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Nice jeans. But should you really wear them to the opera?
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 3/9/05 | Kim Campell

Posted on 03/09/2005 9:47:25 AM PST by qam1

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To: Tamar1973
That's just WEIRD !

If you buy a hat at Saks,they put your purchase in a hat box.

When I had the hat I wore to my daughter's wedding made (I used an atelier,so that's different),they packed it in a hat box,as they did with her wreath and veil.

But,the last hat I bought,got stuffed into a shopping bag. It wasn't a "good" hat and I bout it when I was on vacation,the store was NOT a department store,so I just figured that's why they used a shopping bag.

681 posted on 03/11/2005 2:53:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: durasell
Oh,now you've broken my heart. :-(

What about PREXIES,does that still exist anywhere in N.Y.C. ?

682 posted on 03/11/2005 2:56:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Tamar1973
A few years ago I attended a wedding here in the US - although the bride and groom were both Scottish.

Only two people at the wedding wore hats - me and the piper!

The bride's father is a minister and even his wife did not wear a hat.

683 posted on 03/11/2005 3:01:14 PM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: nopardons
But,the last hat I bought,got stuffed into a shopping bag.

That's where my beautiful hat at Nordstroms was destined until I decided to wear it.

684 posted on 03/11/2005 3:47:33 PM PST by Tamar1973 (The path to conservative brilliance starts at Free Republic!)
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To: Churchillspirit
The bride's father is a minister and even his wife did not wear a hat.

Our pastor's wife doesn't wear a hat, either. I am one of the few Gen X women who will cover her head in church.

685 posted on 03/11/2005 3:53:21 PM PST by Tamar1973 (The path to conservative brilliance starts at Free Republic!)
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To: Tamar1973
Well, mine was just an everyday hat,not anything that was all that big a deal, and I really didn't care now it was packed.It's not as though it was one of my Frank Olive's or a made to order one,after all.

OTOH,I really am surprised that that's what happened to you at Nordstroms.

686 posted on 03/11/2005 5:07:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
OTOH,I really am surprised that that's what happened to you at Nordstroms.

This was in San Francisco, where people who dress with a bit of class are looked down upon as being "elitist" and "arrogant".

687 posted on 03/11/2005 5:11:53 PM PST by Tamar1973 (The path to conservative brilliance starts at Free Republic!)
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To: Tamar1973

Where I go to, we own the building but it started in a small room about 10+ years ago. WE already are getting to big for the building we bought two years ago and are looking into expansion already.


688 posted on 03/11/2005 6:57:43 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: R. Scott
I used to hate wearing a suit and tie – until I rebelled against the Kerryites and their usual made of dress. Until a few months before the election I usually wore jeans...

Why would you let those scum define you? Even in rebellion, you're still allowing them to dictate your life. You need to live your life *without reference* to them, pro- or con-.

My hair was past my shoulders

Mine still is.

I was accused of being a Hanoi John supporter!

Never happened to me. Perhaps you are not outspoken enough. A pro-gun baseball cap will dispel such nonsense. And quit puttin' sunscreen on your neck! ;-)

I bought a few shirts that actually fit my neck, ties, slacks and sports jackets...with a proper fitting collar the necktie doesn’t strangle me.

Please read my WHOLE post... no never mind, I will excerpt:

"The medical term for it is "tactile defensiveness"... "tactile hypersensitivity" would be a more accurate term for it....clothes that are made of certain fabrics are just torment to wear, even if they "fit" perfectly.

In other words, it's not the fit around the collar or anywhere else, it's the material and sometimes the weave. Some clothes almost feel like sandpaper, and some (ie silk) "tickle" the whole day. The only way I can stay sane and focus on my work (or the sermon, or the concert) is to wear clothes that I can "forget" I have on -- broken-in jeans, flannels, etc -- with the labels cut out of course). Formal clothes bug me about as much as if, for example, I had a long-awned weed seed in my boxer shorts that kept poking at me all day. And this condition is rather common.

689 posted on 03/11/2005 7:54:36 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Xenalyte
The Bible isn't an etiquette manual. That's why God gave us ladies surnamed Post, Baldridge, and Vanderbilt. (Not to mention the incomparable Judith Martin.)

