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To: freedomdefender
This is what natural death means:

1) Stop getting up.

2) Stop eating.

3) Stop drinking.

4) Stop waking up.

5) Stop breathing.

When someone who is "under your care" enters this sequence, I dare you to put in a feeding tube.

THAT'S barbarism.

1,213 posted on 03/19/2005 5:52:22 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
"When someone who is "under your care" enters this sequence, I dare you to put in a feeding tube. THAT'S barbarism."

Tell that to a happy Cerebral Palsy child who is loved by their parents every day of their life.

Until you stop focusing on death you will never see life in the darnedest places.

1,220 posted on 03/19/2005 6:05:10 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Jim Noble

There are roughly 800,000 people in this country on feeding tubes. To kill them all and prevent them from
such barbarism, you're going to need a much bigger boat.


1,225 posted on 03/19/2005 6:13:13 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Jim Noble
THAT'S barbarism.

Yes, and we see it 180 degrees out from these other support people.

Natural death has been interrupted, and this is OK in cases where the patient has the smallest of chances to recover at least a portion of awareness and life's gifts.

In this gals case, it is barbaric to allow her to exist like this.

If a miracle is to occur, it would have occurred or will occur before she passes. What I see is the highest form of human selfishness imaginable, being portrayed for all to see.

I don't understand why others cannot sense this.I really don't. That is what I see.

1,226 posted on 03/19/2005 6:14:53 PM PST by Cold Heat (This space is being paid not to do anything.)
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To: Jim Noble

The first three are also symptoms of depression, curable.

The fourth added on is symptomatic of a medical problem from brain turmor to electrolyte imbalance, also curable

The first four plus five happened to my mothere who was very ill and had old lung disease from tuberculosis. She was resuscitated and lived a good while longer.

These are non specific signs that something is wrong, not a license to withold food and water and wait to die.


1,236 posted on 03/19/2005 6:27:13 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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