Posted on 03/22/2005 3:26:06 AM PST by tsmith130
Just heard on Fox....so sad.
The gullible ones ARE THE ONES WHO WOULD trust MICHAEL SCHIAVO, who asked Larry King to "TRUST ME" ON LKL last night!!!!!!
MAry, when you call somebody a quack you have to provide evidence of quackery. Similarly, when the state orders the death of a citizen based on informed consent the state has to offer clear and convincing evidence of same. You deserve each other.
But this is incorrect. If the judge had wanted to issue the TRO and order the insertion of the tube and the resumptionof feeding while he gave substantive and procedural constitutional rights review, he would have taken the following steps: He would have reviewed the standing of the husband and the hearsay nature of the alleged declaration by Terri that she wanted to die. He would have said that this aspect "raised evidentiary questions of basic reliability" especially in view of the husband's "potential conflict of interest" in starting another family and obviously wanting to move on wiht his life.
My point is that Judge Whittemore--any judge--would have the capacity to go just the other way IF HE WANTED TO.
If the person whose rights were potentially violated were someone he wanted to save, the judge would have cast aside the procedural steps in state court as "not according to her fundamental due process especially in such a vital constitutional interest such as her life and liberty. We have to cast "strict scrutiny" when reviewing the basic safeguard of citizens....blah blah blah."
The real key is that the judges of the leftward culture perceive themselves as political champions and somehow they take their marching orders from the left-right tilt as it is played in the MSM.
Trouble is, all of that is a lie.
If people as a whole knew that Terri was not and is not brain dead or in vegetative state at all, that her husband is acting under a hopeless conflict of interest and has been (at best) wholly unfaithful to Terri and is living with another woman for over ten years with two kids by her, and that the parents are offering to assume all the responsibility and burden of her care in the hopes of rehaibiltating her, the percentages would be revrsed in an instant.
Those are the ey issues here, and IMHO, as such, This decision is another in a long line of aborations and corruption assiociated with Terri Shiavo. Where is it written down and notoriized...that her wishes are to die of starvation or thirst if in that position...which would violate her religious beliefs which, by all accounts, she was adamant about? Here's a clue...it's not.
As to constitutionality of this decision, I say it's pure, unadulterated Bravo Sierra. This Judge could easily have ruled constitutionally that she had a right to life, which trumps all of the other legaleze and mumbo-jumbo being spouted by those who support having her killed.
Common sense has fled so many of our people, even our judges. When there is the least shred of evidence, doubt or disagreement in such a situation as this, particularly amongst direct family members who are willing to lovingly care for her...you ERE ON THE SIDE OF LIFE!
Anything short of this is an abject violation of the most fundamental principles upon which this Republic was founded.
We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are the right to life...
If we as a people cast that aside, if we allow it to be case aside, then we tread a path that will lead to our ruin, our enslavement and our destruction as a soveriegn Republic and a nation founded upon liberty and the rule of law, that law being undergirded by fundamental moral principle.
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798"
Sadly, in this ruling and episode, as with many others of our day (ie. abortion) we are living out the negative of John Adams statement...right before our eyes. God bless those who are standing for life, against the culture of death. May we as a people have the fortitude and the willingness, if neccessary, to stand boldly and resoultely on these principles against such conditions of our day.
Would that be like a retired General Motors assembly line worker whose job was to install computerized components in your car suggesting that a brake mechanic is not worthy to work on your car?
"For some - they're on satellite and on some cable systems, but not widely available."
Exactly.
I think you-know-where will freeze over before people living in Quebec (where I am) will get Fox News. :)
This decision was based on CONFLICTING HEARSAY TESTIMONY!!!!!!!!
How many people seriously believe a 26 year old woman in 1990 (when feeding tubes were NOT an issue) wanted to STARVE to death??????
You are delusional if you do!!!!!!!
Um....the "other" people that testified about her wishes were Michael's family! His brother! HER friends and family say that Terri valued all life. These friends were on FNC last night.
I ask again...what is the harm in having a PET scan done? No one seems to be able to answer this.
I can in no way understand why the courts have forbidden anyone to feed her hydrated foods by mouth.
An internal Medicare review identified that this therapy helped patients gain significant improvement even years after the injury and years after they had stopped improving before obtaining Dr. Hammesfahr's approach. Judicial Review in November of 2003 ordered Medicare payment for Dr. Hammesfahr's approach in conditions of the brain that involved damage, injury, or abnormal function of blood vessels. The judge noted that judicial review of the method, science, and results showed significant improvement. Further, he identified that there was no "viable alternative" to obtain improvement in these patients with longstanding as well as acute injuries to the brain and blood vessels than Dr. Hammesfahr's approach.
Further work showed that it was also applicable to other diseases of the brain where insufficient blood flow to the brain is a part of the problem, diseases like Attention Deficit Disorder, Migraine, Dementia, Autism, Asperger's, and Cerebral Palsy.
In clinical reviews, 98% of patients had major, functional improvement. These reviews were evaluated by Judge Susan Kurkland, for the State of Florida, Department of Health. She described in her ruling that this new therapy is safe, unique, and that Dr. Hammesfahr is the "first physician to restore deficits caused by stroke."
Dr. Hammesfahr will be speaking at the 4th International Symposium, the largest meeting or brain specialists for pediatric brain injuries ever.
Speakers from around the world including Mexico, Russia, China, Europe, and elsewhere will be meeting to discuss new approaches including Stem Cell work, and Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy.
http://www.ecerebralpalsy.com/newsletters/issue5.html
Now that's an interesting quote in light of the following:
Hillary!: "Is it safe?"
I've been in a discussion on another site and someone threw in this MRI statement to prove she has had a full workup and now I'm stumped.
Granted it was in 7/1990.
When you have such a heated conflict, and in the absence of no legal document...you ere on the side of life. Particularly when there are family members willing to assume the responsibility and burden of taking care of her and trying to rehaibiltate her...which, BTW, the husband ceased doing as soon as he won the civil award. There is testimony from nurses at the time that affirm this directly. He is quoted as saing "When is the bitch going to die". As I said, when there is the hint of such things, you ere on the side of innocent life...Terri's life.
And, by definition, Terri is not vegetative. Her eyes track things entering the room, she responds affirmatively. She is able to sit in an easy chair next to the bed. Check out both sides objectively. I have done so and the husband's side stinks to high heaven.
Based on that arguement, one might argue the same for anyone who resides in a nursing home.
They do not equate.
Check out this post about Judge Greer:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1352657/posts?page=4588#4588
What Michael Schiavo has done is certainly immoral, but there is no present evidence that it is illegal.
She hasn't had an MRI because they implanted stimulators.
Look at the testimony, that was a summation made at the time the petition for guardianship change was denied. It was a justification for saying this is the schindlers just wanting half of michael's money. They asked him to pay them what he owed.
Distortion is rife in this case.
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