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DCF Considers Removing Schiavo from Hospice by Force
Palm Beach Post ^ | 3.23.05 | Dara Kam

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04

State officials say they are considering removing Terri Schiavo from hospice, by force if necessary, despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.

Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families, said Wednesday morning that her staff is relying on a state law that gives the department the authority to intervene on behalf of a vulnerable adult who is 'suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury.'

Hadl said that the DCF would have to file a petition in order to remove Schiavo, but that 'it doesn't mean we'd have to have judicial approval in advance of taking the action if we believed it met the threshold for doing it.'

Hadl said that seven years of court rulings backing Schiavo's husband Michael, in his contention that Terri Schiavo did not wish to be kept alive artificially would not stop the DCF from taking action.

'We're not compelled to look at prior judicial proceedings,' Hadl said.

What we are compelled to look at is the presenting circumstances and any allegiations of abuse and neglect that we have recieved. So we have to deal with those and fufill out statutory responsibility.'

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: XR7
What a proud day for that officer.

"What'd you do at work today, hon?"

"Oh, not much. I arrested a kid who was trying to help a dying woman."

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

621 posted on 03/23/2005 5:38:27 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Dante3
I just saw Michael's brother on Nancy Grace show. He lied, saying that her parents could visit and comfort her anytime they want to and that her lips are being kept moist.

Awwwww how compassionate.

I think I'm going to be sick.

622 posted on 03/23/2005 5:40:33 PM PST by Tom602 (I used to suffer from DIPS!! Democrat Induced Profanity Syndrome. Now I just smile... :^D)
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To: justche
Life isn't fair, and life doesn't throw the punches we all wish it did. But we must not allow someone who doesn't meet our standards of rationality to be literally starved and thrown away. This isn't about the right to die with dignity, this is a case someone choosing to kill another with the court's blessing.

You are correct. Terri choose to end her life instead of living like a vegetable. You would do the same. Or is "living" to you following a mickey mouse balloon around?

623 posted on 03/23/2005 5:41:13 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Two-Bits
It is time for the Republican Party to get their act together or we need to seriously think about starting a new political party that believes in life.

Another poster who wants to punish the party that is trying to do something. This mentality is rampant.

624 posted on 03/23/2005 5:41:28 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: glowworm
This entire thing is so bizarre, we treat animals better.
625 posted on 03/23/2005 5:41:59 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: Jimmyclyde

One day you will ask, "Lord, when did I see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?" He will answer you, "Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me." And you will go off to eternal punishment.


626 posted on 03/23/2005 5:42:46 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: truthluva
That's inaccurate. Michael, his brother and his brother's wife said that. Less than 20 judges said, "Well, if you say so".

Wrong. Both sides had their chance in court. The courts have said that it was Terri's wish NOT to live like a vegetable.

627 posted on 03/23/2005 5:43:43 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: scot taylor
We have become a disgusting society that will only be saved by the grace of GOD because we are to foolish to save ourselves. SAD!

Amen, we argue niceties of the "law" while horrors occur around us. In biblical times, we would have been "Pharisees."

628 posted on 03/23/2005 5:44:53 PM PST by Theodore R. (Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns? Is it cowardice?)
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To: Jimmyclyde
courts have said

And that is the last word! Where is old Andrew Jackson when we need him for the right reason?

629 posted on 03/23/2005 5:47:25 PM PST by Theodore R. (Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns? Is it cowardice?)
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To: adc
When Terri was actually eating...Monster Mike...made everyone stop and put a feeding tube in her...they've been saying she is PVS....Jeb has another doc saying she has been miss diagnosed....she is NOT a PVS...anyway that's what bases Monster Mike, Greer, Felos gives for pulling her feeding tube....she is not TERMINAL she is inconvenient for Monster Mike....she has NO business whatsoever in even being in a Hospice facility....that's only for terminal patients....that's why soooo many folks are horrified by what's taking place with Terri....
630 posted on 03/23/2005 5:48:20 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Jimmyclyde

Clydye writes:
Take a look at her my friend.

That is not life.

She has been force feed for 15 years.

Over 20 judges have said that it was not Terri's wish to remain in that pathetic state.

No rational person would want too.




I repeat, your are not on your deathbed either.

I expected you to make the connection and not play a dumbass.

I was wrong...


