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Mexico undergoing Americanization as retirees, others become expatriates
Myrtle Beach Online ^ | 3/20/05 | Alfredo Corchado AND Laurence Iliff

Posted on 03/20/2005 5:56:53 AM PST by qam1

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Americans are such dupes. We are only welcomed if we bring a supply of dollares. Has everyone forgotten the 100's of millions of dollars the Mexican goevernment confiscated during the last peso crisis that were held by Americans in dollar accounts in US banks?

How about a good neighbor policy that includes the excrerable Mexican government selling us crude at a discount for partial repayment of all of thier campesinos who're up here illegally.

Yet, as many of you have pointed out, there is always a silver lining: move liberal scum! Leave! Get out of our way so we can do the heavy work required.


21 posted on 03/20/2005 6:49:21 AM PST by x1stcav (Hooahh!)
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To: qam1
Malaysia has a program here that allows retirees from other countries to live here.

There are quite a number of UK citizens who live here that I know of and a few Americans.

If anyone is interested in it, let me know.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

22 posted on 03/20/2005 6:50:08 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Indy Pendance
The folks trying to get into the US from the extreme South have been doing that for thousands of years.

I think it has to do with "climate". They live at sufficient altitude in the South that they have what amounts to a year-round temperate climate. This induces them to move to Chicago (among other places) because the weather is familiar.

Centuries ago they'd been moving to Cahokia, Terre Haute, Angel Mounds (at Evansville), and many other areas that show signs of serious trade with or settlement by Meso-Americans.

It'd probably be worth a doctorate to conduct and analyze interviews with hill folks in Southern Mexico to determine the velocity of the persistence of stories about El Norte.

23 posted on 03/20/2005 6:50:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: qam1
"Mexico's ideal political climate." Only a left-wing American air-head could make such a statement.
24 posted on 03/20/2005 7:01:22 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: qam1
Applicants must prove at least 60 percent proficiency in Spanish

This sounds like a reasonable idea. We should require proficiency in English.

25 posted on 03/20/2005 7:03:12 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Noachian
If we combine the liberals going to Mexico and Canada with the growing liberal abortion rate we may one day see the end of Liberal Democrats in the USA.

Nah, you assume that political leanings are hereditary. They aren't. My maternal grandparents were staunch Republicans. My mother and father are Democrats. My sister and I are conservatives.

26 posted on 03/20/2005 7:04:41 AM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: need_a_screen_name

Last I heard was you got a 99 year lease. Only way to buy property was marry a Mexican citizen. This was about 5 years ago when a friend of a friend moved there.


27 posted on 03/20/2005 7:18:11 AM PST by Joe Miner
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To: need_a_screen_name
didn't think Americans were allowed to buy property in Mexico?

I seem to recall that Americans cannot buy property within a certain distance of the border. i think the Mexicans are afraid Americans will buy property close to the border and then declare it part of the United States. I think the distance is somewhere between 70 to 100 miles.

28 posted on 03/20/2005 7:26:34 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: Joe Miner
Used to be. Things have changed with NAFTA. American citizens and Canadians can buy property in Mexico ~ you no longer need the fiction of a longterm lease with a front man. On the other hand, getting clear title can be very difficult. Remember, Mexico has a history of "land reform" and quite small parcels can be subject to "reform".

Other foreigners are subject to the former standards.

Now, when it comes to owning an oil well, the government owns all of them so you can't own an oil well.

In recent years Mexico has actually adopted many tricks previously found only in American law. Used to be a man's word was a guarantee. Now, you'd best have a notarized signed statement, plus a current receipt, and have your lawyer's phone number memorized!

29 posted on 03/20/2005 7:28:37 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: qam1
Check these people out in five years.

Everybody I know of who has moved to Mexico has eventually moved back.

30 posted on 03/20/2005 7:32:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: qam1
"The election was a clear indication of how divided we are as a country," said Marker, 65. "Here, I feel politically comfortable."

