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US Senate to convene emergency session. (Schiavo) Fox news. Tom Delay speaking now
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Posted on 03/19/2005 11:30:38 AM PST by Ravi

Just heard on Fox that U.S. Senate will convene today in emergency session regarding Terri Schiavo.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 109th; culktureodeath; cultureofdeath; eugenics; euthanasia; feedingtube; greer; killingthedisabled; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrisfight; tomdelay
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To: Portrait of a Lady

Well it is good to know that Sensenbrenner has maintained his reputation for "sensibility" in the U.S. House. Earlier we had a false report that he had been uncooperative in the fight to save Terri.


1,201 posted on 03/19/2005 5:36:54 PM PST by Theodore R. (Will the GOP fiddle while Terri churns?)
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To: Peach
If any good can come of this, it is that people will think more carefully about signing Living Wills and making their intentions clear.

yes. Probably the only positive outcome of this tragic story. With the current level of national publicity (vis this case), millions are probably giving Living Wills long overdue attention.

1,202 posted on 03/19/2005 5:37:17 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: rwfromkansas

MRS is not "stupid." He is on the verge of pulling off the crime of the century with the approval of the judiciary, the media, and the American people! It is shameful that his intellect has not been channeled to productive efforts.


1,203 posted on 03/19/2005 5:37:55 PM PST by Theodore R. (Will the GOP fiddle while Terri churns?)
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To: Clara Lou

Good post!


1,204 posted on 03/19/2005 5:38:03 PM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I think some of these zealous anti-Terri types have guilty consciences. Why else are they so hysterical?

I'm sure you're right. some anti-Terri callers on radio talk shows hint that they've withdrawn hydration from a relative.

1,205 posted on 03/19/2005 5:38:34 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: DevSix
that does not mean there isn't a need for a more humane and dignified way of ending life under certain circumstances

I am very, very familiar with those "certain circumstances".

There's a reason morphine was the first drug.

Those who know, don't say. Those who say, don't know.

1,206 posted on 03/19/2005 5:38:52 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: cajungirl

Your point? Anything to get off topic.


1,207 posted on 03/19/2005 5:38:57 PM PST by TightyRighty
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To: Txsleuth; Hildy
"I have seen your posts for two days now regarding this subject and I am having a really hard time understanding what is in this for you, that you are SO adamant about letting Terri die of thirst/starvation?"

Near as I can tell, she's usually sympathetic to murderers, and she's especially fond of this particular one, going back at least a year and half that I know of.

1,208 posted on 03/19/2005 5:42:01 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: freedomdefender
some anti-Terri callers on radio talk shows hint that they've withdrawn hydration from a relative

This happens hundreds of times every day. Ordinarily, it causes no controversy.

It certainly isn;t somethying people are reticent to discuss.

1,209 posted on 03/19/2005 5:42:40 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
some anti-Terri callers on radio talk shows hint that they've withdrawn hydration from a relative This happens hundreds of times every day. Ordinarily, it causes no controversy. It certainly isn;t somethying people are reticent to discuss.

I would be. I'm not going to order the starving of anyone under my care.

1,210 posted on 03/19/2005 5:49:15 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; expatguy

"This was in the days ... when it was hard to get enough pain medication for late stage cancer (as it can still be)."

No kidding. I am sure that many people here will know what I'm talking about when I say, that literally EVERY TIME my sister and I walked into my mom's room, her, what do you call it, like a tree with all her fluids, meds, etc., was hanging, was beeping because something was missing.

I have no doubt that they shut off food. Or they were VERY slow to give it to her.

We had to ask for pain meds for her. And I mean, every single time we were there. My mom would say that she hurt, but only if my sister or I asked the nurses, would morphine be given.

Someone another time said that this happens every day.

I think that it does. If there isn't a family member there 24/7, the people that the institution considers dead already, are, well, ignored as much as possible.

"One night he tried to commit suicide with a hand gun it hurt so bad, but my grandmother stopped him. "

I'm so sorry about the suffering your grandfather endured.

