Posted on 03/08/2005 1:36:13 PM PST by paltz
Islam is known as the second largest religion. The very fact that 1.2 billion people call themselves Muslims vests Islam with the mantel of legitimacy and confirms the claim that it is a religion. But is it?
Can 1.2 billion people be wrong? Well, in logic we have something called "argumentum ad numerum". It states that something is true if a lot of people believe in it. But argumentum ad numerum is a logical fallacy. Truth cannot be established by the consensus of the majority. In fact many arguments have been proven to be false, even though everyone in the world once accepted them as true. For example, not until a few centuries ago everyone believed that the Earth is flat and is at the centre of the universe. Despite that common belief both geocentricity and the idea of the flat Earth were false. A false belief does not become true even if everyone thinks they are true.
Therefore, not only 1.2 billion people, but the entire mankind can be wrong. As Bertrand Russell said: The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible. (Source)
After shattering the myth of argumentum ad numerum, let us put Islam under scrutiny and see whether it is a religion or a cult.
The following is a description of what cult is:
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All these traits are present in Islam.
In Yathrib he banished and killed the Jews who did not believe in him, thus eliminating the chance of his followers coming in contact with outsiders and being influenced by anyone. In this way he exerted absolute control over the lives and the minds of his followers. Jim Jones did the same. He called his town "Jonestown". Muhammad changed the name of Yathirb to Madinatul Nabi (Prophets Town)
Based on the above, Islam is a cult. It is the biggest and the most successful cult. It practically reunites every feature of cult. Other cults may not be cultic in some of the above points. But Islam is cultic in every way and it would be a gross mistake to number it among religions just because 1.2 billion benighted people call themselves Muslims.
Islam - the world's largest cult?
by Kent Philpott
Islam is rarely critiqued by journalists because it can be dangerous to do so. This has been less true since 11 September 2001 because people are interested in Islam and are searching for answers.
However, it is still risky to write anything that may impugn Islam and especially the founder, Mohammed. This is one reason why I call Islam a cult. Muslims often treat opponents with something less than kindness as they seek to defend the honour of Allah.
What is a cult?
My working definition of a cult is non-theological. Traditionally, Christians apply the term to Bible-based groups that have departed significantly from the mainstream and historical creeds.
Such cults frequently deny the full deity and humanity of Jesus; his atoning work on the cross; his bodily resurrection; and his return at the end of the age to judge the living and the dead.
However, I will employ a secular definition of a cult as any group that uses psychological or sociological techniques to recruit, motivate, and retain adherents.
Cults are not necessarily religious; they may be political, commercial, psychological, or sociological in nature. They may be large or small, named or unnamed, known or unknown.
Cults may have a leader or be without a leader. The common feature is the use of control mechanisms that violate the individuality of participants.
Is Islam cultic?
Many would deny that Islam has the characteristics of a cult. But why is Islam not a cult when in many Muslim-dominated countries it is a capital offence to hand Muslims a Bible or explain Christianity (or any other religion) to them?
Saudi Arabia, the guardian of Islams most holy shrines at Mecca and Medina, is a highly restricted society where Christians are not allowed any public expression of their faith.
Why is Islam not a cult when it is virtually impossible for a Muslim to leave the religion, even if he merely wishes to become an atheist or agnostic?
Why is Islam not a cult when Muslim warriors force their religion on people? The history of Islam is full of that kind of proselytisation.
Yes, I know the Roman Catholic Church has in the past forced pagans to adopt Catholicism. However that body has acknowledged that it was wrong-headed and anti-Christian to do so.
As a Baptist, I can say that in 500 years of our history, if we have been true to our principles, we have not engaged in such tactics and neither have any of the traditional Evangelical, Protestant denominations.
Satanic Verses
A vivid illustration of the cultic nature of Islam is the case of the novelist Salman Rushdie. Rushdie had a death contract issued against him for writing his book The Satanic Verses. Yet novelists, journalists, commentators, filmmakers, and television producers routinely blaspheme the God of Christianity without reprisal.