So basically, they've left a diversified country (so much for "tolerance") and have formed a leftist expat community, where they can live a comfortable lifestyle with servants.

They may feel comfortable amongst their own, but isn't the average Mexican a Catholic, and rather conservative? Or maybe these people they don't meet too many Mexicans except their gardeners?
31 posted on 03/20/2005 8:16:12 AM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Zechariah_8_13

India does not allow citizens living abroad to vote. Good idea?


32 posted on 03/20/2005 9:47:02 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: billybudd

Also because Mexico has all the socialism that they have always wanted.


33 posted on 03/20/2005 10:38:40 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Half a league, half a league rode the MSM into the valley of obscurity)
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To: Indy Pendance

Actually, much of what you have been saying is similar to what I have heard from some of the Mexican students. These students (most of whom speak English with no discernable accent) want to return to Mexico with their US education so that they can, hopefully, erase the stigma that Mexico has. Most of them wish Mexico would become as close a partner with the US as Britain or Japan. Also, they HATE the corruption in their country.


34 posted on 03/20/2005 10:46:26 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Half a league, half a league rode the MSM into the valley of obscurity)
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To: NHResident
there were articles about how gringos had invested in real estate and land they thought they owned and it turned out they they had leased. It was actually a pretty good living for the locals (owners, real estate agents and lawyers) who had their properties improved, repaired or built by gringos who paid not only for the work done but for the property itself. It took varying amounts of time but eventually these clever gringos were tossed.

I know someone who had that happen to them.

Mexico is not a good place for rich Gringos. If you are poor and have nothing to lose it may be a reasonable alternative.
35 posted on 03/20/2005 10:52:08 AM PST by cgbg (Fire the Trustees of the Social Security Trust Fund with no money in it!)
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To: qam1

This has been happening in the San Miguel Allende (and other) areas for years now. They don't want them in Dolores Hidalgo and actively take steps to keep Americans from moving there.


36 posted on 03/20/2005 11:15:04 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: qam1

I'd support any operation that would smuggle several million AARP liberals into Mexico, starting today.


37 posted on 03/20/2005 12:53:20 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: need_a_screen_name

"I didn't think Americans were allowed to buy property in Mexico?"

They aren't. They get a 99-year lease. Of course, since a 30 + individual will probably not have another 99 years in him or her, it's not much of a problem.

There's a lot more that goes with living in Mexico--- additional paperwork that allows you to move freely between the States and Mexico without a visa or passport, a legal "pay-off" to the local big shot (Paternos?), and more. My brother-in-law had a place in Punta Mita, just north of Puerto Vallarta and was always applying and sending paperwork (and cash) for one thing or another. He lived in a beautiful gated community on a hill above the ocean. We'd sit in the heated whirlpool outside his condo, swim in the pool and laughingly wonder what the poor people were doing.

I soon found out. We'd cruise the "village" below the hill, and it would kill me...packs of skinny dogs, some with a leg missing, that would run in packs---dirty kids living in adobe huts, no windows or doors on the building, potholes in the mud "streets" bigger than craters on the dark side of the moon.

Every six months or so, the federalis would dump a truck load of poisoned meat on the edge of town for the dogs and come back a few days later to dig a ditch and bull-doze the dead dogs into the hole...yeah, just like Hotel California.


38 posted on 03/20/2005 3:08:10 PM PST by toddlintown (We don't need no stinkin' passports.)
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To: billybudd
"The election was a clear indication of how divided we are as a country," said Marker, 65. "Here, I feel politically comfortable with my bigotry and hatred of Amerikkka."

Thats what he really means.

39 posted on 03/21/2005 7:33:38 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
Too bad it is a lie and one's existence is coupled with the banditos in the area

yeah, my first thoughts. My second thought was: better be ready to flee at the drop of a hat and forfeit your investment there also.

40 posted on 03/21/2005 7:35:48 AM PST by riri
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