by lack of adequate food, we found no evidence that the people of Germany as a whole were suffering from any lack of sufficient food or clothing. The contrast was so striking that the only conclusion which we could reach was that the starvation of the inmates of these camps was deliberate."
If we believe the New York Times, whats so bad about the Nazis starvation tactic?
A Times article relating to Schiavos death cited several "experts who offered the new view on starvation.
"From the data that is available, it is not a horrific thing at all," Dr. Linda Emanuel, the founder of the Education for Physicians in End-of-Life Care Project at Northwestern University, told the New York Times.
The Times also cites Dr. Sean Morrison, a professor of geriatrics and palliative care at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, who insists that starvation victims "generally slip into a peaceful coma."
"It's very quiet, it's very dignified - it's very gentle," he adds.
Despite the Times desire to turn the truth upside down, the facts speak for themselves:
To begin with, there is the long standing and internationally accepted Geneva Convention: "The prohibition to starve civilians as a method of warfare is included in Article 54 of Protocol I and Article 14 of Protocol II."
According to the International Criminal Court, starvation as a means of killing is a war crime. The Court noted: "Intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including willfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions' is a serious violation of the laws and customs of war [52]."
The liberal human rights organization, Amnesty International, has long cited starvation as inhumane. For example, in the aftermath of the Vietnam War, the group claimed that "scores of civilian deaths, predominantly among children, from starvation and injuries [were] sustained during the conflict." Amnesty International stated at the time that it "condemns in the strongest terms the use of starvation as a weapon of war against civilians as a clear and serious violation of Geneva Conventions that Laos has ratified."
Amnesty International also blasted North Korea after the UN reported that some 2 million North Koreans have died from starvation, adding that in total, 50 percent of the population doesn't have enough to eat.
Work And Progress, a liberal Web site, was critical of U.S. involvement in Afghanistan in 2001, and even claimed the U.S. military action there had caused up to 7.5 million Afghans to be threatened with starvation. The site went on to note: "Starvation is, quite literally, torturous. And the equation will seem just about right to many people: the atrocity that the U.S. government is willing to subject a handful of people to on U.S. soil, it is willing to subject millions to in some far off land."
In 2001, Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., a member of the Congressional Human Rights Caucus, offered up House Resolution 102, backed by three other lawmakers, noting that during World War II, the Axis Powers Germany, Italy and Japan noting that many of the 18,745 American soldiers captured during the war "were subjected to barbaric prison conditions and endured torture, starvation, and disease." The treatment of American POWs "violated international human rights principles," said the resolution.
In a report by the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, regarding the "Definition of the Right to Food," the commission recommended "the right to food and nutrition was a human right." The commission also advocated "the right to food in emergency situations" should "be taken into account," to "include the obligation of states to grant access to impartial humanitarian organizations to provide food aid and other humanitarian assistance."
The New York Times may well be remembered as the newspaper that was most outraged over photos of Iraqi terrorist suspects being mistreated by U.S. soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison but claimed that starvation was a benevolent way to die.
Of course, if the Times is right - and starvation causes "little discomfort" - the paper may have uncovered a valuable new tool in the war on terror.
One wonders how the Old Gray Lady would react if U.S. interrogators began to starve terrorist suspects in a bid to extract information.
Laughing about a woman being slowly dehydrated to death.
And you wonder what's "wrong" with *us*???
Judgenfuhrer Greer: "I am fully aware that death by starvation instead of gas chamber
WAS the penalty for people trying to escape Auschwitz.
It's back. For anyone who dares go over my Imperial head.
If you dare tell anyone else about this, my black-robed brethren Mullahs will have
both you and your family murdered by starvation in isolation, in the Pinellas County, Florida way ."
Yeah starvation's a real riot isn't it?
It's the husbands decision...leave it at that.
You guys are no different than the meatheads from MoveON.org: you will self-destruct and destroy any chance that your agenda will make further gains in the political arena.
It's Christians Gone Wild I tell ya!!
I agree!
What makes America great is NOT it's system of government with the three equal branches, NOT that it is a democracy, but that its people have been CHRISTIAN, with values taught in Scripture.
