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Presidential Pardon Could Neutralize Judge Greer
Newsmax.com ^ | 3/24/05 | Carl Limacher and Newsmax staff

Posted on 03/24/2005 3:29:58 PM PST by carl in alaska

Legal experts say that if Florida Gov. Jeb Bush defies state judge George Greer and orders state troopers to rescue Terri Schiavo, he and any other officials who participate in such a move risk a contempt citation from Greer that could put them in jail.

But with a powerful ally in the White House, Terri Schiavo's would-be rescuers have nothing to fear from the runaway judge.

In 2001, President Clinton pardoned drug dealers, international money launderers - even FALN terrorists, who were spared in a blatant bid to win votes for his wife's Senate campaign.

The episode taught a bewildered nation that the powers of the president to pardon anyone he wishes are absolute and irrefutable.

Today, Clinton is the most popular American politician in the world and his wife is the frontrunning candidate for her party's presidential nomination. In other words, the Pardongate scandal's lasting political fallout was nil.

He even pardoned his own brother, who had been convicted of selling cocaine.

Should Gov. Bush decide to rescue Terri Schiavo by force in violation of Judge Greer's order, President Bush could do the same for his brother - along with any other officials the right-to-die judge tries to punish.

Would there be controversy? You bet. Would the Bush family's political enemies try to capitalize? Absolutely.

But a nation that forgives one president for pardoning terrorists will certainly forgive another who uses his pardon power to save a life.

Once Terri Schiavo begins to receive the treatment she's been denied for more than a decade, her condition will almost certainly improve. Nurses who have cared for her have already testified she can speak and eat without a feeding tube, in stark contradiction of Judge Greer's findings.

Terri's recovery, however minimal, would serve as powerful evidence that the Bush brothers did the right thing in coming to her rescue.

In the meantime, the nation would be spared the haunting specter of its government starving an innocent citizen to death.


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I would love to see them do this to save Terri, but they need to be sure that Jeb has the law on his side and that Greer is overstepping his authority. If Jeb has the law on his side, then I say go for it and tell Greer to pound sand in his playpen.
1 posted on 03/24/2005 3:29:58 PM PST by carl in alaska
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To: carl in alaska

Getting late, is it not?


2 posted on 03/24/2005 3:31:04 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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Sorry, but I misspelled the author's name. Can you correct that to read Carl Limbacher.


3 posted on 03/24/2005 3:31:10 PM PST by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Teddy's speeches are just one big snore.)
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President Bush could not pardon his brother in this matter, because it would be a state issue, not a federal one.

I wish folks would think before writing and posting this stuff.

4 posted on 03/24/2005 3:31:52 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: carl in alaska

If we want to be thrown out of control of the Senate and White House, we should definitely pursue this ridiculous idea.


5 posted on 03/24/2005 3:32:22 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: carl in alaska

This has already been posted and I'm going to post the same question had on the last thread.

Does the president even have the power to pardon in what would be a state-level case?


6 posted on 03/24/2005 3:33:05 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (He's (Bush) ruining everything we worked for. ~Aging communist, who lives at a "Red" nursing home.)
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President Bush could not pardon his brother in this matter, because it would be a state issue, not a federal one.

The President's pardon power is NOT limited to Federal offenses.

7 posted on 03/24/2005 3:33:43 PM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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To: sonsofliberty2000 It is time for President Bush to issue a Pardon for Terri. Is that possible? This is outrageous.

56 posted on 03/21/2005 2:36:17 PM PST by The Grim Freeper [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

Great minds think alike, I guess...

C'mon, President Bush. Do the right thing.

8 posted on 03/24/2005 3:34:14 PM PST by The Grim Freeper
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To: carl in alaska
Today, Clinton is the most popular American politician in the world and his wife is the frontrunning candidate for her party's presidential nomination.

And the people who think that should truly get their food and water taken away.

9 posted on 03/24/2005 3:34:29 PM PST by Imaverygooddriver (ALL MY BASE ARE BELONG TO YOU)
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To: carl in alaska

There is LESS THAN ZERO chance of this scenario happening, however it would be something to witness!!


10 posted on 03/24/2005 3:34:31 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: carl in alaska

People people people, get a grip, two wrongs do not make a right. God will handle it the way HE wants to handle it, period. HE will put people in place to either save Terri or not, HIS will be done.


11 posted on 03/24/2005 3:34:44 PM PST by rockabyebaby (If you're not part of the solution, YOU ARE the problem.)
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To: dirtboy

Presidential pardons trump state laws. I know it's hard to believe but the Prez has absolute power to pardon anyone on any conviction in any court within the USA.


12 posted on 03/24/2005 3:35:39 PM PST by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Teddy's speeches are just one big snore.)
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That is ridiculous! Jeb Bush isn't going to risk his political future...Even if her tube was reinserted she might die anyway now.


13 posted on 03/24/2005 3:36:15 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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It's not wrong if the law is really on Jeb's side and Greer is out of bounds.


14 posted on 03/24/2005 3:36:49 PM PST by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Teddy's speeches are just one big snore.)
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To: carl in alaska

"Should Gov. Bush decide to rescue Terri Schiavo by force in violation of Judge Greer's order, President Bush could do the same for his brother - along with any other officials the right-to-die judge tries to punish.'

But it won't 'save Terry'. Judge Greer would just remove her from the hospital, return her to the hospice, and remove the feeding tube. What then? How many times would Bush pardon his brother?


16 posted on 03/24/2005 3:37:30 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: carl in alaska

I would love to see them do this to save Terri...

I've sitten here and read and listened to all of the arguments on this issue. I think 'Terri' died in 1990. This event has become a circus, and that is not right.

To demonize and condemn thoughtful people for drawing this conclusion, which is the conclusion of our legal and political system, is grandstanding on par with the worst of the Left.

17 posted on 03/24/2005 3:37:37 PM PST by ml1954
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"President Bush could not pardon his brother in this matter, because it would be a state issue, not a federal one.
I wish folks would think before writing and posting this stuff."

No kidding. This is a joke. Isn't Newsmax supposed to be a somewhat legit publication. Makes me wonder.


18 posted on 03/24/2005 3:38:04 PM PST by OneTimeLurker
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This shouled just be seen as a back up plan. Jeb Bush would never be convicted of anything.


19 posted on 03/24/2005 3:38:20 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: carl in alaska
Presidential Pardon Could Neutralize Judge Greer

Let's at least try to stay in the realm of reality.

20 posted on 03/24/2005 3:38:41 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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