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Protests Outside Schiavo Hospice Chaotic
AP via Yahoo ^ | 3/26/05 | JILL BARTON,

Posted on 03/26/2005 3:08:40 PM PST by ma bell

When Johnson arrived, a police officer demanded identification; she had none. And after a hospice employee cleared her, another officer halted her for a search with a metal detector.

The delays lasted three to four minutes — the last of her grandfather's life.

"It's a terrible, extra obstacle to put in front of a family. ... Everything is about Schiavo," Johnson said. "It's all about her and in my family's case, it cost us dearly."

Woodside Hospice has 70 patients besides Schiavo, whose parents are desperately trying to have her feeding tube reconnected. Dozens of protesters have arrived from across the nation since the tube was removed March 18, and at least 15 have been arrested, prompting a police barricade around the facility and unprecedented security.

Family members visiting patients must pass through a police checkpoint to park, then show identification outside the door before another security screening inside. They also must walk by scores of signs decrying Schiavo's "crucifixion," "torture," and "starvation," plus navigate around hordes of media who have been camped outside.

"To have to maneuver through all of this and have a hostile environment outside when all they want is peace and quiet and to enjoy those few days they have left with a loved one is a horror," said Dr. Morton Getz, executive director of Douglas Gardens Hospice in Miami.

Getz said many people with a family member in a hospice have to make the same excruciating decision that courts have made for Schiavo.

"It's causing a lot of grief and questions in their own mind on whether they did the right thing," he said. "It's unconscionable to have a family member to be near the end stages of life and to get there, you have to walk through signs that say, 'Murderer.'"

Most protesters direct their signs and their chants against the courts and Michael Schiavo, Terri's husband, who insists she would not want to be kept alive artificially.

But walking through a hostile environment can only add stress to what's already an emotionally draining situation.

"It probably has the same psychological effect on the residents' families as it does on someone who is walking into an abortion clinic and facing signs and aggressive behavior," said Elizabeth Foley, a Florida International University law professor who specializes in bioethics.

Over the past few days, as Schiavo's parents' attempts to have their daughter's feeding tube reinserted repeatedly failed, signs outside the hospice have grown more desperate. Doctors have said Schiavo would probably die within a week or two of the feeding tube being removed.

Messages compare Michael Schiavo to Scott Peterson (news - web sites), convicted of killing his wife and unborn child in California, and John Evander Couey, who allegedly murdered a 9-year-old girl in Homosassa.

One woman in a wheelchair regularly moves up and down sidewalks in front of the hospice yelling in a megaphone, "We're disabled, not disposable!" and "Terri is a person, not a vegetable!"

Relatives of hospice residents say the clamor — intended to rattle Michael Schiavo — rattles their patience.

"It's a real pain in the neck," said Bill Douglass, whose mother-in-law is a resident. He said the only consolation is that she is "oblivious" to the outside scene.

 

Police and hospice officials say they are trying to minimize the intrusion on hospice residents and their families, and that the security measures are meant to protect the privacy and safety of all residents, not just Schiavo.

But Johnson, 24, said her 73-year-old grandfather, Thomas Bone, was restricted from moving freely around the hospice grounds during his final days. He died just hours after Terri Schiavo's feeding tube was removed and protests intensified.

"They've taken away hospice's greatest quality, that it is peaceful and serene and quiet and calming — and it's not fair," Johnson said.


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KEYWORDS: schiavo; terri; terrihysteria; terrischiavo
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To: northernlightsII

whoa, wait a minute there nor lights......I never ever said anyone can't be emotional at all......I said that when emotion overtakes our reasoning and logic and makes some espouse anarchy like last nights thread, well there it is where I would draw the line......


101 posted on 03/26/2005 4:14:42 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: UCANSEE2
No, I have nothing to hide.

Just like airport security, I've nothing to hide.

102 posted on 03/26/2005 4:15:29 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: ma bell; Agnes Heep; agrace; Aliska; amdgmary; AnAmericanMother; A-plus; atruelady; attagirl; ...
Hospice is basically synonymous with death. It's a place for those who have rejected life. For most of the victims of hospices, there is little or no reason for their deaths beyond their rejection of life, or their guardian's desire to be rid of them.

We don't need hospices.

103 posted on 03/26/2005 4:15:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: sgtbono2002

Do a little research on hospices and the mistreatment and abuse of the elderly and the sick before you cannonized the lot.
That very hospice is currently being investigated.


104 posted on 03/26/2005 4:16:43 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: ma bell
how should i know!? call up the reporter and find out! terri's parents are selfish and affecting OTHER PEOPLES lives in the process! look at this poor girl for example! She sounded very close to her grandfather, yet those idiots blocked her due to their unruly protesting on the behalf of her selfish parents.

Call them yourself as you apparently don't have a clue why this woman was running around in her PJ's 4 minutes before her grandpa died. And the idiots that blocked her were the cops, not the protesters. Try getting some info before posting silly claims just because some MSM hitpiece says so.

105 posted on 03/26/2005 4:16:44 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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To: ScreamingFist

hey lightening..the cops were there becuase of the unruly protesters, get it? lay off your whiskey!


