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RUSH LIMBAUGH LIVE THREAD ( those who want an update and accurate on TERRI SCHIAVO STATE!
WABC radio ^ | MARCH 22, 2005

Posted on 03/22/2005 9:24:20 AM PST by restornu


Terri Brother ..................Terri early on in a hospice .................. Michael has let his wife deteriate!
Compare the early Hospice Photo

At this time Terri was able to chew and swallow and was learning to use the pararall bars to walk again...as soon as the malpactice law suit was won Michael Schiavo remember his wife wanted to die...so he would move her from one location to another every time they thought she was ready to start rehab again!

Lets try to have the same page to fight the MISLEADING OUT THERE!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boycottflorida; didmichaelhurtterri; didmikehurtterri; focusonmichael; hireprivateyenow; investigatemichael; investigatemikenow; isthisacoverup; michaelscharacter; needprivateeyenow; rush; schiavo; talkradio; terri; terrischiavo
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To: sola_fide
Does anyone know if someone other than this discredited Dr. Hammesfahr...

How exactly has the Dr. been discredited?

21 posted on 03/22/2005 9:39:08 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: InvisibleChurch

Won't be lone before they won't treat smokers or alcholics.


22 posted on 03/22/2005 9:39:10 AM PST by johnb838 (Greer: What I have written, I have written)
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To: Yinzer

Hey, that's not fair - Teddy Kennedy just offered to take Terri for a ride ...


23 posted on 03/22/2005 9:39:22 AM PST by talleyman (E=mc2 (before taxes))
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To: sola_fide

If it's an overwhelming consensus, then produce some links please.


24 posted on 03/22/2005 9:39:30 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: pollywog

thanks! I'm so humbled by this case, I can't tell you how sick it makes me how government pursues by the book because of hearsay. That's what Michael Schiavo's only argument is - hearsay. And we're willing to let a woman starve over hearsay.

What's happening to our culture?


25 posted on 03/22/2005 9:39:40 AM PST by concan
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To: restornu
Michael Shaivo will, for the rest of his life, carry the stigma of causing his wife's death. One can only pity his children who will also be affected by it.

Whether or not he "remembered" Terri making a statement about what she wanted in this type of situation is clearly not why he is carrying out his actions now. A real, loving man would have acted much differently. He was entitled, after years of the reality of her situation was obvious, to make a new life for himself. He should have divorced Terri when he became involved with another woman. I do not fault him for that desire. I do fault him for not simply deciding that he had tried all that he felt he could/should and realize that it was time to move on. By saying that he did his best, and placing Terri in the hands of her parents to decide her future, he would have not only been more manly, but also more loving toward her.

If he truly loved this new woman, and their children, he would not subject them to such chaos either. He has no love for any woman. His agenda is self-centered and uncompassionate.

26 posted on 03/22/2005 9:39:43 AM PST by CitizenM (An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded. Pope John Paul II)
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To: Niks
Just the nurses who cared for her and 34 other doctors.

Do you have links to any of this info? I am not disputing your claim, I just want to see it. I truly hope you're right.

27 posted on 03/22/2005 9:40:10 AM PST by sola_fide
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To: Coop; sola_fide
It seems there are always two sides to every story about Terri Schiavo, everything about her, and every person connected to her.

Anyway, here's the story regarding Hammesfahr. He was thoroughly investigated by the Florida State Dept of Health after neurologists in Florida filed a complaint against him. The basis of their complaint was that Dr. Hammesfahr claimed his treatments could improve stroke patients whose injuries had been diagnosed as permanent. The complaining neurologists stated that this couldn't be true, so Dr. Hammesfahr must be a fraud. After hearing and reviewing all the evidence, the administrative law judge appointed to the case concluded that Dr. Hammesfahr's therapy did in fact successfully restore previously permanent deficits caused by a stroke. It's interesting how some people will want us to believe everything Judge Greer decides, but will not want us to believe what Judge Kirkland decided about Dr. Hammesfahr.

