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SCHIAVO CASE: APPEAL COURT SAYS NO TO HER PARENTS
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Posted on 03/16/2005 10:06:33 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- A state appeals court has refused to block the expected removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube on Friday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: schiavo; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: george wythe
"On the other hand, from a judges' viewpoint, the Schindlers came across as not believable witnesses; they seemed to be afflicted with fanatical beliefs. Fanatical people are known to massage the facts to further their cause."

OK, GEORGE - how's THIS for "fantacism"???? Seems like Greer is "kinda shifty, AND scary?"

"If you google Robert W. Melton, Chief Deputy Director Internal Audit Division and Pinellas County, you will find that this man who has been appointed by the FL legislature to audit the guardianship accounts in Pinellas Co. and has been denied access to do so by Greer, says there have been tons of people like Terri that Greer has assigned a guardian to and once their money is gone (as quickly as the guardians can make it vanish by selling property at below market values, etc.), some of whom have had large sums, Greer then makes the person gone just like he is doing to Terri. He NEVER reverses himself in guardianship cases no matter what charges are brought. One woman was arrested for "kidnapping" her mother and taking her to another state before they did her in. She was not tried and her mother remained in her care, but they never saw a dime of the mother's money despite her attempts to force Pinellas Co. and Greer to disgorge it. Lovely little scam they have going.

87 posted on 03/16/2005 11:06:53 AM PST by penowa"

381 posted on 03/16/2005 1:48:01 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: STARWISE

Tearful Thank you for the Ping!


382 posted on 03/16/2005 1:48:11 PM PST by Kitty Mittens
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To: STARWISE; george wythe

It is sad when people are called fanatics for profoundly expressing a belief and putting that belief into action
to help someone.

They used to call it a moral standing. Now its fanaticism?


383 posted on 03/16/2005 1:48:31 PM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER white meat.)
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To: ORECON

Don't mention God, because you obviously don't know Him..
God doesn't care about your brain, your autographs, or what you do for a living... your heart and devotion to others and Him is all He's interested in.. why you even bother posting here is a mystery.


384 posted on 03/16/2005 1:49:26 PM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: cyn

you're wasting your time with "Orecon" ... his opinion of himself is far too elevated to care what us mere mortals think.. like most liberals in sheep's clothing, he doesn't care about actual "evidence" or "facts".. he's only here to make himself feel good because his own life is so sad.
He will claim to have degrees, money, and friends, but he's probably a 16 yr old momma's boy sitting in his basement.


385 posted on 03/16/2005 1:52:52 PM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: george wythe
Fanatical people are known to massage the facts to further their cause.

Their cause is saving their daughter, you ghoul.

386 posted on 03/16/2005 1:53:09 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Politicalmom
She is ALREADY in the hands of the Lord.

Great post!!

387 posted on 03/16/2005 1:54:16 PM PST by The Citizen Soldier
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To: Awestruck

Hahahahaha!!! That is funny!!!!!


388 posted on 03/16/2005 1:54:52 PM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER white meat.)
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To: atruelady

"They used to call it a moral standing. Now its fanaticism?"

It's fanaticism to those who worship themselves over everything else... or to part-time "christians", those who pick and choose what parts of the religion they want to follow.. they who are either 'christians' to make themselves feel elevated or secure, or go to church as another social venue.


389 posted on 03/16/2005 1:55:22 PM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: All

I am new to freep and don't know how to post a thread.

I have an exclusive interview I did with Bobby Schindler and BLOGGER is the pits! acting up -- and I cannot post it.

Anyone here want to post this????


390 posted on 03/16/2005 1:58:28 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: All
AMAZING!! Every facet of the sham trial that condemned Terri was RIGGED from the start!!!!

Its NO WONDER Greer 'found' her to be in PVS!

I wonder how many other poor souls Greer has put to death using his corrupt tactics!!!



Shown with Governor Jeb Bush is Terri's Primary Doctor from 1998 thru 2002, Dr. Victor Gambone(right), who had the greatest medical knowledge of Terri while her 'condition' was being determined by the court.

Dr. Gambone stated Terri was aware, and she was not PVS.

Judge Greer stated he was ignoring Dr. Gambone's testimony and opinion's, even though he was Terri's personal doctor, and even though the Judge asked Dr. Gambone to do the evaluation.

Dr. Gambone resigned as Terri's doctor shortly thereafter.

391 posted on 03/16/2005 1:59:16 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: texasbluebell

OMG... you just gave me chills...