631 posted on 03/23/2005 5:48:23 PM PST by Rain-maker
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To: Jimmyclyde

"Both sides had their chance in court. The courts have said that it was Terri's wish NOT to live like a vegetable."

1. A "chance" in a corrupt court is no chance.

2. She's not a vegetable, or "like a vegetable."

3. When told she was going to be killed, she tried to say, "I want to live," then burst into tears.


632 posted on 03/23/2005 5:49:29 PM PST by dsc
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To: Dog Gone
I am tired of the talk now lets see the walk. I can not believe our country is powerless to give food and water to a human being because of a crooked judge. We can take our military and free millions from going thru the same thing and yet we can not save one woman in our own country.

I can not fathom how it feels to stand by helplessly and watch your innocent daughter be starved to death because a judge has ordered it. I do not know this Country.....Again my son is in the Military risking his life so we can starve human beings simply because they are handicapped. Republicans better get their act together and those Democrats that believe in life better start doing some serious thinking. They got away with abortion but they will not get away with this....

633 posted on 03/23/2005 5:49:30 PM PST by Two-Bits (I AM HEARTSICK AND SOUL MAD!!!! DO NOT GET A DNR IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE PUT TO DEATH.)
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To: Theodore R.
Amen, we argue niceties of the "law" while horrors occur around us.

I was listening to J. D. Hayworth on Imus this morning and he made a very succinct point. He noted that our legalities are outstripping our humanity. Imus, to his credit, agreed with him.

When we have men like Hayworth around, I am encouraged for the future. That there are a few brave souls, still in a significant minority but brave enough to stand up to the tide of death sweeping our nation, it gives the rest of us heart. The war for the nation's soul may still be won, but I fear the battle for Terri's life may be drawing to an unhappy close.

634 posted on 03/23/2005 5:49:30 PM PST by chimera
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To: Edmund Burke

I take exception to that comment. I lived in Naples for 3 years and know many excellent Freepers who live in Naples who happen to be very pro-Terri.


635 posted on 03/23/2005 5:49:31 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("I I think she did too much coke...ahh you think so Doctor?)
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To: Jimmyclyde

Ask Sarah if her mom should have pulled her feeding tube. Ask Nora the RN that got fired from Hospice this week because she said that Terri was aware of her surroundings and that went against what Hospice is doing....

2/11/2005
Sarah Scantlin was 18 years old when, as a pedestrian, she was injured in a hit-and-run accident that left her in a vegetative condition, aware of her surroundings but unable to speak or move.

Since that time, she has been in a care centre in the Midwest US state of Kansas.

Scantlin´s parents unexpectedly received a phone call last week from the nursing home where their now 38-year-old daughter resides.

However, instead of the call being about Sarah, it was actually from Sarah.

"Hi mum," she said to her mother.

The words were a shock and a joy for Scantlin´s parents.

"There´s just no words," mother Betsy Scantlin told a CBS television news show. "I´ve just laughed ever since because it´s just so amazing."


636 posted on 03/23/2005 5:50:22 PM PST by GoreNoMore
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To: RPTMS

Michael Savage just read from a document that claims that Jeb Bush has the unilateral authority to rescue Terri, but will he act? It's now or never, governor. The opportunity will not come again. Why so much hesitation?


637 posted on 03/23/2005 5:50:28 PM PST by Theodore R. (Why does the GOP continue to fiddle while Terri burns? Is it cowardice?)
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To: adc

The next time they do this, they will just hold the funeral and bury the next one alive. Remember they think they are not feeling this so what is the difference in their minds.


638 posted on 03/23/2005 5:51:55 PM PST by GoreNoMore
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To: gopwinsin04
I just jumped in, so I'm not going to read the entire thread to see if someone else has already said this, but does this strike anyone else as being disingenuous:

despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.

Sorry, but it's a real nutrition tube. Any way they can find to create the image that Terri's being kept alive by anything other than food and water....

Bastards. Accomplices.

639 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:45 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: Jimmyclyde

Hey man, Sarah Scantlin was in a vegetative state until she came out 2/11/2005. After that, it was stated she was mis-diagnosed, that she was really in a coma. You would just bury her alive and say oh well sorry 'bout that.


640 posted on 03/23/2005 5:57:23 PM PST by GoreNoMore
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