"Because she represents a personal nightmare, they concoct stories of suffering, or other reasons why she should be put down."

Exactly. Who among us hasn't feared losing control of their bodies or losing a great part of their mental faculties?

No, no one wants to end up like Terri. But the thing is, we have to look at this logically.

First. If we must choose between life and death: Life is the only option that allows a reconsideration.

Second. If Terri has a healthy brain trapped in a damaged body, well, we can look to Freeper expatguy and numerous other examples to see why we should preserve her life, her physical body, in case her consciousness returns.

Or, if Terri has a damaged brain trapped in a damaged body, but she can still exist, then can someone tell me why she "would have wanted to die?" I mean, she wouldn't have the mental ability to say, "this totally sucks! I want to die! I am not what I was!"

Because that is the "healthy brain" trapped in a "damaged body" voice talking.

But please, let us ask Stephen Hawking if even that is so bad.


1,211 posted on 03/19/2005 5:49:27 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Hello again, HoustonCurmudgeon: :)

See now, why do you comment - you are sure I need the last word? So please post following this. Insult me, be sarcastic and I promise I will not post back. I would like the opportunity to have this last response.

Your first post didn't explain to me your point as to why you felt it was reasonable that they didn't meet until later. You didn't give me a reason to consider otherwise. Just a comment that was a bit sarcastic. I'm not feeling well, this topic is upsetting, so I was a bit sarcastic back. For that, I sincerely do apologize. I didn't have to respond.

I remember 10/2003 when Terri was taken off of food for 6 days while they were putting issues in place. Suffering for 6 days. Yes, I really think this business should have been conducted sooner. She's suffering. The date of the 18th has been known and this could have been addressed long before today. My post is from frustration of the matter being addressed after she is not given food and water.

Also, Felos had Thanked a Senator, I can't recall who, yesterday at his press conference for purposely holding the process up yesterday. So my concern is they are taking too long, since this woman has been withheld food and water since yesterday at 1:30. If we do not agree on this, I agree we don't agree. I will not insult you.

1,212 posted on 03/19/2005 5:50:24 PM PST by GodBlessUSA (To all our Men and Woman in Uniform, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You!)
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To: freedomdefender
This is what natural death means:

1) Stop getting up.

2) Stop eating.

3) Stop drinking.

4) Stop waking up.

5) Stop breathing.

When someone who is "under your care" enters this sequence, I dare you to put in a feeding tube.

THAT'S barbarism.

1,213 posted on 03/19/2005 5:52:22 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: cajungirl

bravo. her crudeness deserves no courtesy


1,214 posted on 03/19/2005 5:52:59 PM PST by amystitz (at the risk f sounding like a "conspiracy nut"....)
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To: Jim Noble
"This happens hundreds of times every day. Ordinarily, it causes no controversy."

"It certainly isn;t somethying people are reticent to discuss."

With a huge determining factor being whether grandma has any assets to be lost to the cost of an extended nursing home stay. Wouldn't you say?

Deplorable...but legal.

1,215 posted on 03/19/2005 5:54:01 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: amystitz
bravo. her crudeness deserves no courtesy
The Lead Moderator disagrees with you.
1,216 posted on 03/19/2005 5:55:38 PM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Clara Lou

is that you?


1,217 posted on 03/19/2005 6:00:28 PM PST by amystitz
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To: amystitz

Am I the Lead Moderator? No.


1,218 posted on 03/19/2005 6:01:47 PM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: amystitz

I see the point of your question. Please see post #1184.


1,219 posted on 03/19/2005 6:03:36 PM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Jim Noble
"When someone who is "under your care" enters this sequence, I dare you to put in a feeding tube. THAT'S barbarism."

Tell that to a happy Cerebral Palsy child who is loved by their parents every day of their life.

Until you stop focusing on death you will never see life in the darnedest places.

1,220 posted on 03/19/2005 6:05:10 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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