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U.S. Says It Has Withdrawn From World Judicial Body
NY Times ^ | March 10, 2005 | ADAM LIPTAK

Posted on 03/09/2005 8:35:05 PM PST by neverdem

Prompted by an international tribunal's decision last year ordering new hearings for 51 Mexicans on death rows in the United States, the State Department said yesterday that the United States had withdrawn from the protocol that gave the tribunal jurisdiction to hear such disputes.

The withdrawal followed a Feb. 28 memorandum from President Bush to Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales directing state courts to abide by the decision of the tribunal, the International Court of Justice in The Hague. The decision required American courts to grant "review and reconsideration" to claims that the inmates' cases had been hurt by the failure of local authorities to allow them to contact consular officials.

The memorandum, issued in connection with a case the United States Supreme Court is scheduled to hear this month, puzzled state prosecutors, who said it seemed inconsistent with the administration's general hostility to international institutions and its support for the death penalty.

The withdrawal announced yesterday helps explains the administration's position.

Darla Jordan, a State Department spokeswoman, said the administration was troubled by foreign interference in the domestic capital justice system but intended to fulfill its obligations under international law.

But Ms. Jordan said, "We are protecting against future International Court of Justice judgments that might similarly interfere in ways we did not anticipate when we joined the optional protocol."

Peter J. Spiro, a law professor at the University of Georgia, said the withdrawal was unbecoming.

"It's a sore-loser kind of move," Professor Spiro said. "If we can't win, we're not going to play."

Ms. Jordan emphasized that the United States was not withdrawing from the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations itself, which gives people arrested abroad the right to contact their home countries' consulates. But the United States is withdrawing, she said, from an optional protocol that gives the International Court of Justice in The Hague, the principal judicial organ of the United Nations, jurisdiction to hear disputes under the convention.

"While roughly 160 countries belong to the consular convention," she said, "less than 30 percent of those countries belong to the optional protocol. By withdrawing from the protocol, the United States has joined the 70 percent of the countries that do not belong. For example, Brazil, Canada, Jordan, Russia and Spain do not belong."

Among the countries that have signed the protocol are Australia, Britain, Germany and Japan.

Ms. Jordan said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice informed Kofi Annan, the secretary general of the United Nations, of the move on Monday.

Harold Hongju Koh, the dean of the Yale Law School and a former State Department official in the Clinton administration, said the Bush administration's strategy was counterproductive.

"International adjudication is an important tool in a post-cold-war, post-9/11 world," Dean Koh said.

For 40 years, from 1946 to 1986, the United States accepted the general jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice in all kinds of cases against other nations that had also agreed to the court's jurisdiction. After an unfavorable ruling from the court in 1986 over the mining of Nicaragua's harbors, the United States withdrew from the court's general jurisdiction.

But it continued to accept its jurisdiction under about 70 specific treaties, including the protocol withdrawn from on Monday, said Lori F. Damrosch, a law professor at Columbia. The other treaties cover subjects like navigation, terrorism, narcotics and copyrights, and they are unaffected.

The United States Supreme Court is scheduled to hear the case of José Ernesto Medellín, a Mexican on death row in Texas, on March 28. Mr. Medellín asks the court to enforce last year's judgment of the international tribunal. Texas opposes the request.

When the federal government filed its supporting brief for Texas in the case at the end of last month, it appended the memorandum from the president to the attorney general.

Before the administration's strategy came into focus, international law professors greeted the memorandum with amazement.

"This is a president who has been openly hostile to international law and international institutions knuckling under, and knuckling under where there are significant federalism concerns," Professor Spiro said.

As it turned out, Dean Koh said, the government had "an integrated strategy."

"Element 1," he continued, "was to take the bat out of the Supreme Court's hand."

Lawyers for Mr. Medellín reacted cautiously. In a motion filed in the Supreme Court yesterday, Donald F. Donovan, a lawyer with the New York law firm Debevoise & Plimpton, asked the court to put off hearing argument until Texas state courts could consider Mr. Medellín's claim.

For their part, Texas prosecutors have not conceded that the president has the power to force courts there to reopen the Medellín case.

