Posted on 03/13/2005 11:48:24 AM PST by cyn
There's quite a lot of information about Terri Schiavo, much of it here on FR. FR is like a basement or storage room with lots of boxes labeled “Terri”. But the information in those dusty old threads, some of it painstakingly researched and retrieved, is getting buried and lost, unusable for latercomers (and, speaking from experience, forgotten except as an “I kinda remember...” foggy recollection). This leads to people putting precious time into rediscovering what had been put together a year or more ago, and an inability to relate information easily -- it's all here "somewhere". (Pause at this point to acknowledge and thank the earliest Freepers who posted about Terri here, and to enlist your comments and support.)
So “Terri Schiavo Info Cataloguing Threads” are just that:
an attempt to collect, source (or discredit), and catalog/categorize facts and information -- aka nuggets -- related to Terri Schiavo.This will then permit easier access, scrutiny, analysis, and use by many more people, since very few have time to read every post. Each thread will in essence be a “parking lot” for what at first will be odd information. That will then be organized into a successively more usable and complete form.
This is roughly patterned after Alamo Girl’s Downside Legacy work. This is what I have in mind, and by golly, Alamo Girl already said it:
The following list is a compilation from Free Republic posters, edited by Free Republic posters. It is dynamic, subject to continuing authentication, editing, correction and expansion.The list seeks to exclude emotion, judgment and rhetoric by using minimal qualifiers and gentler words - such as "contradiction" over the more inflammatory alternative. Please help to keep the list up-to-date, draw your own conclusions, and use it as you wish." (6/11/98)
It is also inspired by threads, such as the Waco ones, in which individuals pored over photos and information in an attempt to arrive at a better understanding of the situation. In those threads, a pile of rough information, known facts, half truths, obfuscations, red herrings, and dead ends is distilled into a picked-clean pile of truths.
Please respect the overall INTENT of these threads -- TO GATHER, SOURCE, and CATALOG INFORMATION (raw data, insight, expertise) -- and individual posters. Superfluous off-topic posts will make this more difficult. Either take arguments off thread, or agree to disagree to disagree. IOW, “big kids” only, no troll warnings necessary, and this should work.
Organization is according to the following keywords that have withstood my own initial feasibility checks which can certainly be supplemented and refined:
1 Schiavomedical** -- Medical, starting with proving or rejecting of these two points:1a Terri Schiavo is not in a persistent vegetative state.
1b Regardless of her condition (PVS or not), Terri is not receiving the care that another similar patient would. -- which brings in the current DCF investigation.1a Schiavomeddocs -- Catalog of medical info / records / documents / medical related depositions & witness statements -- to permit easier “fingertip” access instead of wondering where they went!
1b SchiavoDCF** -- DCF complaints and investigation, attempts to discredit it (talk about “don’t need to be a weatherman to see which way the wind blows”, this was it!)
2 Schiavomedia -- Media coverage, or not.
2a Schiavoimages** -- Photos / video / audio / images available, rare glimpses of Terri’s situation -- to permit easier access to
3 Schiavophilosophy -- philosophical view; meaning and importance of Terri’s life
3a Terriphilosophy -- Terri’s own beliefs, convictions, practices, lifestyle, worldview
3b Schiavoreligion -- church related information, vatican statements, local hierarchy actions, inactions, concerns, relationship to others (eg, business dealings, donations to campaigns).
3b Schiavosupport -- individuals and groups who have come out in support of, or opposed to, Terri’s return to her family so that she can receive the care she needs, and why.
4 Schiavobusiness -- left to others to organize and post -- financial and business aspects and relations, including that now-defunct but still mysterious Jerger Centonze Insurnace [sic, just as it was incorporated at SunBiz]
5 Schiavolegislative -- left to others to organize and post -- rationale, reality of 1999 change to make hydration and nutrition “extraordinary measures”; Jim King’s legacy
6 Schiavojudicial -- left to others to organize and post -- courts, lawsuits, guardian issues, recall efforts, depositions, witness statements (Carla Iyer et al)
6a Schiavojuddocs -- documents related to the above.
10a Schiavocollapse -- Terri’s initial collapse, including reports of Micheal’s actions (or, in the case of CPR and calling 911, inactions, and discrepancies in his (and his lawyers) recounting of events of that night, eg court testimony on one occasion vs court testimony on another occasion vs Larry King Live vs other interviews.
** my most important topics. I'm thinking [ ] will show information and { } will show source; _____ means info needed.
I’ll post a few sample threads later to experiment with “parking information” onto them, and those links will be down thread. Let me know any suggestions, additions. I would prefer to turn the individual category threads -- especially legislative, and judicial -- over to the most involved, knowledgeable, and capable individuals in those areas.
Ping! Hope you don't mind, this may be a good resource of info for us all.
Note that the answer to "Terminal Diagnosis:" is handwritten in, unlike all the other information, which is typed.
Thanks! I'm addressing & looking at everything here to start with, as I test if this is workable. So far, so good with the preliminary classification system.
Progress Note Dr. Alcazaran
Meadowbrook, California facility 11/29/90 admitted, here
Done 12/12/90.
12/19/90 back to Meadowbrook from acute care.
Discharged 1/20/91 Has been home x 1 wk.
2/19/1991
Physical Therapy Monthly Summary
Terri came to Mediplex in a completely inadequate chair for her seating needs, no date found for admission.
7/16/1991 Pt discharged to Sable Palms, same links as above.
Why did #17 get deleted? Is it wrong to post an actual document?
Not many, if any, women would want an estranged husband such as Michael, to be appointed their guardian and be given to power to have them killed.
And any analysis by Dr. Gambone should be considered suspect since he states life expectancy 6 months, and that was in 2000.
And he didn't sign it, now did he?
A mistake, or a mistaeak? Insurance or Insurnance ? What's a typo or two when your running Insurance scams for organized crime?
Doctor Gambone made his prognosis based upon what he knew at the time. How was he to know people would be as successful as they've been preventing Terri's execution"passing on"? Were it not for such unforeseeable actions, Terri would have been murdered"passed on" ages ago.
Or based upon part of a minimum of $14 million dollars.
Wonder who signed the death warrants on the other over 150 patients that the government is basing the fraudulent claims on?
Praying for our Lord's Blessings to Rest Upon this Project, to the Praise of His Eternal Glory.
Goodnight prayers for Terri!
I join you in prayer...
Hi, Ohioan -- it's because it contained personal information. Thanks again for finding that, bjs . . . can it perhaps be blacked out so it can be posted? That's the kind of thing that needs to keep coming out. Terri's tube should never get to the point of being pulled on Fri -- this is ridiculous, like a bad dream. Somebody pinch me.
Actions for Terri;
http://tekgnosis.typepad.com
http://blogsforterri.com
http://www.terrisfight.org
Somewhere Dr. Gambone stated Terri was aware,she was not PVS.
Then, the MSM tried to imply Dr. Gambone stated she was PVS by saying Dr. Gambone and 5 other doctors stated that.
His name was on the PVS eval, but no signature, and he resigned as her doctor soon after.
FL_engineer needs the info I stated in the first line. Are you aware of this or can you point him to the source?
cyn -
I've been thinking about your categories. How about one with all of Michael's girlfriends/relationships since he and Terri were married? We know he had a couple after Terri's collapse but before Jodi (using the rationale that "Terri would want him to be happy") - but what if it could be proven that he had girlfriends **after** their marriage but **before** her collapse? That would disprove his lie that "he loves Terri and wants to fulfill her wishes" - it would pretty much prove that he NEVER loved her!
Test post - working on my Terri ping list...
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