Posted on 03/10/2005 12:22:56 PM PST by amdgmary
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- A judge ruled Thursday that the state's social services agency cannot delay the removal of the feeding tube keeping brain-damaged Terri Schiavo alive.
The Department of Children & Families had asked for a 60-day delay in the removal of the feeding tube, now scheduled March 18. The agency said it wanted time to investigate allegations of abuse and neglect by the woman's husband, Michael Schiavo.
But Circuit Judge George W. Greer ruled that the agency's attempt to get involved at this point was inappropriate and "appears to be brought for the purpose of circumventing the court's final judgment ... in violation of the separation of powers doctrine."
Michael Schiavo's attorney had criticized the last-minute attempt by DCF to get involved, saying that it was engineered by Gov. Jeb Bush and others in the state government who support the plight of her parents who are trying to keep her alive.
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Michael Schiavo has gotten a court order to remove the feeding tube, contending that his wife told him she wouldn't want to be kept alive artificially. A 1990 heart attack cut off oxygen to her brain for five minutes, leaving her in what the court has ruled is a vegetative state with no consciousness. She breathes on her own but depends on a tube in her abdomen for food and water.
But her parents doubt she had those end-of-life wishes and are trying to block removal of the feeding tube.
The judge's ruling was another major blow to Bob and Mary Schindler, who have fought their son-in-law in court for nearly seven years over their daughter's fate. They dispute that she is in a persistent vegetative state, saying she laughs, cries, interacts with them and tries to speak when they visit her at her hospice.
The DCF said it wanted to investigate accusations against Miachel Schiavo - who is her legal guaridan - that included denying his wife some medical treatment and therapy, isolating her in her room with the blinds closed, failing to fix her broken wheelchair and failing to file timely guardianship plans.
In his order, Greer noted that those and many other allegations have been investigated in the past and failed to yield any evidence of abuse and neglect by Michael Schiavo.
Other than trying to appeal judge's decisions that have gone against them this week, the Schindlers will look again to the state Legislature and perhaps the U.S. Congress for help. Both bodies have bills in the works that lawmakers say could save Terri Schiavo's life.
In Tallahassee Wednesday, a House committee approved a bill requiring doctors to provide nutrition and hydration to incapacitated patients who didn't leave an advance directive. It still needs approval from two more committees before facing the full House.
Bush, who has said he would do anything within his power to save Terri Schiavo, supports the bill.
The governor in October 2003 pushed a law through the Legislature authorizing him to resume the woman's artificial feedings six days after the court stopped them. The law subsequently was ruled unconstitutional by the state Supreme Court.
On Tuesday, U.S. Rep. Dave Weldon and U.S. Sen. Mel Martinez, both Florida Republicans, introduced legislation in Washington that could give the Schindlers access to federal courts in the effort to save their daughter's life. Their bill requires that incapacitated people who don't leave advance directives have attorneys appointed to give the case a full review before artificial life support is terminated.
That's what this entire decision to STARVE Terri rests upon. And it just isn't there.
Now you are changing the subject. You said: "something that falls under the definition of euthanasia. Euthanasia is ASSISTING someone in ending their life."
That's why I said to start another thread, because no one is ASSISTING Terri. They are MURDERING Terri.
Then you said: "No one is sticking a needle in Terry, or doing anything to her other than removing a feeding tube so that she can be in her natural state. It is called not using any artificial means to keep someone alive, especially as the husband states that his wife said she would not want to be kept alive in the kind of circumstance she is now in."
Then when I told you that many people use feeding tubes, some of them are children, YOU CHANGED THE SUBJECT and said that they are not PVS.
Well since you decided to CHANGE THE SUBJECT, Terri is not PVS. People with PVS don't laugh a jokes, or cry, and say a few words, and try to talk. Terri could talk with THERAPY, but Michael won't allow THERAPY.
BTW, you must know that you are wrong, otherwise, you WOULD NOT CHANGE THE SUBJECT when losing an argument.
Constitutionally, the Governor himself, can also take Terri into custody.
"People with PVS don't laugh a jokes, or cry, and say a few words, and try to talk."
And neither does Terri. You live in a fantasy world.
And, BTW, I can't continue to argue with someone who is irrational when it comes to the Schiavo case. So, good nite, and sleep tight.
LOL!
A judge is supposed to be impartial.
I think that you'll agree that he has long since lost any impartiality if he ever had any. He wants to see a specific outcome. He is not supposed to care who wins. It's clear that he wants her to die.
What's one more MRI? If Terri had no cerebral cortex, then it will still not be there. Let's make sure it's still not there is what I'm saying. Maybe it's there. Maybe there was a miracle or something. Let's just make sure.
I would say Judge Greer is a POOR finder of fact. GREER chooses to HEAR the HEARsay he wants to HEAR.
Please see #510.
Ping to #509.
Am I making sense here, or what?
Yes, it is a right-to-live case, but it is also a right-to-kill case. Judge Greer is doing everything he can so that her husband call kill her.
I can't understand how Greer can get away with not allowing the DCF to investigate, not reviewing the fact that he claimed Terri was a minor, when she was an adult when discussing the Karen Quinlan case with her friend, and all the horrible things that he has done.
Are there no checks and balances?
If Greer, Michael and Felos get away with this, it will set a precedent and every guardian might have the right-to-kill, if a patient is too ill to fight for themself.
With our prayers, and hard work, they won't get away with this.
COURT. Singular. One. One court. One judge. A judge who is not impartial. Whether it is his god-like ego or a specific agenda, I don't know, but he is too emotionally involved in this case.
Just like MS should be removed as guardian because of his obvious conflict of interest, this Greer should be removed because he is no longer objective.
Just wondering if Terri wanted to be CREMATED as well as STARVED?
So parents should let their kids starve if they're not born with the ability to eat with a spoon and fork?
Ahh, but Terri DOES laugh a jokes, cried when Michael was in her room, says a few words, and tries to talk.
My favorite video of Terri is the one where she laughs when her dad reminds her of when she used to tease her mother, and roll her eye (Terri had "lazy eye").
If anyone wants to see this video, which only takes a minute, visit:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1345652/posts?page=28
Then go to Post #28 & click the link.
Keep in mind when Terri makes sounds, she is attempting to talk, but needs therapy in order to talk. Even without therapy, Terri can say a few words. Sadly, Michael won't allow her to have ANY kind of therapy.
Have a good sleep. Perhaps after a good nights' rest, who knows? Sorry I bested you.
Greer decision about the additional testing is more evidence of his lack of impartiality. So too his decision about Terri's cremation.
BINGO! It wouldn't matter for Judge Greer to allow it, but it would provide confirmation for the Schindlers, and all of us. We would have to face reality at that point, and finally put that part of it to rest.
I say to have one last MRI to confirm the truth to us. Is that too much to ask?
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