392 posted on 03/16/2005 2:05:55 PM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: FL_engineer; All
GREAT NEWS!!! Since Florida has apparently failed in its duty to protect life and liberty of the most vulnerable against, to all intents and purposes, criminal judges, attorneys who are in business of fleecing and killing their wards and aiding and abetting in certain instances criminally conflicted guardians in attempted murder and in some cases successful murder we have to rely on true american patriots to come to our aid. I thank Mr. Gritz for his assistance and will be spreading this all across the globe and hopefully even Floridians will go and do the same thing in regards to their duty to protect life, liberty and happiness and putting under arrest those who are subverting our state and federal constitutions. ___ *Col. Gritz will arrive in Pinellas Park later today *_*Press Release *_ _* 16 March 2005 *_* TRUE GRIT(Z) RIDES AGAIN: FILES CITIZEN’S ARREST IN SHIAVO CASE Former Green Beret Commander Bo Gritz is charging-in once again. The 66 year-old retired Army Lt. Colonel with his wife, Judy, drove straight through from their Southern Nevada home to Pinellas Park, Florida in their own effort to rescue Terri Schindler-Shiavo. In his typically unconventional fashion, Gritz is arresting Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer and Terri Schiavo’s estranged husband, Michael Schiavo, plus anyone else who would aid or abet in removing Terri’s feeding tube. * *Bo and Judy arrived this evening, after furnishing a notarized “Citizen’s Arrest Warrant” to Governor Jeb Bush and Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist. Gritz intends on “papering” State and Federal enforcement offices with his warrant on Thursday, one day before Judge Greer has ordered the denial of food and water to Terri Schiavo. Gritz says the “arrest” is meant to allow officials additional options as the Florida State Executive and Legislative Branches maneuver to secure Terri Schiavo from starvation. “It’s just another arrow in the quiver which may help pro-Terri forces to counter Judge Greer’s death-order,” says Gritz. The “Gritz-effect” remains to be seen, but he successfully used the arrest-tool against federal law enforcement in August 1992 when he intervened in the siege at Ruby Ridge, Idaho and brought what was left of the Randy Weaver family down the hill without further bloodshed. Sammy, the 14 year-old Weaver boy, was killed along with his mother, Vicki, and U.S. Marshal William Degan. Randy Weaver and another man, Kevin Harris, were wounded by police gun-fire. Gritz secured the services of renowned defense lawyer Gerry Spence, and the U.S. Department of Justice paid the Weavers $3.2-million in an out-of-court settlement. Harris was awarded more than $300,000. Gritz was also present during the longest FBI-siege at the Montana Freemen compound, and helped in the failed-search for Olympic bombing suspect Eric Rudolph -- due for prosecution in Birmingham this month. Gritz says while he doesn’t want to “cause trouble,”he gets involved when it appears Americans are in needless life-and-death situations with the law. Citing his officer’s oath of allegiance to “defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic,” Gritz says while he doesn’t know Terri Schiavo personally, she nevertheless represents an American in danger of citizen-rights abuse, and he feels an obligation to act while she remains alive. Says Gritz: “Amer-I-cans will always fight for freedom. Millions of our military place their life on the line to keep tyranny away from our shores.” He acknowledges and supports the broad-front of Americans who have for years stood-up in saving the life of Terri Schiavo. Besides a “Terri-Bill” under consideration in the U.S. Congress, the Florida Legislature votes Friday on a modified-measure to keep Terri’s life-support in place. A previous Florida Bill was ruled un-Constitutional barring further intervention by Governor Bush. “We all do what we can. Most people wisely don’t arrest important officials, it can be non-habit forming. It’s my contribution, as I see it,” says Gritz. While threatened with arrest at Ruby Ridge and Jordon, Montana, when the smoke-cleared, the much decorated war hero instead walked away with FBI letters of appreciation. Time and events will soon tell if his presence is thus appreciated in Florida. A copy of the Gritz Warrant language is attached. * *_CITIZEN’S ARREST NOTICE _* *_ _I, James G. “Bo” Gritz, a private citizen, being an American by birth in Enid, Oklahoma, on 18 January 1939, and possessing personal knowledge (reasonable cause) that certain individuals and agencies in and around Pinellas Park, Florida have committed, or will soon commit, specific felony violation of U.S. and Florida State laws, do hereby issue and publish this _Citizen’s Arrest Notice_ requesting government agencies responsible for enforcement, including the Pinellas County Sheriff, Florida Attorney General, State Police, FBI, district attorneys and local police departments arrest the identified person(s) for crimes already committed and restrain them from committing further violations identified in this document. The focus of this action is to secure the personal safety of Theresa “Terri” Marie Schindler-Schiavo, a natural-born U.S. Citizen currently being held in the Woodside Hospice (727-541-4199) at 6774 102^nd Avenue N in Pinellas Park, FL 33782-2909 (Scott Kistler, Vice President of Operations, 727-586-4432). Terri is paralyzed and in need of care by the Woodside staff – specifically the provision of nourishment and hydration at meal times through a feeding tube. The specific threat is the wrongful withholding of nourishment from Terri Schiavo beginning at 1:00 p.m. local-time on 18 March 2005 with the specific purpose of her death through starvation and dehydration, as ordered by Circuit Judge George W. Greer (727-464-3933) in the Probate Division of the Circuit Court for Pinellas County, Florida at 2:50 p.m. on 25 February 2005; to be executed by Michael Schiavo (Marrie Ct, Clearwater, FL). This is a felony conspiracy to cause the wrongful death of an innocent person. The conspiracy will become a homicide if carried through to completion. With the exception of the feeding tube at meal time, Terri Schiavo is on no other form of life support-system. She is not in a comma – she opens and moves her eyes; she is aware, recognizes and reacts to people and other stimuli. She is paralyzed, but more than 17 physicians and medical specialists have signed affidavits believing her condition will improve with proper therapy*. *Nobel Prize nominee Dr. William Hammesfahr has examined Terri and states her injury is a type of stroke that he treats everyday with success. Terri’s parents, Robert and Mary Schindler are prepared to assume responsibility for continued care of their daughter. The American people, the U.S. Congress, Florida Legislature, Governor Jeb Bush, Florida Department of Children and Families, the Vatican, numerous public interest groups, and luminary Americans are making public their adamant interest sustaining Terri’s life. As an American, Terri Schindler-Schiavo is protected under both U.S. Constitutional Laws and Florida Statutes which have been over-ridden by Judge George Greer. The 8^th Amendment forbids cruel and unusual punishment. Not even the most heinous criminals are starved to death! The 14^th Amendment protects her human rights as an American. Florida Statute 744.3215 (Rights of Persons Determined Incapacitated) forbids depriving Terri of food and water, a felony. Florida Statute 765.404 requires the diagnosis of “persistent vegetative state” be determined as “permanent” prior to withdrawal of life prolonging means. Judge Greer has refused any further definitive tests (MRI) to ascertain Terri’s current status. Florida Statute 765.309 prevents mercy killing and assisted suicide. Florida Statute 765.404 calls for clear and convincing evidence of a ward’s intent concerning life and death medical decisions. Terri is a Catholic (suicide and assisted termination not an option); Judge Grer ruled-out pro-life testimony and accepted instead Michael Schivo’s self-serving hearsay that he had heard Terri refer to ceasing life-support on one occasion (violation of FL Statute 90.602). This Citizen’s Arrest Warrant becomes null and void upon transfer of guardianship for Terri Schindler-Schiavo to her mother and father, or the Florida Department of Children & Families, prior to 1:00 p.m. on 18 March 2005. As the plaintiff, I will physically be present in Pinellas Park at the Woodside Hospice. I am causing this complaint to be widely distributed so appropriate officials are made aware and may act to prevent this cruel death. As previously stated: The sole purpose of this document and resulting action(s) is to safeguard a helpless Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Any action that accomplishes this objective satisfies this Citizen’s Arrest Notice. Sworn to and Certified before a Notary Public on this date I am James G. “Bo” Gritz, a Private Person and U.S. Citizen, resident address: HC-37, Box 472, Sandy Valley, NV 89019.*
393 posted on 03/16/2005 2:06:41 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: pc93
Col. Gritz will arrive in Pinellas Park later today