Of course, the fatwah against Salman Rushdie is blamed on fundamentalists and extremists, while most Muslims who live in Western countries are peace-loving citizens.
But the loyalty inculcated by Islam runs deeper than allegiance to any nation. Muslims will change political affiliations if needed, but their commitment to the defence of Islam easily becomes fanatical.
A contrast
How insecure and weak must Islam be when Muslims threaten those who oppose it with violence rather than use reasoned defence. Such paranoid behaviour renders Islam resistant to self-evaluation and exposes its internal deficiencies.
Biblical Christianity thrives in a free, pluralistic, and democratic society. It neither needs nor benefits from the support of a nation state. By contrast, Islamic control in many countries is totalitarian, dictatorial, and oppressive.
In countries ruled by Sharia (Islamic law), minor infractions may be punished by the loss of a hand, a foot, or life itself. Muslim women have been stoned to death for inadvertently exposing an ankle or forearm in public. The much touted mercy of Islam is hard to detect.
Disillusionment with the religion simmers under the surface in Islamic societies. Muslim immigrants to Western countries, if allowed to do so, either moderate or abandon Islam altogether. Others go through the religious motions, but their hearts are not in it.
The cost of defection
Recently there was a rallying to the cause as many Muslims believed the war against terrorism is between Christian America and Islam. But many Muslims would prefer to be free of such influences if they could.
Of course, Muslim clerics in the West realise this and do not hesitate to isolate their constituents from non-Muslim influence. Isolation is a typical cultic mechanism defections are treated most seriously.
In lands dominated by Islam, the rule is once a Muslim, always a Muslim. Like the Mafia, Islam is difficult to leave, and any who defect may do so at a great price.
Most cults ostracize defecting people, cutting them off from family, friends, and even employment. Muslims sometimes assassinate people who leave their religion. How very cultic!
World rule
Cults are dangerous they control and manipulate those under their sway. Islamic leaders may issue a declaration (fatwah) or call for a holy war (jihad). Muslims are expected to obey these calls despite their individual feelings. As with the fatwah against Rushdie, Muslems remained under a theoretical obligation to kill him even though restrained from doing so by the law of the land.
If Islam were not so fractured into sects and splinter movements, the non-Muslim world would face a more serious enemy than it does today. Islam sanctions the murder of infidels and, of course, I am one and so is anyone who is not a Muslim.
It is no secret that Islams goal is world rule. This is not some right-wing conspiracy theory; it is the stated aim of Islam.
On the other hand, while Christians seek to share the Good News of Christ world-wide, they are not intent on forcing people to accept Christianity, much less eliminating those who reject the message.
Spiritual process
Conversion to Christ is a spiritual process, not the recitation of a formula like: There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet. Biblical Christianity is about grace, which is Gods gift of faith and forgiveness.
Christianity is grounded both in the sacrifice Jesus offered for sin on the cross, and upon his resurrection which declares those for whom he died justified. No one becomes a Christian on the basis of their works or actions.
Rather, conversion is something God brings about. This is why the New Testament uses the term new birth to describe it (see John 3:1-15). Humans cannot control their physical birth, and the new (spiritual) birth is the same. It lies in Gods power to bring about, not mans. No public or private declaration will ever make a Christian out of anyone.
Revised religion
Islam is classed with those religious groups that have revised Christianity. Some of these are: The Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons), Jehovahs Witnesses, and the Unification Church (Moonies).
In all these groups, including Islam, Jesus is acknowledged and honoured as a prophet. He may even be worshipped to some degree. Yet many of Jesus teachings are declared to be incomplete and outdated. They must therefore be replaced or superseded by the teachings of (insert name of group or prophet).
The Christianity Mohammed knew in the sixth and seventh centuries in the Arabian Peninsula was far different from New Testament Christianity it had radically deteriorated.
Observing the deficiencies in Judaism and this degenerate Christianity, Mohammed replaced them with his own concepts. This is understandable. The result, however, is not an improvement; it is simply another failed revisionist effort.
