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US House of Rep. in an Extraordinary Sunday night Session [Schiavo] (Bush Signs Schiavo bill)

Posted on 03/20/2005 6:03:40 PM PST by FoxPro

This is an unprecedented session. The Congress is meeting to save one persons life (in real time).

The only reason the Democrats are agreeing to this is that they don’t want to be known as the party that killed Terri.

This is American history happening before your eyes.


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KEYWORDS: 109th; deathlobby; democratssuck; demswantterridead; dirtyrats; euthanasia; hitlersheirs; libertarianssuck; murderinc; obstructionistdems; paartyofdeath; proverbs836b; rats; rinossuck; schiavo; schiavobill; shiavo; sorelosers; terri; terrischiavo; terrislaw; uselessmouths; wexler
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To: rwfromkansas
It specifically says it does not establish precedent etc.

They will not be responsible for the precedent. They can NOT guarantee that!!!

The appeal court will establish precedent, by overruling 200 years of it.

2,921 posted on 03/21/2005 12:07:51 AM PST by Cold Heat (RNC, I am outta here! The Tenth ammendment does mean something to me and mine.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Yawn


2,922 posted on 03/21/2005 12:08:35 AM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

"Well, I don't know what else could be done beyond the federal courts."

"Right and I got called a murderer for wondering aloud that earlier"


Who on earth did that?


2,923 posted on 03/21/2005 12:08:36 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: rwfromkansas

Excellent points and so well said!


2,924 posted on 03/21/2005 12:09:42 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: rwfromkansas
Did you read the bill? It specifically says it does not establish precedent etc.

LOL!! If a bill has to state that, then obviously the authors are concerned that it establishes precedent.

And you can bet that it does.

2,926 posted on 03/21/2005 12:11:24 AM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: beandog
Just do us all a favor and don't do a opus. Just go quietly.

You're a bit new here to be ordering people off of Free Republic.

2,927 posted on 03/21/2005 12:12:15 AM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: Cold Heat
Please chill out Cold (as punnishing as that might be). The current state of affairs is that no party that is strictly constructionist will be elected dog catcher in this country. Sorry, but thats been the case since FDR stacked the SCOTUS for his New Deal.

If the country was operating under the constitution, then I doubt Terri's life would be under threat by a Judge such as Greer. The misinterpretation of the Establishment clause to the "wall of separation" clause alone has done irrefutable harm to the value of human life in state government.

The current law passed by congress is hardly a radical expansion of congressional power in light of recent absurd expansions via the interstate commerce clause used by the left.

The road back will be incremental, and is for the patient and strong. Demanding immediate results is an exercise in futility.

2,928 posted on 03/21/2005 12:12:19 AM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: rwfromkansas
Did you read the bill? It specifically says it does not establish precedent etc.

I read the bill, and there is no guarantee that the courts won't set precedent. It's out of the Congress' hands...for now.

Harken back to the gay marriage vote in California. It was voted down by the people, and the court ruled that vote was unconstitutional. Congress (We The People) spoke out, now the thing is, will the courts rule the "will of the people" unconstitutional or not? That's been my dig. Beyond that, I don't see how that's advocating murder, when it's widely known on FR I'm a pro-life Conservative.

2,929 posted on 03/21/2005 12:12:48 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: sinkspur

I think the precendent is that if a court orders the death of an innocent person and you can get enough congresspersons to agree, you can have a federal court review the case.

I'm not entirely opposed to that precendent.


2,930 posted on 03/21/2005 12:13:35 AM PST by D-fendr
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To: Just mythoughts
Who on earth did that?

I pinged him, Petronski did.

2,931 posted on 03/21/2005 12:13:42 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: CyberAnt
but letting her die was what he wanted.

ROFL! I watched that strawman created before my eyes tonight on this forum,in the same way many others have been.

That statement you made is absolutely untrue.

King cut him off before he finished that thought.You took the fragment and created the the proof you wanted, and because it fits your convictions, you are using it as some sort of gotcha.

Absolutely amazing.

2,932 posted on 03/21/2005 12:13:49 AM PST by Cold Heat (RNC, I am outta here! The Tenth ammendment does mean something to me and mine.)
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To: Cold Heat

"They will not be responsible for the precedent. They can NOT guarantee that!!!

The appeal court will establish precedent, by overruling 200 years of it."


You are no longer making sense. The courts have already time and time again established precedent, by overruling 200 years of the Constitution.


2,933 posted on 03/21/2005 12:14:24 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Cold Heat
The responses I get for this are that I am part and parcel of the death culture, that I should be starved to death and that I'm hiding my true feelings.

Ignore the emotion. The place has been hopped up on emotion the last few days. Besides, it's always good to have some counterweight here. I happen to agree with much of what you've been posting, as you know, and have taken a beating myself.

Don't leave.

2,934 posted on 03/21/2005 12:15:13 AM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: Just mythoughts
The courts have already time and time again established precedent, by overruling 200 years of the Constitution.

So how is your statement different from mine. It is still precedent.

2,935 posted on 03/21/2005 12:17:06 AM PST by Cold Heat (RNC, I am outta here! The Tenth amendment does mean something to me and mine.)
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To: sinkspur; Cold Heat

I agree with sinkspur. Don't leave Cold Heat.


2,936 posted on 03/21/2005 12:17:40 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: sinkspur

Maybe if you could read you would note that Cold Heat was saying he was packing his bags and leaving. I was just asking him to do so quietly and with no opus. If you don't like it tough.


2,937 posted on 03/21/2005 12:18:12 AM PST by beandog (The only time I was wrong was the time I thought I was wrong)
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To: D-fendr
I think the precendent is that if a court orders the death of an innocent person and you can get enough congresspersons to agree, you can have a federal court review the case.

So, it would appear that every dispute involving end-of-life issues, even those involving terminally ill people, is subject to federal review.

We're gonna need a few more judges.

2,938 posted on 03/21/2005 12:18:25 AM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: BigSkyFreeper; Petronski

"Right and I got called a murderer for wondering aloud that earlier"
"I pinged him, Petronski did."

I am still looking for this, I think you are taking his words out of context.


2,939 posted on 03/21/2005 12:18:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: maica
Has anyone else heard of any Dem doctors in the House?

Not sure if the below is a comprehensive website, but it appears that among Dems Jim Al-Tikriti McDermott is a physician, as is Vic Snyder of Arkansas.

Physicians in Congress

Here's a list of the physicians in Congress and how they voted:

SENATE - Bill passed by voice vote
Bill Frist (R-TN) Supported bill
Tom Coburn (R-OK) Position unknown

HOUSE - Bill passed by roll call vote
Tom Price (R-GA) Yes
Charles Boustany (R-LA) Did not vote
Michael Burgess (R-TX) Yes
Phil Gingrey (R-GA) Yes
Jim Al-Tikriti McDermott (D-WA) No
Ron Paul (R-TX) Did not vote
Vic Snyder (D-AR) Yes
Dave Weldon (R-FL) Yes

2,940 posted on 03/21/2005 12:19:24 AM PST by Tex_GOP_Cruz (Remember Estrada!)
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