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Voted off the Island?: The Southern Christian Struggle against Apostasy
BreakPoint with Charles Colson ^ | March 22, 2005 | Charles Colson

Posted on 03/22/2005 2:42:35 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

When ministers pray before a business meeting, it’s rare that anyone is asked not to show up. Yet that’s exactly what happened recently at a gathering of—of all people—Anglican bishops.

I said “of all people” because the Anglican Communion, which includes the Episcopal Church here in the United States, values unity above almost everything else. They express this unity in the celebration of Communion, a rite that sends the message that, no matter how deep the disagreements may be, the participants are still one in Christ.

Imagine, then, the surprise felt by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, when he read a letter from Nigerian Archbishop Peter Akinola and other conservative bishops. Akinola warned Williams that “Third World archbishops would not celebrate Communion with U.S. Presiding Bishop Frank Griswold” at an upcoming meeting in Ireland.

The proximate cause of the crisis was the American church’s consecration of an openly gay bishop, Eugene Robinson of New Hampshire. But, for Akinola and the others, this action is but a symptom of a much deeper malady.

As the former bishop of South Carolina, C. Fitzsimmons Allison, told columnist Terry Mattingly: It’s difficult to celebrate Communion together when the participants don’t share a common understanding of words like salvation, resurrection, marriage, or even God.

He’s not exaggerating. He was once told by several American bishops that they “worshipped a god who is ‘older and greater’ than the God of the Bible.” Allison’s word for this is the right one: apostasy.

This departure from the “doctrines that have united Christians through the ages” made Robinson’s consecration possible. And it’s why the North American churches have been “urgently requested” to “voluntarily withdraw their members from the Anglican Consultative Council.” To put in it “reality-television” terms: “Just leave quietly. Don’t make us vote you off the island.”

While this may sound like Anglican “inside baseball,” there are important lessons here for American evangelicals. The first is Akinola’s insistence that “unity of doctrine [precedes] unity of worship.” Or, Allison put it, “stronger stuff” than “appeals to human emotions” are what holds a church together.

If we’re honest with ourselves, a lot of evangelical churches also avoid the “stronger stuff.” In this day of seeker-driven churches, what would people answer if you asked them to define resurrection, salvation, marriage, or God? Do we really want to know?

Another important lesson is the growing power of “Third-World” Christians. Akinola and company represent forty to fifty million, mostly active, Anglicans, some of whom risk their lives to practice their faith. Griswold represents two million, mostly nominal, Anglicans, many of whom reject the Bible.

As historian Philip Jenkins has written, the center of “gravity” of the Christian world has already shifted “southward.” These “southern” Christians are much more conservative regarding faith and morals, and their overwhelming numerical superiority makes it impossible to ignore what they are saying.

That’s good, because we in the West need to hear what they have to say, starting with a reminder of why it is we pray together in the first place.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: breakpoint; christians; ecusa; religiousleft; south; southernchristians
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For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. --2 Timothy 4:3
1 posted on 03/22/2005 2:42:35 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: agenda_express; almcbean; ambrose; Annie03; applemac_g4; BA63; banjo joe; Believer 1; bethelgrad; ..

BreakPoint/Chuck Colson Ping!

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2 posted on 03/22/2005 2:43:46 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Most excellent.


3 posted on 03/22/2005 2:45:45 PM PST by freecopper01 ("There is One who will judge all.")
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To: sionnsar; newheart

Ping to whoever is pinging the pinglist today.


4 posted on 03/22/2005 2:48:38 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Mr. Silverback
The sentence "He was once told by several American bishops that they “worshipped a god who is ‘older and greater’ than the God of the Bible.”" sent chills up my spine. Although vaguely worded, I have a strong suspicion I know the name of the god to whom they refer.

Creepy, weird, and sad all at once.
5 posted on 03/22/2005 2:53:32 PM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: Rembrandt_fan

Wow! As an ex-Episcopalian who is now a Mo. Synod Lutheran, you may well be right, sadly.


6 posted on 03/22/2005 2:58:34 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: ahadams2; Saint Reagan; Marauder; stan_sipple; SuzyQue; LifeofRiley; TheDean; pharmamom; ...
Traditional Anglican ping, continued in memory of its founder Arlin Adams.

