Posted on 03/23/2005 5:35:31 PM PST by gentlestrength
The spiritual advisor of the Schindlers, Bro. O'Donnell, said the Dept. of Children and Families has had a new physician examine Terri and that "he DID go into her room and WAS at her side and DID observe her."
Department of Children and Families, are the department if someone is being physically abused, or the elderly, and "they have the authority" to take her into protective custody.
He continued, "what is being done to her now constitutes" that, and that DCF should "be taking her into protective custody."
Cooper: "Aren't people being taken off feeding tubes all the time?" Brother O'Donnell: "When they're DYING. But she was not dying. She could live another 20, 40 years."
"She's the only person who has been COURT ORDERED to have her tubes removed. Not 'The guardian MAY" but the guardian 'shall' remove her tubes."
CNN checked on the facticity of this last claim, and found that "There is ONLY ONE other case, Nancy Beth Cuzan in which the court ordered the tube MUST be removed."
Dr.Sanjay Gupta says if Terri is in the minimally conscious state, her eyes open spontaneously. She must do one of the following: --follow simple commands (to show she can hear and understand) --give yes or no responses
Michael Schavio has friends in the Sheriffs department so for some reason none of these findings are being investigated..
Oh. More than 10 hours would be OK, too.
IYER fed her and she swallowed just fine. The HINO put her on the tube to save money.
Do the court documents refute these propositions, or are they incomplete?
I think if Terri sat up and said, "I'm thirsty", Judge Greer would strike it from the record.
BTTT
I think you're right. The recording that supposedly took place on 3/18, and was aired on Drudge didn't sound like there was nobody in there. She groaned in a manner that seemed like she was suffering, but it abated the longer her father spoke with her. She sounded very much like a person with Down's Syndrome, not like a brain stem on continuous play.
You forgot the part about me being bloodthirsty.
Yes, death is the one thing you can't get out of as some Freeper quoted Winston Churchill.
And putting Terri to death may be not letting God work a miracle. Look at the verified medical miracles from Lourdes.
We don't have to be brilliant; we don't have to be superheroes; we don't have to have the crowd supporting us. We just need to do what is the simple moral thing to do in this case. Feed Terri.
It's implicit.
FDLE Agent Implicates McCabe in Halting Schiavo Probe; New Evidence, Subpoena Could Save Terri
Have you been here, PKM?
http://www.theempirejournal.com/
As we've discussed before, it even goes beyond what has been exposed so far.
Absent a flatline, there is ALWAYS hope.
Yep and you are farther north than I am here in Oklahoma -- no one does this with the whole world watching unless the consequences are really bad.
I agree. The right decision has been made many years ago, unfortunately it took until now to be carried out.
Don't bother Peach with this... she ignores anything that contradicts her pre-determination that Terri should be starved so mercifully.
This neurologist who Jeb Bush mentioned in his press conference earlier today, William Cheshire, says outright that he believes that "it can be ethically permissible to discontinue artificially provided nutrition and hydration for parsons in a permanent vegetative state." But having "met and observed Ms. Schiavo in person" he doesn't believe this should be happening to Terri Schiavo."He states that "There remain, in fact, huge uncertainties in regard to Terri's true neurological status." She hasn't been fully evaluated by a neurologist for three years, he says, has not had an MRI or a PET. And some of the technology to determine if a patient is in a minimally conscious state has only emerged in the last few years. "New facts have come to light in the last few years that should be weighed in the neurological assessment of Terri Schiavo."
"He writes that Terri Schiavo "demonstrates a number of behaviors that I believe cast a reasonable doubt on the prior diagnosis of PVS." Among these observations, he pinpoints: "Her behavior is frequently context-specific. For example, her facial expression brightens and she smiles in response to the voice of familiar persons such as her parents or her nurses...Several times I witness Terri briefly, albeit inconsistently, laugh in response to a humoroius comment someone in the room had made. I did not see her laugh in the absence of someone else's laughter."..
The blockquote above is from an article at the NRO site, but I am unable to find it.
Rather than rely on evidence presended by posters, I urge all readers to check the raw testimony and court proceedings for themselves, and draw your own conclusions.
Credit to "A Citizen Reporter" for sharing this link and URL with Peach and others at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1368900/posts?page=334#334
DISGRACEFUL!!!!!
“No. I would have her beheaded. I'll 'Kopechne' anyone I want.
There will be no CSI here of this inconvenient 'bitch'; just a nice cremation".
WATER AND WARM MEALS SINCE ORDER-TO-MURDER-AN-INVALID BY REAPER AND JUDGE GREER
Murderer-At-Will Judge Greer 21
.................................................................................... Terri Shiavo 0
..................................................................................... Lee Malvo 18
I would normally agree with you, but we have our experts here who have said repeatedly that the doctor who has the correct diagnosis spent 10 hours with her. Al the rest who spent less than that are wrong. /sarcasm
"That's 45 minutes more than the doctor who Greer used to say that Terri was pvs, who I might add is also in the death movement with Felos. He even claimed that people who were pvs didn't have any constitutional rights last night on Hannity & Colmes."
Well said.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT:
If it's true that there was no movement and no sounds from Terri today I guess they were wrong anyway. **If all her movements and sounds are "involuntary" then she would have been making those same movements today.**
"Involuntary" movement does not stop because there is no food or water. She is dyeing now, they are killing her!!
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