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In the Fight Against Terrorism, Some Rights Must Be Repealed - (Hunh? Disarm us to fight terror?)
INSTITUTE FOR SOCIAL POLICY UNDERSTANDING ^ | MARCH 4, 2005 | JUNAID M. AFEEF

Posted on 03/08/2005 8:05:19 PM PST by freeholland

The newly appointed CIA Director Porter Goss, believes that terrorists may bring urban warfare techniques learned in Iraq to our homeland. If he is right, we could have a whole new war on our hands. The prospect is indeed scary.

The idea of terrorist cells operating clandestinely in the United States, quietly amassing handguns and assault rifles, and planning suicide shooting rampages in our malls, is right out of Tom Clancy’s most recent novel. If not for the fact that the 9/11 attacks were also foreshadowed in a Clancy novel, I would have given the idea no further thought.

However, rather than facing this potential threat publicly, the Bush administration is only focused on terrorist attacks involving missiles, nuclear devices and biological weapons. Stopping terrorists with WMDs is a good thing, but what about the more immediate threat posed by terrorists with guns? The potential threat of terrorist attacks using guns is far more likely than any of these other scenarios.

This leads to a bigger policy issue. In the post 9/11 world where supposedly “everything has changed,” perhaps it is time for Americans to reconsider the value of public gun ownership.

The idea of public gun ownership simply does not make sense anymore. The right to bear arms, as enumerated in the Second Amendment, was meant for the maintenance of a “well-regulated militia.” At the time the amendment was adopted, standing armies were viewed with a great deal of suspicion, and therefore, gun-owning individuals were seen as a protection mechanism for the public. These gun owners were also seen as guardians of the republic against the tyranny of the rulers. The framers of the Constitution saw the right to bear and use arms as a check against an unruly government. That state of affairs no longer exists.

Today, only a handful of citizens outside of neo-nazi and white supremacist goups view gun ownership as a means of keeping the government in check. Even those citizens who continue to maintain such antiquated views must face the reality that the United States’ armed forces are too large and too powerful for the citizenry to make much difference. Quite frankly, the idea of the citizenry rising up against the U.S. government with their handguns and assault rifles, and facing the military with these personal arms is absurd. The Branch Davidian tragedy at Waco, Texas, was one such futile attempt.

The more important consideration is public safety. It is no longer safe for the public to carry guns. Gun violence is increasingly widespread in the United States. According to the DOJ/FBI’s Crime In The United States: 2003 report, 45,197 people in the United States were murdered with guns between 1999 and 2003. That averages out to more than 9,000 people murdered per year. Nearly three times the number of lives lost in the tragic 9/11 attacks are murdered annually as a direct result of guns.

Examples of wanton violence are all around. One particularly heinous incident of gun violence occurred in 1998 when former Aryan Nation member Buford Furrow shot and wounded three young boys, a teenage girl and a receptionist at the North Valley Jewish Community Center in Los Angeles and then shot and killed a Filipino-American postal worker.

Another occurred in July 1999 when white supremacist Benjamin Nathaniel Smith, a member of the World Church of the Creator, went on a weekend shooting spree, targeting Blacks, Jews and Asians. By the time Smith was done he had wounded six Orthodox Jews returning from services, and killed one African-American and one Korean-American.

Just recently, in Ulster, NY, a 24 year old man carrying a Hesse Arms Model 47, an AK-47 clone assault rifle, randomly shot people in a local mall. While the Justice Department did not label this murder a terrorist attack, all the signs were there. The Ulster, New York shooting is an ominous warning of what lies ahead. Terrorism can be a homegrown act committed by anyone with a gun and is not unique to a “Middle Eastern-looking man with a bomb.” As long as the public is allowed to own guns, the threat of similar terrorist attacks remains real.

The idea of curtailing rights in the name of homeland security does not seem implausible given the current state of civil liberties in the United States. The war on terror has already taken an enormous toll on the First, Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments, and thus far, very few Americans have objected. In light of this precedence, it seems reasonable that scaling back or even repealing the right to bear arms would be an easy task.

In fact, it will be a very difficult task. So far the civil liberties curtailment has affected generally disenfranchised groups such as immigrants, people of color and religious minorities. An assault on the Second Amendment will impact a much more powerful constituency.

According to the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, in 2002 41 percent of American households owned at least one gun. According to these same statistics, 50 percent of the owners were male, 43 percent were white and 48 percent were Republican. More than 50 percent of the gun owners were college educated and earned more than $50,000 per year. Regrettably, these folks are going to marshal their considerable resources to protect their special interest.

This is a shame. Instead of laying waste to the civil rights and civil liberties that are at the core of free society, and rather than squandering precious time and money on amending the U.S. Constitution for such things as “preserving marriage between a man and woman,” the nation ought to focus its attention on the havoc guns cause in society and debate the merits of gun ownership in this era of terrorism.

So long as guns remain available to the general public, there will always be the threat of terrorists walking into a crowded restaurant, a busy coffee shop or a packed movie theater and opening fire upon unsuspecting civilians.

The Second Amendment is not worth such risks.

Junaid M. Afeef is a Research Associate at the Institute for Social Policy & Understanding. His articles are available at http://www.ispu.us.

He can be reached at junaid.afeef@gmail.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: freeholland
This bullshit and tripe is not even worthy of my time.

All I have to say is that I'm not a white supremacist or a nazi, and that I will not give up my firearms. It won't be from my cold dead hands. It just flat out won't happen. Period, end of story.

61 posted on 03/08/2005 9:26:22 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (Cop: "I'm the only one in this room professional enough that I know to carry this Glock 40"...BOOM!)
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To: Electrowoman

I like the way you think.