Never heard of them. I suspect it would be impossible for me follow their advice anyway, even if I wanted to -- see post 514

690 posted on 03/11/2005 8:01:48 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Modernman
However someone choosing to wear jeans, rather than more dressy clothes to church is making a distinct decision to show less respect to the situation

Not mecessarily... see post 514. Many of these people (and there are indeed many of us, a lot more than you probably realize), would find a formal dress code an all-but-unbearable stumbling block if it were a "requirement" of faith.

Fortunately, in the Bible, it is NOT. In fact, the Old Testament priests were commanded, "They shall not wear anything that causeth sweat!" -- which seems to rule out coat and tie.

Of course, basic modesty must be upheld (that IS a biblical requirement), and cleanliness, as well, but not "formality", especially uncomfortable formality (and remember that a lot of things that are "comfortable" for you, are NOT comfortable for others)

691 posted on 03/11/2005 8:14:53 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: nopardons

Prexies?

You've come up with one that I don't know.

Costello's bar is gone -- hanging over the bar was a broken cane that belonged to John O'Hara and broke by Hemingway.


692 posted on 03/11/2005 9:22:21 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
It was a GREAT hamburger place. Prexies...the Hamburger with knowledge and an education from college;or something like that. Oh well,it was probably long gone by the time you got to Manhattan.

*sigh*

693 posted on 03/11/2005 10:04:24 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I've stopped mourning the specific places. The people -- the "types" still exist and frequent different venues. There will always be the place where the midwestern girl just off the bus to be a broadway dancer can get a job waitressing. Every guy in NYC will forever have a place where he takes a first date after a movie. There will always be the place were dirty deals are made in a back booth at 3 a.m. And there will always be the place where stand up comics go for a burger after they finish their set at a club.


694 posted on 03/11/2005 10:12:02 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
There are NO replacements for the Circus restaurant in Wannamakers,the Magnolia restaurant in B.Altman's,and the last time I was in the restaurant in Lord&Taylor's,it was so changed,it wasn't worth the bother. Now considering the fact that the grandmothers and mothers of my family have taken their children to eat in those places for generations and I won't be able to do so with any future grandchild,I DO mourn their loss.

I also went into deep mourning when DePinna's and Best&Co. and Franklin Simmon and Bonwits and Arnold Constable and B.Altman's closed. :-(

695 posted on 03/11/2005 10:24:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Saks still has a very nice restaurant. And there are other similar places. Humor nature doesn't change and there will always be establishments to cater to it.

But in truth, I doubt whether the children taken on those outings enjoyed them very much -- napkin on your lap please; we do not eat with our arms flying over the table like chimps in the jungle; smaller bites and, please, take a moment to chew properly; what you really want is creme broule, which is very different from pudding. No, we do not signal the waiter with our hands...




696 posted on 03/11/2005 10:55:21 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

humor = human (my fingers aren't working correctly)


697 posted on 03/11/2005 10:56:04 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
Saks is okay but they don't really have a "kid friendly" menu.

Hey..........I LOVED going to the Circus restaurant in Wannamakers! It was all done up like a circus tent and a clown strolled by playing an accordion,throughout the lunch hours.

And the restaurant in Altmans was also not only "kid friendly", but gave out very nice toys too;which varied,depending on the season. When my daughter was little she got a pail and shovel and sand molds with her lunch there and she did NOT behave anything at all like your imaginary,only taken to a McDonalds or such, brat kid and neither did I when I was little.

Since children should be raised to have good table manners at home and know how to behave in a nice restaurant,and all of that parody you posted is beyond stupid ! FYI...creme brule was NEVER served in any of the places I mentioned and so what if it had been? My daughter has always LOVED it.

698 posted on 03/11/2005 11:08:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

There was Rupplemyers (sp?) by the St. Moritz (sp?), though I think that closed down a couple of years ago.

The world you describe exists in NYC in such a limited version today, even on the upper east side. Grandmothers taking their grandchildren for an afternoon of shopping are looking at boutiques along Madison and Third. They're eating in Starbucks and diners.


699 posted on 03/11/2005 11:19:05 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
Rumplemyers was ONLY for desserts.

And eating (?) at a Starbucks (they serve lunches?) isn't the same thing at all. Diners? There are now DINERS on Madison and/or Third Ave.?

No,what I mourn is a lost world and I know it. About the ONLY still standing landmark,that my great grandmother,grandmother,mother, my daughter and I will be able to share with a future grandchild of mine,is a ride on the merrygoround in Central Park;I fear.

700 posted on 03/11/2005 11:26:46 PM PST by nopardons
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