107 posted on 03/26/2005 4:18:38 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: editor-surveyor
It's a place for those who have rejected life. For most of the victims of hospices, there is little or no reason for their deaths beyond their rejection of life, or their guardian's desire to be rid of them.

Huh?

Welcome to Earth.

108 posted on 03/26/2005 4:18:47 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: the Deejay

The Schindlers are stripped searched and scanned with a wand before they can get to Terri's room. It takes 10-15 minutes for them to go through the process,which was explained by the brother on Hannityon Wed.night.


109 posted on 03/26/2005 4:19:18 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: seamole

I was just kidding ;0)

"Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great... and if a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate..."

;0)


110 posted on 03/26/2005 4:19:53 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: northernlightsII

Not telling the whole truth.


111 posted on 03/26/2005 4:20:26 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: NorCalRepub; the invisib1e hand
"well considering her grandfather died, I would cut her some slack"

No 'slack' coming from here! - She sent him there to die, rather than be restored to health.

112 posted on 03/26/2005 4:20:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: T.Smith

That hardly qualifies as an intelligent refutation of his opinion.

Name calling is not serving either side well.


113 posted on 03/26/2005 4:20:59 PM PST by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: ma bell
"Everything is about Schiavo," Johnson said. "It's all about her and in my family's case, it cost us dearly."

Security, doncha know. This dangerous woman must be prevented from escaping her execution. < /sarcasm >

"To have to maneuver through all of this and have a hostile environment outside when all they want is peace and quiet and to enjoy those few days they have left with a loved one is a horror,"

Not nearly as much of a horror as having to stand by helplessly watching your child be murdered at the pleasure of an adulterous husband and a black-hearted robed dictator.

"It's causing a lot of grief and questions in their own mind on whether they did the right thing,"

Yes; we certainly wouldn't want anybody rethinking the acceptability of killing.

"It's a real pain in the neck,"

How tragic for you. I'm sure you will get a personal apology for your inconvenience from the almighty judge when this is all over. < /sarcasm>

"They've taken away hospice's greatest quality, that it is peaceful and serene and quiet and calming — and it's not fair," Johnson said."

Well, you're right about that. It's not fair. It is also not fair that Terri should have been taken to a place of death when she was very much alive. It is not fair that our culture which traditionally cherished and valued life is being swallowed up by one that has an obession with death. It is not fair that that the courts violate the Constitution to pronounce a torturous death sentence on an innocent woman. There are a great many things not fair about this whole sorry, wretched mess, but I guess you'll just have to suck it up and deal with it like the rest of us are being forced to do.

114 posted on 03/26/2005 4:21:04 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: NorCalRepub
well hello?????.......seems like we fought a war with England over this...

Well, yes....after a bunch of people 'took the law into their own hands.' I'm sure there were many, many colonists who took your view back before the Revolution.

Just an illustration that your silly 'tut-tutting' about 'taking the law into your own hands' is simply dependent on your view of the issue. I'm sure you revere the founding fathers for their principled stand, especially when they 'took the law into their own hands.' Frankly, it's the reason they're the 'Founding Fathers.'

if you are ready to pick up arms and defy the laws of the land, then by all means, fire the first shot......again, the fringe element generalizes to areas not relevent to the discussion......hell, I could find any synopsis or dissertaion refuting any and all opinions you offer on any subject.......but of course, cooler heads will prevail......nice pics though......good job

Do I advocate revolution? No, primarily because it wouldn't work and now it really doesn't matter. IMHO America is finished, and the Schiavo milemarker just shows that it's moved that much closer to collapse. We are now no better than Europe, because we have sacrificed our moral authority.

115 posted on 03/26/2005 4:21:04 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: ma bell
thats his choice

Whose choice? The father's choice? Are you openly advocating the right of people to euthanize the infirm simply because they are a guardian? This is exactly why the Schiavo case is so important.

116 posted on 03/26/2005 4:21:12 PM PST by the808bass
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To: the invisib1e hand

That's what I thought after reading this article, too. Look at me!! The protesters chant, "look at ME. ME ME ME."


117 posted on 03/26/2005 4:21:20 PM PST by axlhuckleberry
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To: editor-surveyor
We don't need hospices.

Wrong. They can be a viable place for end of life care...I know several terminal cancer patients that spent their last hours in hospice care - and they were treated very humanely. The staff was very respectful, and was there for the families before, and after their loved one's death.

In Terri's case, she should have been in a skilled care-rehab facility, not her husband's lawyer's death warehouse.

118 posted on 03/26/2005 4:21:24 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Michael Schiavo = Scott Peterson - 1 boat.)
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To: ma bell

That's the point of protesting, to change one's mind about a situation.


119 posted on 03/26/2005 4:23:11 PM PST by FeeinTennessee (This black chick PROUDLY supports President George W. Bush!)
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To: ma bell
they are selfish for prolonging her life when she has no hope to live a half normal life.

You are completely out of line in making this statement.

120 posted on 03/26/2005 4:23:17 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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