Thanks for posting that pc93. That is good news. He don't take no s**t.

394 posted on 03/16/2005 2:16:51 PM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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To: bjs1779

LOL!!

I didn't know that was already posted!!

LOL!!


395 posted on 03/16/2005 2:20:02 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: eeevil conservative
*Col. Gritz will arrive in Pinellas Park later today *_*Press Release *_ _* 16 March 2005 *_* TRUE GRIT(Z) RIDES AGAIN: FILES CITIZEN’S ARREST IN SHIAVO CASE Former Green Beret Commander Bo Gritz is charging-in once again.

Oh boy, this is getting better by the minute. He will not let them strave her while he is still alive.

396 posted on 03/16/2005 2:21:42 PM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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To: eeevil conservative

You don't mess with this guy

397 posted on 03/16/2005 2:27:17 PM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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To: eeevil conservative

Do you have a link for that?


398 posted on 03/16/2005 2:28:12 PM PST by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: eeevil conservative

This is so awesome.

This man is a treasure.


399 posted on 03/16/2005 2:33:58 PM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER white meat.)
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To: atruelady

You are going to see a lot of milita type people come on in to town now..


400 posted on 03/16/2005 2:36:43 PM PST by bjs1779 (" It is unlikely that Terri currently needs the feeding tube." Examination by Dr. Hammesfahr 9/12/02)
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