Downgrade
It is patronising, too, for Islam to say it respects Jesus as a prophet while denying or altering what he said about himself and what the New Testament writers said concerning him. I am thinking of such Scriptures as John 1:1-3 and Colossians 1:15-20 among many others.
Of course, the Mormons, Jehovahs Witnesses, and Moonies do the same. Revisionist cults must downgrade Jesus so that the new, improved prophet (or truth) can be presented as a replacement.
If Jesus is God in the flesh, Emmanuel, as the Christian Scripture proclaims; and if Jesus is the Messiah prophesied by the great Hebrew prophets; and if Jesus is the only Lord and Saviour who will return to judge the living and the dead; then it is impossible to replace him.
Revelation
The Quran declares that the Bible, Old and New Testaments, is a revelation from God. But it then proceeds to reject the clear message of the Bible! If the Bible is accurate about Jesus, there is no need for the Quran or Mohammed.
So, was Mohammed using flattery, or attempting to patronise Christians, when he seems to honour Jesus? Or did he simply not understand?
Christians reject the belief that Mohammed is the prophet of God. Christians reject the Quran as a revelation from God. At least this is an honest position, innocent of any effort to mislead, flatter, confuse, or patronise.
Basic difference between Christianity and Islam...
Allah demands that you give your life (while killing infidels, even better) for salvation.
The Christian God gave His Son's life for your salvation.
Allahu FUBAR
My question to all of Islam: WHAT DO YOU FEEL?
>>>Islam is known as the second largest religion. Can 1.2 billion people be wrong?<<<
"Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide, and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter by it." Matt.7:13
And there is this warning...
"Beware of the FALSE prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves" Matt 7:15
The number of followers in no way determines its authenticity.
. Still discussing some things with RS over at the other thread.
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I wish you luck in that endeavor.
Until it's modified HEAVILY...I vote for "TERRORIST ORGANIZATION"
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Roger that. And any group that isolates new converts from friends and family, as in the way of islam, is a CULT as well.
Nope
Blaspheming demon-spawn...
Not necessarily doomed to die...just to burn in hell for eternity....
If there really is only one God...then none of these earthly originated religions/cults, really matters...they are nothing more than a bunch of people believing in something which no one can prove or disprove.
I believe it's neither.
Rather it is a amalgam of killers and their sycophants who adhere strictly (unless cavorting the day before in stip joints and whorehouses in the nation they intend to destroy part of the following day) to the scribblings of a perverted madman.
Any religion whose founder they worship and revere and die for at all ages and are promised 72 young virgins to deflower is inherently evil and filthy!
Yes, a false religion.
Excellent, b!
Hillarious, isn't it? They actually believe that crap, A.
"Be careful with this. IMO, this could apply to some of the Christian denominations too."
You are correct.
Ali traded in islam for Humanism.
I have read quite a bit of his stuff on Humanist websites.
When he asks "islam: Cult or Religion?", he is winking at some of his readers who are in the know about his not believing in God...only the human as god.
We must not be taken in by him just because the things he writes about islam are true....he is very negative concerning Christians; actually all religions.
Thanks for the ping, TexasCowboy!
"Still discussing some things with RS over at the other thread."
Thanks for keeping the fella distracted. He will be over soon enough!
Well folks, I tried to reason with RS, but ended up wasting my time.
Oh well.
For the life of me, I cannot understand anyone who does not see islam for what it really is. Willful ignorance and blindness? A deep-rooted hate of Christians and Christianity? I don't get it.
Jesus teach us to love our enemies and I will continue to try to reach out to those who seem open or even curious about Christ Jesus. However, make no mistake, I'll not end up like that poor Coptic family in NJ. Any threats to my safety will be eliminated with extreme prejudice.
Jesus teach us to love our enemies and I will continue to try to reach out to those who seem open or even curious about Christ Jesus. However, make no mistake, I'll not end up like that poor Coptic family in NJ. Any threats to my safety will be eliminated with extreme prejudice.
Extreme prejudice is what ole RS is constantly accusing of of displaying toward islam
Ironic is it not that extreme prejudice is the only act that will save us infidels when push comes to shove?
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