FReepmail sionnsar if you want on or off this moderately high-volume ping list (typically 3-7 pings/day).
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Speak the truth in love. Eph 4:15


[ Thanks toPAR35 for spotting this--newheart]
7 posted on 03/22/2005 2:59:16 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
You couldn't have picked a better verse to caption what is going on here.

I was born in west Africa and lived about 10 years in Asia. I know from first-hand experience the power and truth behind this statement:

Akinola and company represent forty to fifty million, mostly active, Anglicans, some of whom risk their lives to practice their faith. Griswold represents two million, mostly nominal, Anglicans, many of whom reject the Bible.

8 posted on 03/22/2005 2:59:28 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Rembrandt_fan
Although vaguely worded, I have a strong suspicion I know the name of the god to whom they refer.

Cthulu?

OK, sorry, I'm a jerk, I'll be serious now...

9 posted on 03/22/2005 3:04:36 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Amen!


10 posted on 03/22/2005 3:05:03 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

2Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: FROM SUCH TURN AWAY.

2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

2Ti 3:9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all [men], as theirs also was.

2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Therefore:

2Ti 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

2Ti 1:14 That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us.





11 posted on 03/22/2005 3:07:24 PM PST by Esther Ruth (As the mountains are around Jerusalem, so the LORD is around his people FOREVER)
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To: Rembrandt_fan

That caught my attention too. Interesting . . .


12 posted on 03/22/2005 3:07:35 PM PST by Buggman (Baruch ata Adonai, Elohanu Mehlech ha Olam, asher nathan lanu et derech ha y’shua b’Mashiach Yeshua.)
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To: Rembrandt_fan

Re: "Although vaguely worded, I have a strong suspicion I know the name of the god to whom they refer."

Baal


13 posted on 03/22/2005 3:14:23 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I attend the church of Russ Meyer every Sunday night. Sorry, but no apostates (or B-cups) allowed.


14 posted on 03/22/2005 4:23:59 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Mr. Silverback

RE: "Cthulu?"


Possible misspelling of Ktulu, the god of '80's speed metal.


15 posted on 03/22/2005 4:27:41 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Sci-fi - H.P. Lovecraft - "Cthulhu" - See the url:

http://www.cthulhu.org/cthulhu/


16 posted on 03/22/2005 4:42:20 PM PST by Woodworker
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To: Woodworker

RE: "Sci-fi - H.P. Lovecraft - "Cthulhu" - See the url:"


It's a joke. You've never heard of Metallica, man?


17 posted on 03/22/2005 4:48:19 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Rembrandt_fan
The sentence "He was once told by several American bishops that they “worshipped a god who is ‘older and greater’ than the God of the Bible.”" sent chills up my spine. Although vaguely worded, I have a strong suspicion I know the name of the god to whom they refer.

Perhaps he thinks that in exchange for worship, his "older god" will eat him last...

18 posted on 03/22/2005 4:49:07 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (This space for rent)
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To: newheart

Thank you for the ping.


19 posted on 03/22/2005 5:40:27 PM PST by secret garden (Go Spurs Go!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Lovecraft fan here, too, but humor aside, I've heard New Agey rumblings about this all-encompassing 'old god' stuff. Machen called him Pan, and Baal is close to the mark, but I think what the apostates in the article were referring to is a kind of Nature Principle: that amorphous, feel-good 'God Is Everywhere' kind of thing. They're trying to imply, I think, that their god is unbound by any book written by men. Problem is, you can never really pin New Age types down on exactly what (or whom) they mean.

Look, I'm a former atheist and a novice Christian--certainly no qualified apologist for the faith. But I'm also a recovering addict (with several years' clean time now), so I know a little about evil, and I've come to believe that there is an active malevolence at work. Not the pitchfork-and-horns, cartoony evil that allows people to dismiss the whole notion, but rather, a sophisticated intelligence that would like to collectively carve us up and put us out with the trash. So when I see supposed ministers and priests reducing very real 'powers and principalities' to hazy concepts and vague abstractions, it worries me.
20 posted on 03/22/2005 8:20:30 PM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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