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To: american colleen

I've seen the video from 4 years ago and she is in a permanant vegetative state. Morphine drip would be very humane. Please cite a case of someone coming back after 15 years of a permanent vegetative state.


1,079 posted on 03/20/2005 8:23:46 PM PST by chris9soccer
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To: chris9soccer

Go away and come back when you know what you are talking about.


1,089 posted on 03/20/2005 8:24:55 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: chris9soccer

Sarah Scandlin came back after 20 years in a PVS.


1,092 posted on 03/20/2005 8:25:09 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: chris9soccer

What are your credentials? Are you a neurologist?

I suggest that you go to the Congressional Record and read Senator (Doctor) Bill Frist's speech at the end of the day on Thursday. Then tell me about PVS.


1,101 posted on 03/20/2005 8:26:28 PM PST by jackbill
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To: chris9soccer

I've seen several people on this thread direct you to the information you have requested. Please read and quit requesting it again.


1,118 posted on 03/20/2005 8:27:47 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: chris9soccer

Morphine drip would be humane. Of course. You know what we could do? We could get a bunch of disabled, brain damaged, and other useless eater types, and put them in a shed. Then we close the doors, and put the exhaust pipe from an internal combustion engine into the shed. All the Vegetables inside would just humanely and peacefully go to sleep. Just think how many people we could help at one time with this procedure?



1,122 posted on 03/20/2005 8:28:04 PM PST by Nik Naym
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To: chris9soccer
I've seen the video from 4 years ago and she is in a permanant vegetative state.

Interesting you should say that. Back it up, why don't you? Because I disagree, and I have experience caring for patients with brain damaged-aware-awake AND persistent vegetative state patients. There's quite a difference, and Terri is not PVS, in my nursing opinion.

1,127 posted on 03/20/2005 8:28:20 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: chris9soccer
"I've seen the video from 4 years ago and she is in a permanent vegetative state."

PVS diagnosis from watching a four year old video, supplemented by various references for which you have no citations. Obviously, a student of the Judge Greer School of Evidence.
1,131 posted on 03/20/2005 8:28:45 PM PST by Warlord
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To: chris9soccer

Do you suffer from double post syndrome also?


1,139 posted on 03/20/2005 8:29:37 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: chris9soccer

"Please cite a case of someone coming back after 15 years of a permanent vegetative state."

I can't remember the lady's name. It is something Adamson, I believe. She had her tube pulled for 8 days. She said she knew what was going on and wanted to live. She said it was very painful. Luckily, her husband was able to get it reinserted. The doctors thought he was just a looney religious nut. She is now fighting for Terri.


1,147 posted on 03/20/2005 8:30:42 PM PST by imskylark
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To: chris9soccer
I've seen the video from 4 years ago and she is in a permanant vegetative state.

I'll agree and I bet many others here will agree with me that you are an expert on "permanant (sic) vegetative state".

1,150 posted on 03/20/2005 8:30:58 PM PST by isthisnickcool (This space for rent.)
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To: chris9soccer

Have you seen HER reaction to being told they were going to pull the tube?


1,162 posted on 03/20/2005 8:31:38 PM PST by SouthTexas
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To: chris9soccer

http://www.terrywallisfund.org/pages/1/index.htm

Read it and then make your argument!


1,167 posted on 03/20/2005 8:31:58 PM PST by JanetteS (www.CommonSenseRunsWild.com)
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To: chris9soccer
But I don't think you get it... it isn't about her 'coming back', it's about the cruel starvation and dehydration she will (and is) suffer(ing).

A morphine drip isn't even in the discussion. Never was. You know she doesn't even meet Florida's threshold for PVS?

And if she is, as you say, in a PVS, why do they give her morphine each time she has the tube put in or out? It's because she feels pain.

1,187 posted on 03/20/2005 8:33:34 PM PST by american colleen
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To: chris9soccer
I've seen the video from 4 years ago and she is in a permanant vegetative state

I presume that you are not aware that "permanant vegetative state" is a phrase with specific legal meaning in Florda law. Allow me to elucidate:

765.101
(12) "Persistent vegetative state" means a permanent and irreversible condition of unconsciousness in which there is: (a) The absence of voluntary action or cognitive behavior of any kind. (b) An inability to communicate or interact purposefully with the environment.

Both conditions must be satisfied to be given the label. Terri does not fall into either.

1,242 posted on 03/20/2005 8:39:46 PM PST by Tree of Liberty (requiescat in pace, President Reagan)
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