We now are a nation with chuches that don't even believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. We are secular, spitting in the face of God, encouraging wht He says is wrong, discouraging what He wants, ignoring all He has for us, and we could easily end up like any awful country or government.
How to stop or avoid that? Each individual must examine the evidence for the resurrection of Christ. If it is true, then His claims are true, that He is the incarnate God--we should each personally follow Him! He can heal our land and bring hope and a future back to our lives.
The Christian church is not a government, but it does a
Unlike DUh, where I imagine you are a big hit, you will not be booted from the fray. Please tell me how the party of compassion, the children, of sensitivity can justify judicial murder?
BTW, why don't you just admit that for you this is more about opposing Christianity than anything else. Your posting history reveals that bias.
Your pictorial link needs to be viewed by everyone. The communist chinese are antithetical to everything that the United States stands for. Always low prices, Always Wal*Mart.
Do you happen to have starvation photos from China "great leap forward"? Quite a few million starved then, IIRC. They would be more relevant; what you posted is non-sequitur.
If you think America is now equivalent to Nazi Germany then pack your bags and move to a nicer country.
Just click your boot heels, and throw out your right arm, and scream "Zieg Heil!"
You'll really feel much better.
Hey Zarf, ever see someone die from starvation and dehydration? I have. The loved-one's last words, one day before death, were "shoot me". Now that's what I call a melt-down.
According to Felos, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN.
For your edification, the "courts" other than Judge Greer's court have ruled on procedural grounds, not factual grounds.
It's the husbands decision...leave it at that.
But for which wife?
I notice, by the way, that you didn't respond to my question about famine. If starvation is such a peaceful wonderful death as you seem to think, then I would expect you to denounce famine relief efforts. So let's hear you live up to your rhetoric.
I don't think tin foil has a point of distinction but then I don't get a full signal.
Is depriving someone of food and water part of the American ideal? Of course not. It's foreign evil.
It's hardly over. But I'll just stay where I'm at. If no other reason than to be a thorn in your side.
And if you think that people opposed to a torturous death are the equivalent of the Taliban, then your own rhetoric would indicate it's time for you to find a new locale yourself.
Go back to DU. Oh, I forgot. It's closed to this subject. ROTFLOL.
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GREER DONOR |
AMOUNT |
POSITION |
ACTION |
Lawyers For |
Hamden Baskin III Felos & Felos Deborah Bushnell Gyneth S. Stanley Steven Nilsson Beth Wilson
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$500 & $500 |
Michael Schiavos Lawyer[s] |
Greer |
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Daniel Grieco
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$300 |
Employer of Michael Schiavo at time of Feb. 25, 1990 then attorneyOf record for Michael up until the malpractice award, |
Incident when injuries occurred to Terri,Reappeared as attorney for selected pleadings |
State/County |
Frank Nagatani |
$50 and $50
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DCF Attorney |
Squashed |
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Bernie McCabe |
In-Kind |
State Attorney |
Allowed underling to appear in campaign ad for Greer |
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Everett Rice |
$500 & In-Kind |
Sheriff/State Rep |
Didnt conduct criminal investigation into what really happened to Terri or allegations of abuse after initial incident |
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John Carassas |
$100
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Deputy Attorney General |
Florida Deputy Attorney General, involvement with |
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James Hellickson
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$150 & In Kind |
Assistant state attorney in office of Bernie McCabe, Pinellas/Pasco State Attorney |
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Paula Shea |
In Kind |
Assistant Pinellas Public Defender |
Appeared in Greer Campaign Ad |
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Andrew
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$100 |
Officer in Guardianship monitoring program and Guardian ad litem pool |
Was supposed to: |
Misc. People w connections |
Richard La Belle
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$100 |
Member of Board of Directors of |
Supposedly ACPD |
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Battaglia, Ross, Disus and Wein
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$250 |
Principal Kelli Crabb is past chairperson of Hospice Foundation of Florida Suncoast and member of Board of directors |
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Gus Bilirakis
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$40 cash |
Former Hospice Board member and of American Hellonic Education Progressive Assoc. (AHEPA) |
Felos past Governor |
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Divito and Higham
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$250 and $250 |
Law firm employed by St. Petersburg/Venice |
Terris Dioceses |
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