In a statement, Jerry Strickland, a spokesman for Attorney General Greg Abbott of Texas, questioned the president's authority.

"The State of Texas believes no international court supersedes the laws of Texas or the laws of the United States," Mr. Strickland said. "We respectfully believe the executive determination exceeds the constitutional bounds for federal authority."

Sandra Babcock, a Minnesota lawyer who represents the government of Mexico, said she had no doubt that the president was authorized to instruct state courts to reopen Mr. Medellín's case and 50 others.

"The law is on our side," Ms. Babcock said. "The president is on our side. I keep having to slap myself."


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To: neverdem
"The State of Texas believes no international court supersedes the laws of Texas or the laws of the United States," Mr. Strickland said. "We respectfully believe the executive determination exceeds the constitutional bounds for federal authority."

YEEEEEEE-HAW!

THANK YOU MR. ABBOTT, AND MR. STRICKLAND, FOR HAVING THE COJONES TO SAY WHAT NEEDED SAYIN'! AND THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FOR GETTING US OUT OF THE HAGUE!

61 posted on 03/09/2005 10:05:38 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: thoughtomator
Come to think of it, putting the Professor in an institution might be the ideal solution.

LOL, that's a good one.

62 posted on 03/09/2005 10:06:53 PM PST by liberty2004
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To: Smartass
Maybe Pres. Bush and his people been reading "Men In Black."

We can only wish. I ordered the book yesterday, looking forward to reading it.

63 posted on 03/09/2005 10:08:26 PM PST by liberty2004
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To: liberty2004

Maybe we need to do what castro did in the mariel boat lift. FIll up a planes with the worst of the illegal alien criminals and fly them deep into south america or where ever south of the border and release them there.


64 posted on 03/09/2005 10:11:22 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Centurion2000
Hell, let's make them REALLY angry.


65 posted on 03/09/2005 10:12:11 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: CAluvdubya

Ping to 65. 8)


66 posted on 03/09/2005 10:13:14 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: peyton randolph
Sounds like Spiro is a typical Dimwit pinko prof with his panties in a bunch over W taking action to protect U.S. interests from frogs.

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Peter J. Spiro joined the faculty of the University of Georgia School of Law in the Fall of 2004 as holder of the Dean and Virginia Rusk professorship in international law. Before coming to Georgia Law, Spiro spent 10 years at Hofstra University School of Law serving as a tenured professor and associate dean for faculty development. He specializes in international law, the constitutional aspects of U.S. foreign relations, and immigration and nationality law.

Spiro’s recent scholarship includes: “Disaggregating U.S. Interests in International Law” in Law and Contemporary Problems (forthcoming 2004), “Treaties, International Law, and Constitutional Rights” in the Stanford Law Review (2003) and “Globalization and the (Foreign Affairs) Constitution” in the Ohio State Law Journal (2002). He has also published articles in the Texas, Michigan, New York University, Fordham, Virginia, William & Mary and Emory law reviews and has contributed analysis to such publications as Foreign Affairs, The Wall Street Journal and The New Republic. Additionally, Spiro is a frequent speaker in academic and policy forums on dual citizenship, the interaction of federal states with the international system, and the role of non-governmental organizations in international institutions.

In 1993-94, he served as a Council on Foreign Relations International Affairs Fellow, during which he studied the growing role of NGOs in international decision-making. Spiro was awarded an Open Society Institute/Soros Foundation fellowship to study the law of American citizenship in 1997-98. He served as a visiting professor at the University of Texas Law School in the spring of 2001. Recently, he was ranked as a member of the top 20 in a survey of the academic citation frequency of legal scholars entering the field since 1992.

Spiro is a former law clerk to Justice David H. Souter of the U.S. Supreme Court and Judge Stephen F. Williams of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. He has also served as director for democracy on the staff of the National Security Council (a White House position), as an attorney-adviser in the U.S. Department of State’s Office of the Legal Adviser and as a resident associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Spiro obtained his bachelor’s degree magna cum laude from Harvard College, where he served as reviews editor for the Harvard Political Review. He earned his law degree from the University of Virginia School of Law, where he was inducted into the Order of the Coif and served as notes editor of the Virginia Law Review and on the editorial board of the Virginia Journal of International Law.