62 posted on 03/08/2005 9:35:46 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

It should be worthy of your time in that it should be exposed for what it is.
Advance invasin prep.
It should be exposed for that not ingored.
If the left's connection with Hanoi had been more exposed during the VN conflict then perhaps the effect could have been mitigated.
They realise that armed citizens are what they fear and are beginning their attack.
The Chinese are doung the same thing with Taiwan with the constant effort to surround and isolate the island with small moves that add up.
Tsun Szu said to win by preventing your opponent from firing a shot is better than war.
This is a tactic of war.


63 posted on 03/08/2005 9:44:48 PM PST by chuckwalla
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To: freeholland

I never did understand that logic. You are in imminent danger, chaos is about to break loose in your midst, so give us your guns to assure that you can't protect yourself.
Guns don't cause havoc. Lawless people using guns cause havoc. Good people using guns have at least a chance of mitigating havoc, and there are more good people than bad.


65 posted on 03/08/2005 10:07:15 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: freeholland
Quite frankly, the idea of the citizenry rising up against the U.S. government with their handguns and assault rifles, and facing the military with these personal arms is absurd. The Branch Davidian tragedy at Waco, Texas, was one such futile attempt.

And don't forget the futile attempt by the people at the Alamo to rise up against their government armed as they were with just their handguns, rifles, and Bowie knives. There's no way they could stand up to the might of the Imperial Mexican Army. How dare they think their actions could influence the destiny of a thing called "Texas" since they all were killed there.

66 posted on 03/08/2005 10:13:47 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Desron13
I wonder what this moron thinks would happen to the mighty US military if even one fifth of the American people rose up and seized control of or destroyed it's support base?

He probably doesn't realize which side the military would be on. If something were to happen that would cause insurrection on that large a scale, it's quite possible that the military's artillery would be directed down upon Washington, Berkeley, San Francisco, and so forth rather than going door-to-door confiscating people's weapons.

67 posted on 03/08/2005 10:22:33 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: El Gato
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68 posted on 03/08/2005 10:28:12 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: freeholland
How does this grab you? San Francisco is trying to pass a law that all private ownership of handguns be abolished. It says that all people will be safer.
69 posted on 03/08/2005 10:30:19 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: freeholland
time for Americans to reconsider the value of public gun ownership.

I oppose public ownership of guns. All guns should be in private hands.

70 posted on 03/08/2005 10:46:15 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: freeholland
I call BS on the author of the piece.

If some looney Mohammedan cuts loose with a pistol in the mall, I'm not only hoping for an armed Citizen to take him out, I'm COUNTING on it.

71 posted on 03/08/2005 10:46:28 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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To: Travis McGee
Yeah, man. I read the tripe spewed by the author, and immediately thought of your book.

And I have to say that the excepts from your latest scared the living hell out of me. But I can't wait to read what Rayna does to screw those turd world Marxist b@stards over!

Ever read any of the "Draka" novels by Steve Stirling? Scary, scary alternate history stuff, man. "Take history, and make it worse." (And hence, my screen name heh heh)

72 posted on 03/08/2005 10:55:29 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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To: freeholland
...it seems reasonable that scaling back or even repealing the right to bear arms would be an easy task.
In fact, it will be a very difficult task.

Indeed.

73 posted on 03/08/2005 11:02:15 PM PST by absalom01
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To: freeholland

The answer to the author of this breathtakingly ignorant piece is simply "no." When one is threatened by people with guns the appropriate response is decidedly not to voluntarily give up one's own means of self-defense. It's to shoot back. And we do that. And quite frankly, we do it quite a bit better than those who threaten us. And we're going to continue to do that.


74 posted on 03/08/2005 11:04:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: chuckwalla

Maybe I wasn't the only one who noticed that most of the states with extensive civillian port facillities have onerous gun laws..CA, NY, NJ, MD, to name the first to come to mind. I always thought this was part of Bubba's master plan to open us to invasion by the Chinese....


75 posted on 03/08/2005 11:07:50 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (Invest in semi-precious metal--BLOAT!)
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To: Desron13
I wonder what this moron thinks would happen to the mighty US military if even one fifth of the American people rose up and seized control of or destroyed it's support base?

If it came down to that, most of them would join us. Hell, most of them ARE us. Consider that the backbone of the military consists of my Scots-Irish Southern and Midwestern cousins.

Liberal sissies go to the academic ivory tower, and rely on people like us to defend them from the barbarians. And what thanks do we get for our sacrifices? We get labeled as genocidal baby killers.

So to hell with them.

76 posted on 03/08/2005 11:08:46 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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To: AF68
In other lands throughout history, Mr. Afeef's proposal to disarm the citizenry during wartime would have been greeted with great hostility and gotten him a swift ticket to eternity for being in league with the enemy.

LMOA Hell yeah! Even the thrice-damned and cursed Soviets broke out arms for the citizens during WW2 to fight the Nazi horde.

77 posted on 03/08/2005 11:13:51 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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To: chuckwalla
Tsun Szu said to win by preventing your opponent from firing a shot is better than war. This is a tactic of war.

Worth repeating.

78 posted on 03/08/2005 11:17:08 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: stylin19a
50 percent of owners were NOT male, 57 percent were NOT white, 52 percent were NOT Republican.

What's this moron's point ?

I caught that, too. I've recently seen articles that use a 25-percentile to justify their point. Have these people no shame?

79 posted on 03/08/2005 11:18:06 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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To: chuckwalla
The Chinese are doung the same thing with Taiwan with the constant effort to surround and isolate the island with small moves that add up.

And that's why "someone" should covertly provide the government in Taipei with a few nuclear-tipped "gifts" to wave in front of the ChiComs.

80 posted on 03/08/2005 11:20:25 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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