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Lab fireball 'may be black hole'
BBC News ^ | 3/17/2005

Posted on 03/17/2005 12:59:33 PM PST by flashbunny

Lab fireball 'may be black hole'

A fireball created in a US particle accelerator has the characteristics of a black hole, a physicist has said.

It was generated at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, US, which smashes beams of gold nuclei together at near light speeds.

Horatiu Nastase says his calculations show that the core of the fireball has a striking similarity to a black hole.

His work has been published on the pre-print website arxiv.org and is reported in New Scientist magazine.

When the gold nuclei smash into each other they are broken down into particles called quarks and gluons.

These form a ball of plasma about 300 times hotter than the surface of the Sun. This fireball, which lasts just 10 million, billion, billionths of a second, can be detected because it absorbs jets of particles produced by the beam collisions.

But Nastase, of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, says there is something unusual about it.

Ten times as many jets were being absorbed by the fireball as were predicted by calculations.

The Brown researcher thinks the particles are disappearing into the fireball's core and reappearing as thermal radiation, just as matter is thought to fall into a black hole and come out as "Hawking" radiation.

However, even if the ball of plasma is a black hole, it is not thought to pose a threat. At these energies and distances, gravity is not the dominant force in a black hole.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackhole; physics; science
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1 posted on 03/17/2005 12:59:33 PM PST by flashbunny
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To: flashbunny

I wonder if they found my old army paperwork in it and some missing socks...


2 posted on 03/17/2005 1:00:50 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: flashbunny

"However, even if the ball of plasma is a black hole, it is not thought to pose a threat. At these energies and distances, gravity is not the dominant force in a black hole.


Well, let's be careful anyway, guys. The world has lasted so long, it would be a pity.....


3 posted on 03/17/2005 1:01:13 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: flashbunny

Maybe I read too much Sci-fi, but when those folks at CERN get their thingamajig fired up and running, I'll be a tad less certain that the sun will rise next morning...


4 posted on 03/17/2005 1:02:13 PM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: flashbunny
"However, even if the ball of plasma is a black hole, it is not thought to pose a threat.",

Whew...had me worried there for a second. Glad to know people playing around with black holes aren't a threat.

5 posted on 03/17/2005 1:02:21 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: flashbunny
Maybe it's just a grape
6 posted on 03/17/2005 1:03:37 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: flashbunny

"At these energies and distances"


What distance?


7 posted on 03/17/2005 1:03:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: flashbunny

You do have an off switch right? Right?


8 posted on 03/17/2005 1:03:48 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: flashbunny

Rev. Jesse and Kweise ( sp) must be chomping at the bit about this breaking news !


9 posted on 03/17/2005 1:07:14 PM PST by Renegade
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To: TheForceOfOne

Use it to reverse global warming


10 posted on 03/17/2005 1:08:00 PM PST by spokeshave (Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
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To: ShadowAce

Who ever thought of that experiment?


11 posted on 03/17/2005 1:08:01 PM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: cripplecreek

"This fireball, which lasts just 10 million, billion, billionths of a second"


12 posted on 03/17/2005 1:08:06 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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13 posted on 03/17/2005 1:08:17 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: flashbunny
Big deal, I created a fireball and a 'black hole' in Electronics class in high school using a high voltage outlet and a length of solder bent in a horseshoe. :)
14 posted on 03/17/2005 1:09:18 PM PST by Daus
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To: Paradox

Shades of Dan Brown.


15 posted on 03/17/2005 1:10:45 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: flashbunny
" This fireball, which lasts just 10 million, billion, billionths of a second, ..

So this fireball last about 115 days??!!

16 posted on 03/17/2005 1:10:48 PM PST by Ken522
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To: spokeshave
Tell the Democrats its a time machine, they'll sell everything they own to fund it. lol
17 posted on 03/17/2005 1:12:09 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: proxy_user; flashbunny; Cornpone; TheForceOfOne

"Of course it's Stable!
I've done the calculations!"


18 posted on 03/17/2005 1:12:25 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: flashbunny

Black hole? Reminds me of a bar I used to frequent.


19 posted on 03/17/2005 1:12:31 PM PST by llevrok (Daylight's burnin' . Things to do!)
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To: Paradox

Kind of makes you wonder about the cool toys they have and don't tell us about.


20 posted on 03/17/2005 1:12:59 PM PST by NY-YANK
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