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Judge Greer denies Schindler family's last hope to save Terri Schiavo
MSNBC ^ | 3/26/2005 | N/A

Posted on 03/26/2005 9:10:00 AM PST by sockmonkey

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: greer; itsaheckofacountry; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terristarvation2005
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To: Catspaw
It's truly bad lawyering on the part of the Schindler's lawyers.

Oh, I do agree, but that doesn't mean that Greer HAD to reject it. I beleive it took him all night to come up the justification.

481 posted on 03/26/2005 11:20:46 AM PST by ShowMeMom (We will remember Terri in '06.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks; Jim Robinson
"Free Republic is now no better than Democratic Underground. Emotion, hysteria, lies, advocation of violence, and calls for ignoring the constitution abound and are treated as the right and correct thing, while anyone speaking fact, truth, and rationality are scapegoated. "

I won't even address your other false claims, but your claim that FR tolerates advocation of violence needs to be rejected and corrected.

Early on, Jim Robinson specifically posted a warning, that anyone advocating violence will have their account suspended, and no calls for violence have been tolerated. I have not seen a single post like that -- either nobody made them, or the AMs pulled them immediately.

You should be ashamed of yourself, making such false claims against FR.

482 posted on 03/26/2005 11:21:20 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Googled Section Two of the FL constitution yet, Chad?


483 posted on 03/26/2005 11:22:37 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: LRS
re: Jeb Bush will have to order the State AG

Well if history is any indication it won't do a bit of good. They'll have her cremated before Jeb Bush even has time to consult with his legal staff on what he should or should not do. The one bright spot is that they will have to get a death certificate to have her cremated. That means a physician will have to sign the certificate. Or I guess Judge Greer could just scratch one out on a table napkin and declare it official and certified. The power the legislative and executive branches of both the state and federal government have given this man by executive fiat is staggering! This has got to have emboldened him and his ilk all over America.
484 posted on 03/26/2005 11:22:42 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Sure that point exists. THe point is way off though.

You can be guaranteed that the law in Florida will be dealt with, to make sure this type of travesty never happens again - THAT is where our fight should go, not into senseless violence.

It's up to the voters in Florida now to change the law that allowed Terri to be murdered. It's up to them to vote out the judge that allowed it to happen. That type of change is still possible - but it actually has to be done.

When we no longer can effect change legally, the time for extreme measures is there. We are not at that point yet.


485 posted on 03/26/2005 11:22:46 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
When I give it thought, I find that it's hypocrisy---------

Ooops, there's that word you are trapped with!

486 posted on 03/26/2005 11:22:47 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

Well said!

If we give God something to work with - obeying His Word - then He intervenes. He doesn't do the work HE commanded us to do....give water to the thirst, etc., etc.

We were given the opportunity for Him to display His "extraordinary" AFTER we do our part. We didn't step out in faith.


487 posted on 03/26/2005 11:23:18 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Well, that makes you not only a hypocrite, but a liar as well.--------

There you go again........"hypocrite".

488 posted on 03/26/2005 11:24:08 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: sockmonkey

Of course.


489 posted on 03/26/2005 11:24:38 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
They're coming for Jeb.


490 posted on 03/26/2005 11:24:38 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: FairOpinion
I have not seen a single post like that -- either nobody made them, or the AMs pulled them immediately.

I haven't either. Not a one.

The only violence I've seen advocated here has been against Terri (if you consider what is happening to her now to be "violence", which I absolutely do).

491 posted on 03/26/2005 11:24:46 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (gulag. concentration camp. planned parenthood. hospice. let me know when you find a difference.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Just as soon as they finish Terri off.


492 posted on 03/26/2005 11:25:15 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (gulag. concentration camp. planned parenthood. hospice. let me know when you find a difference.)
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To: jwpjr

You better believe it. Judges all over this country are licking their chops over the prospect of being the next one who gets to stick it to the legislative and/or executive branch (be it state OR federal).


493 posted on 03/26/2005 11:25:19 AM PST by workerbee
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Ok, so saying that about me is ok, even though it's patently false. But, if I say anythng unkind, I'm the bad guy. ----------- Got it, hypocrite.

Ooops, there you go again!

494 posted on 03/26/2005 11:25:56 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Come on down to Felos' Hotel Auschwitz for awhile, in front of the armed guards with their snarling German Shepherds...watch the Schindler family come out weeping from visiting Terri, where she is being killed by thirst, and where they can't even offer her a damp rag for her cracked and bleeding lips or her swollen tongue, and let's see how emotional YOU get.

If you don't have emotions over this one, man, you have no emotions left...


495 posted on 03/26/2005 11:26:13 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: FairOpinion; Jim Robinson

It's not tolerated, but it is happening. With increasing frequency - though it's become more subtle.

People are also posting about how they "hope someone takes out Michael SHiavo" - that, too, is advocating violence...

People are posting how they hope "someone goes after Greer" - that, too, is advocating violence...

Those are examples just from this thread.

Conservatives are demanding the intervention of the UN - an organization that on any other day would draw boos and hisses from us... That is irrational thinking, but it is more and more prevelent...

We have conservativbes claiming that America is now a NAzi country - irrational, but it's happening. Is that what Free Republic want's to be know for? I'd hate to see us marginalized like that, and I don't think Jim would like to see that either.

Why you felt the need to add Jim to this thread is beyond me. I've been pretty accurate in


496 posted on 03/26/2005 11:27:18 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I want Terri Schiavo to live, but this misguided effort to take down George W. and Jeb Bush is wrong.


497 posted on 03/26/2005 11:27:21 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: Deo volente

God also requires us to move. And we are responsible for that. God can tell Moses to lead the people; but, if Moses doesn't move, the people go nowhere.


498 posted on 03/26/2005 11:27:26 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
You can be guaranteed that the law in Florida will be dealt with, to make sure this type of travesty never happens again

I believe you believe that.

I also believe you couldn't be more wrong.

The next time a travesty like this happens, it will be a fraction of the story it is now. Just like Columbine vs. last week's school massacre.

499 posted on 03/26/2005 11:27:54 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (gulag. concentration camp. planned parenthood. hospice. let me know when you find a difference.)
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To: Cboldt
I haven't read Greer's opinion from this afternoon, but if I understand, the allegation that Terri spoke on the 18th is being excluded because the allegation wasn't made in a timely fashion.

I have no doubt Judge Greer can find an excuse to exclude anything, including allegations central to the whole thesis of why this poor woman can be starved in such a cruel fashion.

He seems hell-bent on killing Mrs. Schiavo, to the point that he has now defied the Congress, the President, and the Governor. Daggone if he hasn't done better at that than I would have ever thought any probate judge could, but when all of the judiciary seems to see things your way, you can do a lot, it appears.

500 posted on 03/26/2005 11:27:55 AM PST by snowsislander (Isa41:17-When the poor and needy seek water,and there is none,and their tongue faileth for thirst...)
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