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Presidential Pardon Could Neutralize Judge Greer
Newsmax.com ^ | 3/24/05 | Carl Limacher and Newsmax staff

Posted on 03/24/2005 3:29:58 PM PST by carl in alaska

Legal experts say that if Florida Gov. Jeb Bush defies state judge George Greer and orders state troopers to rescue Terri Schiavo, he and any other officials who participate in such a move risk a contempt citation from Greer that could put them in jail.

But with a powerful ally in the White House, Terri Schiavo's would-be rescuers have nothing to fear from the runaway judge.

In 2001, President Clinton pardoned drug dealers, international money launderers - even FALN terrorists, who were spared in a blatant bid to win votes for his wife's Senate campaign.

The episode taught a bewildered nation that the powers of the president to pardon anyone he wishes are absolute and irrefutable.

Today, Clinton is the most popular American politician in the world and his wife is the frontrunning candidate for her party's presidential nomination. In other words, the Pardongate scandal's lasting political fallout was nil.

He even pardoned his own brother, who had been convicted of selling cocaine.

Should Gov. Bush decide to rescue Terri Schiavo by force in violation of Judge Greer's order, President Bush could do the same for his brother - along with any other officials the right-to-die judge tries to punish.

Would there be controversy? You bet. Would the Bush family's political enemies try to capitalize? Absolutely.

But a nation that forgives one president for pardoning terrorists will certainly forgive another who uses his pardon power to save a life.

Once Terri Schiavo begins to receive the treatment she's been denied for more than a decade, her condition will almost certainly improve. Nurses who have cared for her have already testified she can speak and eat without a feeding tube, in stark contradiction of Judge Greer's findings.

Terri's recovery, however minimal, would serve as powerful evidence that the Bush brothers did the right thing in coming to her rescue.

In the meantime, the nation would be spared the haunting specter of its government starving an innocent citizen to death.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: spycatcher; MeekOneGOP
OK, troll?

EXCUSE ME???!!! I don't think so. My comments were directed to dirtboy, not to you. And exactly what anal BS are you taking about? I was merely playing along and I found the whole idea of W pardoning Jeb humorous in the first place, but then other posters decided to take it way too seriously.

The reference to "I am ZOT proof" is in reference to a ZOT thread from back in January.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1314525/posts

Meek, this guy actually thinks I'm a troll... LOL

181 posted on 03/25/2005 8:55:59 AM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: Dog Gone

We are already thrown out of control - or I guess you think it is lawful for the Mass Supreme Court to enact law requiring gay marriage? Time for a constitutional war to get our laws back.


182 posted on 03/25/2005 8:58:38 AM PST by sasafras (unity not diversity is what made America great)
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To: mysto

ok i am not advocating this but just asking....what if something were to happen to michael schiavo? and i mean as in his demise with these folks attempting to get guns and such. if he were killed, would this end the quest to murder terri or would the judges ensure it anyway?


183 posted on 03/25/2005 8:58:41 AM PST by applpie
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To: carl in alaska

" Nurses who have cared for her have already testified she can speak and eat without a feeding tube, in stark contradiction of Judge Greer's findings."



He is revolting.


184 posted on 03/25/2005 8:58:56 AM PST by Gimme
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To: mysto

What you posted states the pardon would restore state and federal rights. It says nothing about the offense to which the pardon applied being a state offense. I think there is a difference.


185 posted on 03/25/2005 8:59:18 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: mysto
See what I mean? I even pointed out that I was joking about your tagline and said "Get it?" And you still thought I was serious and ran to tell your mommy! ROTFLMAO! That's exactly what I meant about you being anal, humorless and seriously needing to get a clue.
186 posted on 03/25/2005 9:00:09 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: applpie

I wouldn't even start to go there...you're not dragging me into THAT hypothetical.


187 posted on 03/25/2005 9:02:59 AM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: mysto
You? A troll? haha!

I see that post has been removed now. :^)


188 posted on 03/25/2005 9:03:52 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: spycatcher

You already got one of your posts (176) pulled for name calling and personal attacks... I'd say you're the one treading on thin ice with the mods, not me.


189 posted on 03/25/2005 9:04:15 AM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: sasafras
We can regain control of the judiciary only by remaining in control of the other branches of government and making wise judicial appointments.

In the case of Massachussetts, that's a hopeless local matter.

190 posted on 03/25/2005 9:04:42 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: spycatcher; MeekOneGOP

I didn't run to my mommy... I just figured Meek would have fun laughing at you too.


191 posted on 03/25/2005 9:06:25 AM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: mysto


It's absolutely hilarious that you could be so seriously confused when someone jokes as an aside about your tagline in reference to a discussion about joking about taglines!

What are the odds?? You take the nobel prize for cluelessness. Hands down.


192 posted on 03/25/2005 9:09:58 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher

You're the one who needs to get a clue... notice how your post 176 is gone... the mods fail to see the humor.


193 posted on 03/25/2005 9:11:11 AM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: Trust but Verify

As far as I know the new affadavits by the nurses are legit. I'm not really sure when they were sworn and witnessed, but the conservative media is reporting that this is "new information," as in sworn this week. It will take some digging to find out precisely when they were sworn out.


194 posted on 03/25/2005 9:13:11 AM PST by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Teddy's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: mysto


Actually you set Meek up to look like an total idiot because Meek trusted you had a grasp on the flow and subtleties of the discussion. Oops. Meek may want to be more careful about trusting you next time.


195 posted on 03/25/2005 9:13:14 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher; MeekOneGOP

Why don't you let Meek speak for himself...


196 posted on 03/25/2005 9:13:53 AM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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To: carl in alaska; Peach
Peach,

Carl and I have a question you might know the answer to. When were the affadavits of the nurses who claim Michael was abusive executed? Some say they're brand new, but it seems to me they have been out there awhile but were just now made public.

197 posted on 03/25/2005 9:17:25 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: mysto

Meek already opened mouth and inserted foot:


You? A troll? haha!

I see that post has been removed now. :^)


188 posted on 03/25/2005 12:03:52 PM EST by MeekOneGOP


Meek speaking was exactly what I was referring to. You set Meek up to look stupid since he didn't know the whole conversation was about tagline referrals. OK, "troll?" Get it? I'm not saying you're a troll. It's a joke. Like dirtboy is a drooling moron.


198 posted on 03/25/2005 9:20:40 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: carl in alaska

Who cares if the law is on his side.

he has the POWER.

"Might invariably makes right."
-Friedrich Nietzsche


199 posted on 03/25/2005 9:21:02 AM PST by Chef Dajuan (BAM!)
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To: spycatcher
OK, "troll?" Get it?
Well obviously the mods didn't get it.
200 posted on 03/25/2005 9:22:50 AM PST by mysto ("I am ZOT proof" --- famous last words of a troll.)
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