 

 
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67 posted on 03/09/2005 10:14:25 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: adam_az

What is wrong with this equation? .. "foreign interference in the domestic capital justice system..."

How about this boiler plate, edited, version:

"foreign interference in the (U.S.) domestic [fill in the blank here] system.."

Good God, what would George Washington have to say? Our Founding Fathers (and their wives) would have none of this B.S. Our National Sovereignty, Independence and Constitution, and agents of the Aforementioned, are faithful and steady bulwarks "amid the flood of mortal ills prevailing" (Luther).

We live in dangerous times indeed and perhaps the stakes have never been higher. Hence, the aggressive shadowboxing, etc. ... Imagine if Kerry got in? (..sorry to scare anyone). God Bless GW!

No, this is not a game, and our National Sovereignty is also "not a game", it is our American Way of Life, as is our most excellent Constitution and the Amendments thereto and this is deadly serious business. I am starting to think that many in the U.S. honestly would feel "more at home" in Beijing or Moscow.....

I'm getting sick of all this Monkey Business. It never ends, does it?


68 posted on 03/09/2005 10:17:42 PM PST by Bald Eagle777 (No more high-tech Exports to China. None. The Clinton years were a total DISASTER.)
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To: All

I am always encouraged when a member of the Clinton administration criticizes the Bush administration. He must be doing the right thing!


69 posted on 03/09/2005 10:19:44 PM PST by msjhall
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To: neverdem
"The State of Texas believes no international court supersedes the laws of Texas or the laws of the United States," Mr. Strickland said. "We respectfully believe the executive determination exceeds the constitutional bounds for federal authority."

I believe that too!

70 posted on 03/09/2005 10:19:53 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Justice League it is! I'm having fun just picturing this!


71 posted on 03/09/2005 10:24:25 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Looking for a new tagline........old one annoyed me)
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To: neverdem

Another nail in the multilateral coffin. Conservatives won the election at home, why would they hand back control to foreign leftists.


72 posted on 03/09/2005 10:26:00 PM PST by dervish (Nihilism is dead)
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To: thoughtomator

Isn't this quote more telling than anything else?

"Spiro was awarded an Open Society Institute/Soros Foundation fellowship to study the law of American citizenship in..."


73 posted on 03/09/2005 10:26:43 PM PST by politicalwit (Republican and Democrats are across the aisle but sleep in the same bed.)
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To: neverdem; All

"U.S. Says It Has Withdrawn From World Judicial Body"


I guess this would be sort of a "Judicious Interruptus".


74 posted on 03/09/2005 10:30:21 PM PST by shibumi (As we run from the day, To a strange night of stone.)
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To: neverdem

It's about time.

Thanks for the ping.


75 posted on 03/09/2005 10:31:23 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

thanks for the post... he doesn't have much of a resume...


76 posted on 03/09/2005 10:31:45 PM PST by Mightylucky
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To: potlatch; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; ntnychik; DoughtyOne


outsourcing sovereignty/justice ping

"Contempt Of World Court"


77 posted on 03/09/2005 10:36:21 PM PST by devolve ( My-WWII-Musical-Tribute: http://pro.lookingat.us/WWII.html http://pro.lookingat.us/DeadZone.html)
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To: neverdem

Excellent! Now on to withdrawing from the UN.


78 posted on 03/09/2005 10:42:26 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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To: CAluvdubya
It actually sounds like a pretty good comic book, too.

Uncle Sam, John Bull, and Australian and Polish national heroes wouldn't be a bad idea...Tadeusz Kosciuszko and Banjo Patterson spring to mind. We could have an Italian hero sort of like Julian Basheer on DS9, one you're always expecting will run or stab the other heroes in the back (Machiavelli, perhaps?), and a few smaller heroes for the remaining allies, probably some that are always looking for money or help with minor things... 8)

79 posted on 03/09/2005 10:45:27 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: neverdem

bttt


80 posted on 03/09/2005 10:47:15 PM PST by lainde ( ...We are NOT European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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