Medicare also spent 4 years investigating Dr. Hammesfahr. They determined that most of the patients Dr. Hammesfahr treated for previously diagnosed permanent neurological damages did improve with his techniques.

I guess the choice is whether to believe Medicare and the Florida State Dept of Health.

28 posted on 03/22/2005 9:40:57 AM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Halls

he wasn't discredited, but Felos and the Tampa area death-society found him too powerful a witness and launched a smear campaign.

The doctor was completely exhonorated(sp?)


29 posted on 03/22/2005 9:40:59 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: CitizenM

He's a monster. Have you ever seen him? Sociopathic monster.


30 posted on 03/22/2005 9:41:21 AM PST by johnb838 (Greer: What I have written, I have written)
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To: sola_fide
No, no, no. You call the guy a quack, you have to produce evidence of quackery. He is a board certified neurologist in Florida. His methods have been challenged by other neurologists and a complaint filed against him. The Florida Board of Medicine dismissed the complaint.
31 posted on 03/22/2005 9:42:09 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Coop

Here's one: http://www.casewatch.org/civil/schiavo.shtml


32 posted on 03/22/2005 9:42:12 AM PST by sola_fide
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To: restornu
I don't suppose brainy liberals are bothered by the fact that offing the disabled is, historically speaking, decidedly fascist.

That would require some intelligence - or at least some semblance of morality. But, just like the eugenicists in fascist Germany, I'm sure they've told themselves that death is generally in the best interest of the "inferior" or those who are a "drain on society."

33 posted on 03/22/2005 9:42:19 AM PST by Reactionary
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To: restornu

I am afraid Terri is not going to make it this time; what a terrible way to die.

IMO, the issue lies more with George Felos/hospice where Terri is being kept. It seems, at least to me, that there's some heavy duty fraud that's been going on.

http://www.theempirejournal.com/0309052_Medicaid_Medicare_Fraud_Evident_In_Schiavo.htm
03.08.05
Medicaid, Medicare Fraud Evident In Schiavo Hospice Certification


34 posted on 03/22/2005 9:43:11 AM PST by Maria S (Some church members who sing "Standing on the Promises" are just sitting on the premises.)
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To: axel f

Ping!


35 posted on 03/22/2005 9:43:16 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: concan
"What's happening to our culture?"

Maybe moral relativism? This is routinely taught in our public schools and universities.

Abortion not being a "big deal"?

Good people not doing enough or doing nothing at all and remaining silent?

"What is truth?" I've heard that spoken before ... Ponitous Pilate as he washed his hands of the matter.

36 posted on 03/22/2005 9:43:38 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: restornu

BTTT


37 posted on 03/22/2005 9:43:51 AM PST by Rightly Biased (I believe If you can't say something good about somebody your probably talking about Hillary Clinton)
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To: lonevoice

What is really interesting is how Judge Greer dismisses any evidence contrary to his a priori notion that Terri Schiavo expressed informed consent to have food and water removed from her diet.


38 posted on 03/22/2005 9:44:06 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: sola_fide

I've seen no such overwhelming consenous. I believe the judge ignored him and one other who reported that she could make progress. Three others disagreeded with them. This makes him a quack? As for being an "expert" doesn't he work with people in her condition for a living? Does this make him a novice? There have been numerous reports of progress by Terri Schivo, other than this guys opinion, from nurses and staff at her numerous nursing homes. Are they quacks, as they clearly disagree with the other 3 doctors? They work day in and day out with severely disabled people. Are they also novices?


39 posted on 03/22/2005 9:45:19 AM PST by conservativewasp (Support John Kerry......... Ho Chi Minh would. Damn! Now I need a new tagline.)
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To: nmh

No history being taught. And CERTAINLY nothing about how Mengele's research and tactics were folded into American medicine.


40 posted on 03/22/2005 9:45:34 AM PST by johnb838 (Greer: What I have written, I have written)
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